Stage 2 Sneak Peak

themyst · 09-19-2011, 07:14 PM

Thanks wil! I'll have a jb4 dyno run at 17 psi on meth (pretty standard boost setting for piggy) when I hit the dyno this weekend.

I'm sure you're all more interested in the Cobb stage 2 beta stuff though. The jb4 run is mostly for comparison purposes. Figure the time it takes for reflash between maps will be more than enough for cooldown as well.

Figure the stock and jb4 on meth runs first, then Cobb 1, 2 on meth and 2 off meth would be the best order to go. The fmic will be heatsoaked to hell if I did it any other way.

Ps this is going to be done on a dynojet.

If stage 1 numbers are uninteresting, I could skip that altogether and save 20 minutes in the process.

Brey335i · 09-19-2011, 07:23 PM

I for one would love to see Stage 1 and Stage 2 done on the same dyno on the same day. Just for comparison purposes.

bulldog_yyc · 09-19-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brey335i

What setup did you have before? Just wondering

cobb S1 and JB3 before that

bulldog_yyc · 09-19-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwm3redblack

Is it really noticable gain in hp an tq in comparison with stage1 and stage 2?
I mean does it really feels a great improvement?
What is your current setup? (dp's exhaust/fmic)
Just wanna be ready when st2 released

stage 2 is an animal vs. stage 1
setup is FBO, like Cobb recommends

Black Sheep · 09-19-2011, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by turkish335

stage 2 is an animal vs. stage 1

Bash · 09-20-2011, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by themyst

Thanks wil! I'll have a jb4 dyno run at 17 psi on meth (pretty standard boost setting for piggy) when I hit the dyno this weekend.

I'm sure you're all more interested in the Cobb stage 2 beta stuff though. The jb4 run is mostly for comparison purposes. Figure the time it takes for reflash between maps will be more than enough for cooldown as well.

Figure the stock and jb4 on meth runs first, then Cobb 1, 2 on meth and 2 off meth would be the best order to go. The fmic will be heatsoaked to hell if I did it any other way.

Ps this is going to be done on a dynojet.

If stage 1 numbers are uninteresting, I could skip that altogether and save 20 minutes in the process.

Nail biting wait!!

BobS · 09-20-2011, 08:18 AM

Does the cobb stg 2 throw any codes? One thing I like about the GIAC is, it won't throw codes, gives me a piece of mind that i'm not pushing the car that hard, but still getting decent power. I love that tq I see on that dyno for the Cobb stg 2! I know its just in beta now but just wondering from those that are running it.

Black Sheep · 09-20-2011, 08:27 AM

I have not seen any codes yet, I've done several 2-4 gear pulls and no codes... With the decent weather we had over the weekend, I really beat the car to see if I could get any codes. You guys will not be disappointed with Stage2+ (Drive) Very smooth. Aggressive is nasty

BobS · 09-20-2011, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Sheep

I have not seen any codes yet, I've done several 2-4 gear pulls and no codes... With the decent weather we had over the weekend, I really beat the car to see if I could get any codes. You guys will not be disappointed with Stage2+ (Drive) Very smooth. Aggressive is nasty

Nice....Cobb needs to come out with this quick, i'll do a direct dyno comparison with giac stg 2

dzenno · 09-20-2011, 09:14 AM

What's the difference between stg2 and stg2+?

themyst · 09-20-2011, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

What's the difference between stg2 and stg2+?

Ever seen mr5 thread? Throw a jb+ on top of GIAC 2+ and there's no stronger tune out there.

dzenno · 09-20-2011, 09:31 AM

So higher boost but same timing as stage 2?

Clap135 · 09-20-2011, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

What's the difference between stg2 and stg2+?

stage 2 plus is for fbo
stage 2 is for tbe.

themyst · 09-20-2011, 09:34 AM

No actually 2 degrees more timing than stock and similar boost. dzenno, ever consider running a jb+ on top of whatever Cobb map you're running?

Unless I'm thinking about stage 2 race on GIAC.

Black Sheep · 09-20-2011, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Clap135

stage 2 plus is for fbo
stage 2 is for tbe.

dzenno · 09-20-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by themyst

No actually 2 degrees more timing than stock and similar boost. dzenno, ever consider running a jb+ on top of whatever Cobb map you're running?

Unless I'm thinking about stage 2 race on GIAC.

2deg more timing "all" the way through or just top end? I tried running a jb+ on stg1 when it came out but i couldn't get the "tune" I wanted out of that combo..

bmwm3redblack · 09-20-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by turkish335

stage 2 is an animal vs. stage 1
setup is FBO, like Cobb recommends

I love to hear that,cause i was afraid that after stage1,we will get another 20-30hp with stage2 and it would be not very noticeable!
But if you say Animal that's great

secretsquirrel · 09-20-2011, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwm3redblack

I love to hear that,cause i was afraid that after stage1,we will get another 20-30hp with stage2 and it would be not very noticeable!
But if you say Animal that's great

30hp is very noticeable.

vasillalov · 09-20-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

What's the difference between stg2 and stg2+?

GIAC Stage 2+ is for FBO + Meth or race gas.

themyst · 09-20-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

2deg more timing "all" the way through or just top end? I tried running a jb+ on stg1 when it came out but i couldn't get the "tune" I wanted out of that combo..

Search mr.5 threads he posted the curve. It's 2 degrees all the way.

dzenno · 09-20-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by vasillalov

GIAC Stage 2+ is for FBO + Meth or race gas.

is this the case for cobb stg2+...if boost levels are the same as stg2 and timing is 2deg higher than stock all the way through I'd be surprised that its meant for pump gas only

Clap135 · 09-20-2011, 11:12 AM

I dunno where u people are getting this timing thing from.
cobb stage 2+ is pump gas fbo
cobb stage 2 is tbe

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themyst Major General 192 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	Thanks wil! I'll have a jb4 dyno run at 17 psi on meth (pretty standard boost setting for piggy) when I hit the dyno this weekend. I'm sure you're all more interested in the Cobb stage 2 beta stuff though. The jb4 run is mostly for comparison purposes. Figure the time it takes for reflash between maps will be more than enough for cooldown as well. Figure the stock and jb4 on meth runs first, then Cobb 1, 2 on meth and 2 off meth would be the best order to go. The fmic will be heatsoaked to hell if I did it any other way. Ps this is going to be done on a dynojet. If stage 1 numbers are uninteresting, I could skip that altogether and save 20 minutes in the process. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT Last edited by themyst; 09-19-2011 at 07:20 PM..
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Brey335i Banned 122 Rep 4,771 Posts Drives: e46 ///M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (11)	I for one would love to see Stage 1 and Stage 2 done on the same dyno on the same day. Just for comparison purposes.
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BobS Colonel 99 Rep 2,002 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern NJ iTrader: (0)	Does the cobb stg 2 throw any codes? One thing I like about the GIAC is, it won't throw codes, gives me a piece of mind that i'm not pushing the car that hard, but still getting decent power. I love that tq I see on that dyno for the Cobb stg 2! I know its just in beta now but just wondering from those that are running it. __________________ ESS 650 ACM-R Upgrades
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dzenno Banned 298 Rep 5,876 Posts Drives: Join Date: Feb 2006 iTrader: (1)	So higher boost but same timing as stage 2?
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themyst Major General 192 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	No actually 2 degrees more timing than stock and similar boost. dzenno, ever consider running a jb+ on top of whatever Cobb map you're running? Unless I'm thinking about stage 2 race on GIAC. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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Clap135 Brigadier General 112 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	I dunno where u people are getting this timing thing from. cobb stage 2+ is pump gas fbo cobb stage 2 is tbe
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