[Davil]

Ok. I’ll shut up after this post. But how great was Ruth on F1 TV this weekend! Really enjoyed her insights. She’s clearly on the spectrum. Just like me. Takes one to admire one.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

He decided to go over it head on and saved the car and his race, if he tried to turn then he'd go like Charlie did at Monaco at that time sideways over the curb then the barrier and his race would be over. Actually it's a miracle MAX got second at all with the stewards putting the boot in also with the SC joke timing giving the Mac car the race win there and then, can we guess who was on the stewards...

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Horner : MAX takes out a bollard (cone) , and got a hole in his floor ...
I think it was also by running over the big curb.
It was MAX's first mistake in the last 3 years ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HpFgwd-RiE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wABB0vL42LM

Track testing of course.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Davil

Yet he was pulling away 0.5 seconds a lap. Just enjoy it for what it was. Some amazing racing too. Don’t overthink it.

Lewis was a new man this weekend too. He did a chicken little. It was a new day.

And I’m saying this as an Aston tragic. He took both of our cars out in the sprint. Also I’ll admit our car was crap for this circuit. Really crap.

But I still thoroughly enjoyed this weekend. So much racing.

Max had a hole in his floor so that explains the delta in the last stint when Max was much faster before. Ultimately, Nor benefited massively from the SC and the fact that Max had damage. Not entirely on merit but a win is a win for him. Now another 110 races before he gets another one
I don't mind the sprint weekends because there is def more to watch before the race itself, but I preferred the locked down aprk ferme from Fri and let drivers deal with what they chose.

[3798j]

Anyone else appreciate the irony of a Max fan lamenting the race outcome because of "questionable calls on the SC"? Heck, then Max's first WDC wasn't won entirely "by merit" rather decided/awarded after incorrect SC use...LOL.

[3798j]

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[Car-Addicted]

I forgot to mention that I'm glad Lando survived the victory celebration.

Having Zak Brown chasing me down for a bear hug would scare the heck out of me.

[Marcoose]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Actually it's a miracle MAX got second at all with the stewards putting the boot in also with the SC joke timing giving the Mac car the race win there and then, can we guess who was on the stewards...

Yeah, it’s a bitch when stewarts and race directors reach above their stations, innit ? What’s the latest with Masi ? Has he found a job yet ?

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by 3798j

Anyone else appreciate the irony of a Max fan lamenting the race outcome because of "questionable calls on the SC"? Heck, then Max's first WDC wasn't won entirely "by merit" rather decided/awarded after incorrect SC use...LOL.

If this was directed at me, not lamenting it, just saying there was a benefit as there always is...I think the floor damage was the real culprit of Max not being able to win because we've seen him race down much bigger gaps.
Ham's first WDC wasnt won on merit by any means whereas Max had a better all around season while doing it in a slower car. He backed into it when the FIA refused to invalidate a race where they knew cheating was going on.

[3798j]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

...Ham's first WDC wasnt won on merit either...

Appreciate your honesty...not many Max fans admit his first WDC wasn't won on merit. He and Lewis have even more in common.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Track testing of course.

You can bet your bottom dollar if MAX tests it and it survives then it must be good

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Marcoose

Yeah, it’s a bitch when stewarts and race directors reach above their stations, innit ? What’s the latest with Masi ? Has he found a job yet ?

Masi ? heard he's Chairman of the Australian Supercars Commission and a Director of Karting Australia, its easy just have to google it.

[Marcoose]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

Ham's first WDC wasnt won on merit either. He backed into it when the FIA refused to invalidate a race where they knew cheating was going on.

The former is a new-to-me allegation. The latter is pure gold admission. I rest my case.

[dfox]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Still not come to terms with the 2021 outcome ?

Red flag or safety car: what a difference a flag makes. Enjoy the read: https://www.racefans.net/2021/07/19/...om-retirement/

It's 2024. About time to move on, dfox.

Idgaf about the 2021 result. I'm neither a Max nor Hamilton cult member. I proudly own Norris and Perez gear, that's it. My point was that safety cars, red flags, etc. are part of the sport and it doesn't matter if Lando gained because of the safety car, that's all part of F1 strategy. It's why Piastri was told to calm down and stop putting himself or others in danger of crashing towards the end of the race. It's why everyone collectively gasped when Albon went off track.

[Marcoose]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Masi ? heard he's Chairman of the Australian Supercars Commission and a Director of Karting Australia, its easy just have to google it.

So that’s that, innit ? By the seat-of-your-pants calls are easily overlooked. In time you’ll forget about it. Just ask Verstappen fans.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by 3798j

Appreciate your honesty...not many Max fans admit his first WDC wasn't won on merit. He and Lewis have even more in common.

You've mistaken my post. I never said Max's wasnt on merit. In a slower car he had more wins, more podiums, more laps lead, etc. so it was on merit. I was saying, if you believe that than you'd need to admit Ham's wasnt either. That is not what I believe especially in the context of all drivers and team agreed to end in green racing conditions in the last race.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by 3798j

Appreciate your honesty...not many Max fans admit his first WDC wasn't won on merit. He and Lewis have even more in common.

Not what I was saying at all.

[3798j]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

Not what I was saying at all.

I'm saying neither drivers deserved their first WDC...Thought with your "Ham's first WDC wasnt won on merit either." comment that we were in agreement...you confused me.

[Marcoose]

Originally Posted by 3798j

I'm saying neither drivers deserved their first WDC...Thought with your "Ham's first WDC wasnt won on merit either." comment that we were in agreement...you confused me.

Nah. Zero confusion. Anyone with basic command of English knows that 'either' in that context applies to the unmentioned character in the story. Full stop.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Marcoose

The former is a new-to-me allegation. The latter is pure gold admission. I rest my case.

What? I think you've got former and latter mixed up here but no, my response was in saying if you don't believe Max's was (which is was on merit) then Ham's wasn't either. Nothing more, nothing less.

[FC4]

Originally Posted by 3798j

I'm saying neither drivers deserved their first WDC...

I still don't understand the argument that Lewis' first title isn't deserved. Please elaborate.

[Marcoose]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

What? I think you've got former and latter mixed up here but no, my response was in saying if you don't believe Max's was (which is was on merit) then Ham's wasn't either. Nothing more, nothing less.

Exactly. Verstappen's first title was not on merit. Thank you admitting that. (For that matter his second also carries an asterisk.)

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Marcoose

Exactly. Verstappen's first title was not on merit. Thank you admitting that. (For that matter his second also carries an asterisk.)

LOL - I said the exact opposite. On the other hand every one Ham has "won" has a huge asterisk before and after it. You're free to feel how you'd like but does not align to my thinking on it.