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LOGIC7.. Finally, Optimal EQ Settings for E90, E92
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10-01-2013, 12:55 AM | #288 |
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Try scrolling to the right, there should be an "EQ SET" menu. If you don't have it, your car does not have the Harmon Kardon Logic7 Audio.
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10-17-2013, 12:55 AM | #290 |
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2011 E91 w/ iDrive. Used the E90 settings and it sounds great. Thanks!
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11-05-2013, 06:00 PM | #291 | |
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I would assume the settings would be close?
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01-08-2014, 11:43 PM | #293 |
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Cool post but coming from someone who has studied audio (both analog and digital) EQing is all personal preference. You are essentially selecting frequency ranges to be more or less appealing to your own liking. Someone who likes Bass will want to crank up the lower frequencies (for Dubstep or hip hop for example) and someone who likes treble or detail ranges will want to crank up higher frequency ranges (for classical or jazz for example). I will say there is a "crunchy" range of frequencies between 800-1K Hz that commonly sounds poor to the majority of humans. Typically bumping down these frequencies will open up the audio horizon to more pleasing frequencies and make music as a whole more enjoyable. Great post!
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01-26-2014, 11:51 AM | #294 | |
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03-02-2014, 09:47 PM | #296 |
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Yesterday I installed a set of SWS-8's. I tested them with the settings that I dialed in when I first got my car. The bass did seem a slight bit better. I then set my EQ settings posted by Malek on the first page of this thread. I must admit, the sound was fuller, but I lost the punch to my bass. Tomorrow I will get the OEM tweeter to add to the front center. Of course, that won't help my bass. I do have the Technic harness and a two channel amp to boost those SWS-8Xi's.
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03-18-2014, 03:48 PM | #298 | |
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07-23-2014, 06:17 PM | #299 |
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What settings would you recommend for a 07 335i coupe? I have the Equalizer but no nav screen. I listen to mostly artists like Gucci Mane, Drake, The Weeknd, etc.
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08-13-2014, 08:20 PM | #300 |
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Has anyone tried them in an e93 as well? How did you fare out?
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08-20-2014, 03:15 PM | #301 |
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Aren't the audio settings all up to personal preference/taste? Also, different kinds/types/genres of music may require different settings.
Why are we suggesting cookie cutter settings for everyone to use? And who decided that these are the ideal settings?
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08-21-2014, 01:37 AM | #302 | |
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11-12-2014, 10:03 AM | #303 | |
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Of course you are right about individual preferences but ideally you start from a flat acoustic reproduction spectrum. Meaning you use a signal analyzer to compare input source spectrum to sound output spectrum at typical ear location. You then adjust where possible to get that as close to equal in each band, so that reproduced sound is as close to recorded sound as possible. This nullifies peculiarities in the audio system components and cabin, so that the sound you hear is as close to that recorded as possible. Then you adjust up or down as needed from there. With the advent of many speaker systems and lots of sound processing, plus multiple adjustment bands, sometimes this is a hopeless task. For example, go set all your logic 7 eq settings to to zero, and turn off sound all processing. Then try adjusting only treble and bass, see how good it sounds. (I just did this) It sucks! Then set it back to these. Much better. Not perfect but close to flat. Once you are close to flat you can even just adjust treble and/or bass up or down to suit instead of messing with sub-bands. I find these settings a bit too bright high end, so I lower treble little, esp playing off the hard disk with the digital compression algorithm distortion. This is generally what an equalizer is for, compensating for environmental and installation/equipment acoustic deviations/variations from perfect reproduction. You need high quality mics to do it though and that is often not feasible for ordinary folks. What you are measuring in engineering terms is the acoustic transfer function from input (source material) to output (sound @ listener's ear location(s)), and you want those to be flat in each band. But as a starting point only. Last edited by ajsalida; 11-12-2014 at 10:10 AM.. |
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11-12-2014, 10:20 AM | #304 |
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I tried the setting in this post, they sounded good when the car was stationary, but where completely useless when the car was moving. Road noise tramps some of the fine tuning and makes some frequencies disappear completely with the "optimal" setting. The default of the car actually sounds better with the car in motion.
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11-12-2014, 10:44 AM | #305 | |
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11-12-2014, 01:49 PM | #306 |
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Sorry, have an 09 e92 L7 idrive. I used the updated settings in the first post as baseline and then adjust only bass and treble a bit depending on the music.
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11-13-2014, 06:17 PM | #307 |
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Nice settings..,.
I use a Rockford fosgate Bluetooth in the lighter inside the console to Bluetooth to the radio and it sounds a lot cleaner this way. A song like sweet emotion by Aerosmith sounds really really good at the beginning |
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12-11-2014, 09:19 AM | #308 |
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I know this is an old thread, but...it IS a sticky.
I got frustrated a while back trying to fine tune my Logic 7 system, especially after coming from a car (my old E46) that had a nearly competition-ready system in it. But, I figured "Why bother upgrading the sound system in a convertible?" So...I've been listening to the stock system for the last 3 years, playing around with the various surround and EQ settings (including the ones recommended by the OP...which were "OK" but NOT the best for my car). Never got the sound quality anywhere near the critical listening level that I was used to in my previous ride (which took me almost a year of tuning to get just right). BUT THEN, I made the single biggest improvement in the audio quality in my E93, and...it was quite by accident. I installed the AirEnabler to get Airplay in the car, mainly for my iPad mini install. Included in the installation was the use of the Soundblaster Xi-Go! portable DAC. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...1#post17039128 Suddenly, the sound stage opened up and the overall sound quality was improved DRAMATICALLY. I got excited about listening to my favorite tracks - that I used to tune my old system - for the first time in over 3 years. As lame as it may sound, I used to use Madonnna's Immaculate Collection to tune the system, getting turned onto that idea by my local car audio shop. Most of her music is very precisely recorded with great stereo separation, especially "Vogue", and has lots of hard hitting bass. With the Soundblaster (which is a CHEAP little DAC unit), the music came alive so I dove into the EQ and surround settings to tweak it. I had the settings almost right before this, but I had it on the wrong Surround mode (using Concert Hall, as the OP suggested....which required the balance be shifted significantly to the right in my car). I have found using a DAC that the best surround mode is the THEATER setting and that the best settings are to have the basic treble and bass at FLAT (to be able to make minor corrections for different tracks and music genres) and to have the EQ set in what many call the "smiley face" configuration, bumping up the high and low end to 3 bars from max and setting the rest in a gradual concave curve. I'm still playing with the 500, 1K and 2K Hz settings but my curve looks sorta like this one (pic below) I just found by Googling "BMW Logic 7 equalizer". Now, the Balance is at center on most tracks and the Fade is 2 bars to the rear. Anyway...it is clear to me that if someone wants to get serious about improving the sound in their stock Logic 7 system, one of the first things to do...other than dumping Bluetooth (which doesn't compare to AirPlay)...is to incorporate a DAC, which is easily done using the auxiliary input and power outlet in the center armrest console. The AirEnabler is a very cool upgrade and there are a number of DACs that can be used with it (which I am now researching). It's great to be back in stereo upgrade mode! Looks like I'll be using some of the stuff (subs, amps, Audiocontrol units, etc.) I pulled out of my old car after all.
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