[dzenno]

Originally Posted by Clap135

I dunno where u people are getting this timing thing from.
cobb stage 2+ is pump gas fbo
cobb stage 2 is tbe

ok, but what're the differences tune wise?

[Clap135]

common sense would indicate slightly less boost and timing btwn stage 2 and stage 2+.

Personally I havnt tried the stage 2 map as i went for the most aggressive one off the bat

[themyst]

Originally Posted by Clap135

common sense would indicate slightly less boost and timing btwn stage 2 and stage 2+.

Personally I havnt tried the stage 2 map as i went for the most aggressive one off the bat

I don't think any beta tester tried the weaker maps lol. We all went straight for stage 2 fmic aggressive

[Black Sheep]

Originally Posted by themyst

We all went straight for stage 2 fmic aggressive

[PlutoniumTans]

Why does it boost so high though ? how come Giac has similar results with much less boost ? Thanks

[Alan l.]

^^ can't really compare boost between two flash tunes that targets load unless its measured by the same car, same day, same weather.

18psi during the summer could be 15.5psi in the middle of winter on the same exact tune

[secretsquirrel]

Originally Posted by PlutoniumTans

Why does it boost so high though ? how come Giac has similar results with much less boost ? Thanks

I'm interested to see this thing on a real dyno and not a simulated program. I am particularly interested in seeing if there are real advantages of boosting to almost 19psi on these turbos on pump.

Lastly, I am interested in seeing what Cobb will do in the summer if stg 2 is already boosting this high in fall weather.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

^^ can't really compare boost between two flash tunes that targets load unless its measured by the same car, same day, same weather.

18psi during the summer could be 15.5psi in the middle of winter on the same exact tune

Not to mention differences in modifications will change how much boost is necessary to hit load target. Good post.

[Clap135]

i guess everyone missed the point where there were boost caps put into place? IMO the tune has range of 1psi in either directions based on conditions. Thats just a guess based off my logs. There are also ect/iat boost reductions you can log incase things get too hot.

[Clap135]

It also seems like people missed this as well



The stage is is an early beta, cobb reported the newest one is a little hotter.

[dzenno]

that's awesome, 100whp/120wtq gains over stock baseline on pump gas...

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by dzenno

that's awesome, 100whp/120wtq gains over stock baseline on pump gas...

Different cars at different times but likely not too far off.

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

Different cars at different times but likely not too far off.

true but this is a mustang load bearing dyno and hopefully same car was used to do the baseline as well...

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by dzenno

true but this is a mustang load bearing dyno and hopefully same car was used to do the baseline as well...

Like I said, they ARE different cars. It says right on the dyno. 2007 335i VS 2009. Spread 5 months apart. Not saying its too far off, just something to note.

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

Like I said, they ARE different cars. It says right on the dyno. 2007 335i VS 2009. Spread 5 months apart. Not saying its too far off, just something to note.

i'm blind...

[Juicehead]

man, everytime I see this thread getting action I get all excited...

maybe this week?

[Clap135]

Here you go, same car, same dyno, different days, different stages

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by Clap135

Here you go, same car, same dyno, different days, different stages

Cool, just as I thought...with load targeting all the cars will/should be in the same range of "delta"

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by dzenno

i'm blind...

Dont worry it's not you, ITS EVERYONE.

I'm constantly repeating myself in PM's on an hourly basis. You will have to excuse me

Originally Posted by Clap135

Here you go, same car, same dyno, different days, different stages

Nice

[bmwm3redblack]

Originally Posted by Clap135

stage 2 plus is for fbo
stage 2 is for tbe.

Clap, can you explain:
stage2 plus is FBO ( catless dp's, catback,intake and fmic)
stage2 is TBE, what does it require???

[thebigragu99]

Originally Posted by Clap135

Here you go, same car, same dyno, different days, different stages

CLap this is the new graph for the stage 2 on a mustang correct?

[Proper Motion LLC]

That graph makes it look like Stage 2 is tapering boost too much.

No gains past 5800RPM vs Stage 1?

In fact that graph makes it look as if Stage 1 makes more power than Stage 2 beyond 6k rpm