[Clark_Kent]

Well, that ended rather quickly for a lot of folks. Here's the press release for those interested.

https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...e-order-may-11

[Clark_Kent]

Originally Posted by Ricochet48

Officially a joke. $50,800 MSRP ($52K delivered). It's literally $100 cheaper than a M240i xDrive. I think the extra $100 is worth it for 100 more hp and AWD haha.

All the nostalgia in the world from my DC5 can't blind me enough to think that's a good deal. I assumed the cost cutting with no sunroof, manual passenger seats, no usb in the rear, etc. was to get it to $48K.

Now any of these I see I will laugh at. Back in the market for a Thundernight B58 in a few years. Forget the practicality, manual, and better sound system in the ITS. Just not worth $52K.

This isn't surprising, or at least it shouldn't be. I knew the ITS would be >$50K (See Post #255). A lot of folks anchored to ~$48K. Why would they price that car within a few thousand dollars of the CTR? You know Acura is owned by Honda, right? With pricing now confirmed this car is no longer a "better version" than the CTR.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by Ricochet48

That they do... but the internet seems very pissed on the Integra forums and fb group thus far. Sidenote, it's an Integra Type S not R. Acura is keeping the S while Honda the R (since 2001).

Wonder if this pumps up the price of my 2006 RSX Type S with a sunroof and just 50k miles haha.

I'm fully back on the BMW train, choo choooo.

Sure the M240i will have a higher maintenance cost, but to me it's actually more practical with a ZF8 in city traffic (and SO, friends, family can drive), AWD for the snow, auto parallel parking, remote start, sunroof, and I can still fit my bike in the rear with the front wheel off.

Adios Acura!

Assuming you are buying, the ITS will more than likely be worth quite a bit more in a few years vs an M240i. So cost of ownership delta quickly favors the ITS (just look at the FK8 CTR vs a comparable year F22 M240i). Don't just look at initial pricing.

[Arcades]

52k for a slightly suped Civic Type R? With dealers probably shoving ADM on top of that...

Yeah hell no.

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

This isn't surprising, or at least it shouldn't be. I knew the ITS would be >$50K (See Post #255). A lot of folks anchored to ~$48K. Why would they price that car within a few thousand dollars of the CTR? You know Acura is owned by Honda, right? With pricing now confirmed this car is no longer a "better version" than the CTR.

$48k v $52k not really much difference for a new car. If you were in at 48k, you are in at 52k. So out over 4k? Never wanted the car or could never afford it anyway IMO. (Not directing this at anyone. Speaking in general)

$48k or 52k for this thing is LOL IMO

[Ricochet48]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

$48k v $52k not really much difference for a new car. If you were in at 48k, you are in at 52k. So out over 4k? Never wanted the car or could never afford it anyway IMO. (Not directing this at anyone. Speaking in general)

$48k or 52k for this thing is LOL IMO

Nah I was in at $48K and out at $52K. That's a material difference.

I'd rather get a CPO M240i xDrive. Will be better in Chicago anyways.

[Ricochet48]

Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

This isn't surprising, or at least it shouldn't be. I knew the ITS would be >$50K (See Post #255). A lot of folks anchored to ~$48K. Why would they price that car within a few thousand dollars of the CTR? You know Acura is owned by Honda, right? With pricing now confirmed this car is no longer a "better version" than the CTR.

You called it.

I assumed $4K as the difference was mostly in the sound system and badging. The seats are more luxury, but not as sporty (likely a wash price-wise) and the lack of spoiler should have saved $. So $4K seemed reasonable... $7K is laughable.

I have come to my senses. My friends laughed I was considering a FWD Civic for $48K anyways. My not 18 anymore when I bought my glorified Civic for $22,600 half a lifetime ago haha. Back to adult BMW land as noted. Thundernight FTW.

[Clark_Kent]

Originally Posted by Ricochet48

You called it.

I assumed $4K as the difference was mostly in the sound system and badging. The seats are more luxury, but not as sporty (likely a wash price-wise) and the lack of spoiler should have saved $. So $4K seemed reasonable... $7K is laughable.

I have come to my senses. My friends laughed I was considering a FWD Civic for $48K anyways. My not 18 anymore when I bought my glorified Civic for $22,600 half a lifetime ago haha. Back to adult BMW land as noted. Thundernight FTW.

Ha, I remember I paid $23,500 for my RSX Type S almost 18 years ago. Now that I think about it, that was bargain for what you got! Gone are the days I suppose.

To Donatello. 's point, is $4K that big of a deal on a new car? If you really want the car, does $4K completely turn you off? It's hard for me to say since I'm not in that position but I feel like I would still buy it if I were all in from the beginning.

[Mingwan]

4k is not large amount in a 50k price range, but I think at 48k for a car like this, you’ve already done a lot of bargaining with yourself to accept the price tag. An extra 4k is probably hard to stomach when you subconsciously know you’re getting ripped off paying 48k to begin with.

Pass. You can find a good condition DC5 for 15k. Would rather have that.

[Mingwan]

Probably 90% of people that put a deposit on the ITS.

[Clark_Kent]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

$48k v $52k not really much difference for a new car. If you were in at 48k, you are in at 52k. So out over 4k? Never wanted the car or could never afford it anyway IMO. (Not directing this at anyone. Speaking in general)

$48k or 52k for this thing is LOL IMO

This is spot on. I find that everyone is interested until it's time to pay. The $4k delta is the difference of $64 per month on a 72 month loan at 5.04%. Easy to say when it's not my money but this seems like a nominal sum to give up on a car that people fell in love with.

