[chris b.]

will all this new tunes/software coming out. you think someone might make diagnostic software for all of us to use as well.

[cadbimmer]

this does sound like the cobb flash. i had one for my legacy gt and all you did was plug into the obdII port and select stg1 or stg 2 if you had a DP and it did the work for you. then you could buy specific maps for certain upgrades(such as fmic, injectors etc from a shop like tdc tuning and they just emailed the map to you and then you just upload)if the shark injector works like this then im on board.

[Numb3rs]

I've been silent through all of this because I wanted to let what I am about to say sink in:

What Jim Conforti has done is bring every BMW enthusiast together under one platform. A collaborative open-source tuner platform that allows many people to share, distribute or refine their engine tunes. This is thee very end too backyard regional Tuners as we know it. Hardware based piggies will become obsolete.

Jim Conforti just fathered a new type of community, where the individual end-user's worth can be added to the project as a whole. Recognized tuner will be able to sell their tunes to others or just share them. I suspect that many would-be tuners will wreck their engines, but down the road many will come to know and understand true tuning.

Thank you Jim!


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[lawdude]

Originally Posted by Numb3rs

I've been silent through all of this because I wanted to let what I am about to say sink in:

What Jim Conforti has done is bring every BMW enthusiast together under one platform. A collaborative open-source tuner platform that allows many people to share, distribute or refine their engine tunes. This is thee very end too backyard regional Tuners as we know it. Hardware based piggies will become obsolete.

Jim Conforti just fathered a new type of community, where the individual end-user's worth can be added to the project as a whole. Recognized tuner will be bale to sell their tunes to others or just share them. I suspect that many would-be tuners will wreck their engines, but down the road many will come to know and understand true tuning.

Thank you Jim!


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As soon as I get in the lotus position, find my third eye, and clean the lint out of my belly button, I'll meditate about the new father of the BMW tuning cult.

[judec]

well, I was kinda missing a lawdude post in this thread. thx dude

[hotrod2448]

Originally Posted by Numb3rs

I've been silent through all of this because I wanted to let what I am about to say sink in:

What Jim Conforti has done is bring every BMW enthusiast together under one platform. A collaborative open-source tuner platform that allows many people to share, distribute or refine their engine tunes. This is thee very end too backyard regional Tuners as we know it. Hardware based piggies will become obsolete.

Jim Conforti just fathered a new type of community, where the individual end-user's worth can be added to the project as a whole. Recognized tuner will be able to sell their tunes to others or just share them. I suspect that many would-be tuners will wreck their engines, but down the road many will come to know and understand true tuning.

Thank you Jim!


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So he's given us what the honda, Evo and I'm sure quite few other communities have had for years. Revolutionary.

J/K. I can't think of any other open source platform for such a complex ECU. This is going to be interesting.

This sounds kind of similar to Ecutek. You buy a license to use the software then pay for the tune. The main difference being that Ecutek doesn't allow to tune it yourself even after you purchase the license.

I look forward to this coming out. I haven't read the thread yet. Has there been any answers as to whether or not this will give us the capability to clear any underlying codes BMW will use to void warranties with?

[Numb3rs]

Originally Posted by lawdude

As soon as I get in the lotus position, find my third eye, and clean the lint out of my belly button, I'll meditate about the new father of the BMW tuning cult.

LOL!

I really admire your sarcasm. You seem to take it to a new level each time.

AHhhh!



Technically speaking, the term "open source" infers the exact opposite of cultist or the occult. Fanbois are removed from the picture and thee argument becomes more about BMW's and their refinement and not who's piggyback is better, etc.

Though, Linus Torvalds does have a huge fan base.

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[e.n335]

Data logging and Code clearing:

There are already excellent products on the market, e.g. Auterra Dynoscan which logs data via the OBDII port using the canbus protocol. A Dynorun can be simulated as well. Codes are cleared except the extended BMW Codes. Once this will be implemented, a great software.

Shark Editor:

As discussed. I hope Jim will come up with a couple of maps for the N54 and for sure I would prefer to buy maps from the creator of Shark Edit, who knows best about the N54 ECU's and Shark Edit's capabilities.

Thanks Jim.

[T Bone]

Originally Posted by D0WN4IT

But what about when you bring it in for service and you flash back to the stock map? Can they still know? They didnt on my B6 S4 with the GIAC flashing...

see http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=116

[roozie2001]

Originally Posted by e.n335

Data logging and Code clearing:

There are already excellent products on the market, e.g. Auterra Dynoscan which logs data via the OBDII port using the canbus protocol. A Dynorun can be simulated as well. Codes are cleared except the extended BMW Codes. Once this will be implemented, a great software.

Shark Editor:

As discussed. I hope Jim will come up with a couple of maps for the N54 and for sure I would prefer to buy maps from the creator of Shark Edit, who knows best about the N54 ECU's and Shark Edit's capabilities.

Thanks Jim.

+1

thats what im hoping for that Jim comes out with a few maps of his own. Cuz if i try to make my own you can guarantee that im gonna blow my engine in the first month.

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by roozie2001

+1

thats what im hoping for that Jim comes out with a few maps of his own. Cuz if i try to make my own you can guarantee that im gonna blow my engine in the first month.

I'm sure other reputable companies will come up with maps soon as well. However, currently Jim C. knows the N54 ECU and his Shark Edit software best .

[astris]

What do you have to say about this magic 8 ball?

Your future holds... a community of poorly tuned BMWs. lol, jk... well sort of.