The reality is the ITS is a consolation prize for people who could not find a Civic Type R at MSRP or with a reasonable ADM. The demand only recently surged into the stratosphere when the reality set in that securing a Civic Type R is a wet dream and thought the ITS would only be a few thousand more and widely available at MSRP.

[pikkagtr]

For $52k ......one can find a nice low mileage DC2 ITR
Which is 10x whatever this monstrosity is

[Ricochet48]

Originally Posted by Mingwan

4k is not large amount in a 50k price range, but I think at 48k for a car like this, you’ve already done a lot of bargaining with yourself to accept the price tag. An extra 4k is probably hard to stomach when you subconsciously know you’re getting ripped off paying 48k to begin with.

Pass. You can find a good condition DC5 for 15k. Would rather have that.

This. I already did a lot of mental gymnastics to force myself into thinking $48K made sense at $52K I'm in fully B58 zone, even with pricy options.

I also have a top tier 06 VBP DC5 with 50K miles (single owner). It's been great, but I've had it half my life, so in a few years a CPO G42 is my move.

[Ricochet48]

Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

The $4k delta is the difference of $64 per month on a 72 month loan at 5.04%.

72 months is way to long of a long imo. I would follow the 20/4/10 rule.

More generally I think you should make close to 3x (gross) the value of whatever car you buy (assuming $0 debt). So for $50K I'd want to make nearly $150K. My job is in finance so I'm naturally a bit more conservative on car purchases than many enthusiasts on here though. I couldn't imagine not maxing my 401K so I could have a faster car, etc.

I also might just buy in cash, these interest rates are (still) terrible. We will see what the market is like in 1-2 years.

[Clark_Kent]

Originally Posted by Ricochet48

72 months is way to long of a long imo. I would follow the 20/4/10 rule.

More generally I think you should make close to 3x (gross) the value of whatever car you buy (assuming $0 debt). So for $50K I'd want to make nearly $150K. My job is in finance so I'm naturally a bit more conservative on car purchases than many enthusiasts on here though. I couldn't imagine not maxing my 401K so I could have a faster car, etc.

I also might just buy in cash, these interest rates are (still) terrible. We will see what the market is like in 1-2 years.

Yeah, I get the financial piece of it, as I work in the financial services space. But it's difficult to apply too much logic to this or you would be a bystander and not a participant. It's like religion or politics in the sense that there are parts of it that align with your beliefs and there are parts that do not. Many of us jump in and out of these cars with automated efficiency. I've had 10 cars in 8 years and that's likely a relatively low number compared to others on this forum. There's nothing financially responsible about this passion/hobby. In the grand scheme, I'm fiscally responsible and invest and save heavy but if I want a car, can afford it, I buy it, end of discussion. I don't care too much about if I should buy it or what makes the most financial sense.

I understand though. I'm not here to tell anyone how to spend their money, just thought I'd introduce a perspective.

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by Ricochet48

72 months is way to long of a long imo. I would follow the 20/4/10 rule.

More generally I think you should make close to 3x (gross) the value of whatever car you buy (assuming $0 debt). So for $50K I'd want to make nearly $150K. My job is in finance so I'm naturally a bit more conservative on car purchases than many enthusiasts on here though. I couldn't imagine not maxing my 401K so I could have a faster car, etc.

I also might just buy in cash, these interest rates are (still) terrible. We will see what the market is like in 1-2 years.

Too broad of a brush. Lots of different situations out there.

[Mingwan]

Originally Posted by Ricochet48

This. I already did a lot of mental gymnastics to force myself into thinking $48K made sense at $52K I'm in fully B58 zone, even with pricy options.

I also have a top tier 06 VBP DC5 with 50K miles (single owner). It's been great, but I've had it half my life, so in a few years a CPO G42 is my move.

Nice. I had an 06 DC5 as well. One of the few cars I got rid of that I wish I kept.

[AlpineBoost]

[EDWYER]

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-type-s-drive/

[Burrcold]

Great job Acura! The most compelling product you've released outside of the NSX. Everything is expensive these days so I won't touch that, but as a product, this is exactly what the Type S should be (vs the CTR). I'm still amazed that Honda decided to make a somewhat bespoke model for only the NA market. Hopefully it sells well and dealers don't price this out of the range of an average (for this market) consumer.

[Clark_Kent]

Originally Posted by AlpineBoost

Originally Posted by EDWYER

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-type-s-drive/

Originally Posted by Burrcold

Great job Acura! The most compelling product you've released outside of the NSX. Everything is expensive these days so I won't touch that, but as a product, this is exactly what the Type S should be (vs the CTR). I'm still amazed that Honda decided to make a somewhat bespoke model for only the NA market. Hopefully it sells well and dealers don't price this out of the range of an average (for this market) consumer.

Thanks for posting this. After the media embargo was lifted, all of the reviews flooded the Internet. I haven't read or watched them all but I intend to.

I was able to spend about 90 minutes this morning with the ITS. In the interest of transparency, my perspective of this car is in the context of being an FL5 CTR owner. It was about what I expected it to be. Some wins, some misses, and a few surprises. It's a solid offering, good for the Honda/Acura brand, and great for enthusiasts. The challenge for me is still the price point. With an entry price of $52K, it's still a tough sell. The good thing is this car can easily be had for MSRP, and quite frankly, below if you're a savvy buyer and willing to wait. Early indications are that anyone who wants an ITS will be able to get one at a reasonable price.

[ASAP]

52k for a fwd turbo 4 banger Honda... what has this world come to lol?

an m340i is 56k... these are cars not in the same stratosphere lol... what am i missing here?