Call me a skeptic, but "universal," "undetectable," and "user customizable" doesn’t seem all achievable with one product. Usually if a product does many things, it just does them only adequately.

We'll just have to wait and see how well the product can perform. I'm mostly curious as to how much tuning control is given to the end user. If it can do half of what the hype is, it will be a success. Theoretically it sounds like a great product.

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by astris

What do you have to say about this magic 8 ball?

Your future holds... a community of poorly tuned BMWs. lol, jk... well sort of.

Call me a skeptic, but "universal," "undetectable," and "user customizable" doesn’t seem all achievable with one product. Usually if a product does many things, it just does them only adequately.

We'll just have to wait and see how well the product can perform. I'm mostly curious as to how much tuning control is given to the end user. If it can do half of what the hype is, it will be a success. Theoretically it sounds like a great product.

As I understood, Shark Edit it's a binary ECU editor. So when you know the offsets and the format of the information you can do everything, really everything. Now, when you would have some kind of customized GUI in addition, you would have a car specific graphical user front-end in addition.

[T Bone]

guys,

I put together a theory on how the Land Shark will work. We love to speculate anyway as we await real data.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139632

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by T Bone

guys,

I put together a theory on how the Land Shark will work. We love to speculate anyway as we await real data.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139632

Great posting. Basicly you are talking about access control. Nearly every computer works with user authentication. Get the right boot mode and maintenance login - voila. You can edit ( change ) everything you like .

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by Railgunner

What percentage of 335i owners ever actually "tune" their cars? 1/2%?

My guess is that the "rep" the 335i will for being a tuners car will probably
generate more in sales to posers than the cost of replacing a few blown turbos.

I really think it's less than 1% tuning their 335i. It's just a feeling. BMW has to protect themself from warranty claims where the cause of the failure is wrong tuning. They will not loose any customer as long such great guys like Jim provide such great tuning solutions .

[5soko]

Originally Posted by O-cha

You have proof of this? People have been saying that about piggybacks forever now. I've always said it was easy JUST based on the adaptations of the car let a lone tell tale codes. Now it's a universal truth with even shiv admitting so.

You so much as look at the ECU code wrong and BMW WILL know.

lmaf0o i was thinking the same thing... but this Shark system doesnt work with the new DME v81 or new software v29.2 yet does it.

[stressdoc]

<1%? In the USA I think it's much higher. If Dinan is doing >200 a month, and everyone else combined another 200/mo, thats 400/mo. And BMW is selling about 4000 335s /mo. So that is closer to 10%. Realizing that most tunes are to older cars, but still, it's a lot more than 1%. And the Shark is only going to pull in more.

[stillclaimndp]

I humbly predict that were he to buy this product, the individual that would then be formerly known as StillclaimnDP would haphazardly edit this not-so-simple ECU (because he is too cheap to pay $2,000 for telephone support) thereby causing the car to launch a piston through either the hood (thus impaling a low flying goose heading home from his southern retreat), the front bumper (and shortly thereafter through the rear bumper of the Z06 Corvette as it passes him by hollaring out "there's no replacement for displacement! Yeehaaawww!"), or through the firewall (and shortly thereafter his egg-shaped cranium thus relieving him of the need to rebut the responses of this particular post). I'll just stick with a piggyback Mine has a nifty remote!

[Craigito]

Originally Posted by stillclaimndp

I humbly predict that were he to buy this product, the individual that would then be formerly known as StillclaimnDP would haphazardly edit this not-so-simple ECU (because he is too cheap to pay $2,000 for telephone support) thereby causing the car to launch a piston through either the hood (thus impaling a low flying goose heading home from his southern retreat), the front bumper (and shortly thereafter through the rear bumper of the Z06 Corvette as it passes him by hollaring out "there's no replacement for displacement! Yeehaaawww!"), or through the firewall (and shortly thereafter his egg-shaped cranium thus relieving him of the need to rebut the responses of this particular post). I'll just stick with a piggyback Mine has a nifty remote!

Based on your list of cars in your sig, you won't have your 335i much longer anyways

[stressdoc]

Originally Posted by stillclaimndp

I humbly predict that were he to buy this product, the individual that would then be formerly known as StillclaimnDP would haphazardly edit this not-so-simple ECU (because he is too cheap to pay $2,000 for telephone support) thereby causing the car to launch a piston through either the hood (thus impaling a low flying goose heading home from his southern retreat), the front bumper (and shortly thereafter through the rear bumper of the Z06 Corvette as it passes him by hollaring out "there's no replacement for displacement! Yeehaaawww!"), or through the firewall (and shortly thereafter his egg-shaped cranium thus relieving him of the need to rebut the responses of this particular post). I'll just stick with a piggyback Mine has a nifty remote!

Why not just either:

a) use a proven Shark Injector program for ~ $500
or,
b) have another tune, say a Vishnu tune, injected for ~ $300 ?

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO MAKE YOUR OWN PROGRAM (as tempting as that might be...)

The only folks paying the big $ for support are the local dealers. The Shark system is just a better way to adjust the DME than a piggy. And much cheaper.

And, if we can dream on, rather than use a remote to swap programs on the fly, you could control program swaps from your steering wheel buttons, watch your boost levels on your Nav screen, who knows what all once Eugen, A418t18, et al get going on this platform.

[stillclaimndp]

Originally Posted by Craigito

Based on your list of cars in your sig, you won't have your 335i much longer anyways

lol true. good man^