[bNks334]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Stumbled on that today...

what is the mod?

Injen Technology SP1121 Intake System? This is from the manufacturer?

[NiNeTyOne]

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

Different dynos? Dynojets are pretty standardized, maybe somebody messed with the fudge factor on the mustang.

Over the years I've had the Mustang be MUCH more accurate than Dynojet. Dynojet is always pretty optimistic with their numbers.

National Speed is in Wilmington, NC, so factor in some humidity and temp as well, since tetsuo is dynoing in the PNW where it's likely cooler and less humidity depending on the day.

I hate dyno sheets without any environmental data, it's such a huge part of the picture.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by NiNeTyOne

Over the years I've had the Mustang be MUCH more accurate than Dynojet. Dynojet is always pretty optimistic with their numbers.

National Speed is in Wilmington, NC, so factor in some humidity and temp as well, since tetsuo is dynoing in the PNW where it's likely cooler and less humidity depending on the day.

I hate dyno sheets without any environmental data, it's such a huge part of the picture.

Not on a dynojet, the correction factor helps, though it won't do anything about a car pulling timing.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by bNks334

what is the mod?

Injen Technology SP1121 Intake System? This is from the manufacturer?

Yeah, it's from them directly

[NiNeTyOne]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Not on a dynojet, the correction factor helps, though it won't do anything about a car pulling timing.

Exactly my point.

What I'd rather know is what the car makes for a given relative humidity and temp rather than let the dyno correct that out, but that's a habit of mine since I was programming ECU's for two-stroke GP Motorcycles. Very helpful back in carburated days when it impacted jetting directly.

Knowing how much power you really made let me create a gearing offset table for circuits based on corrected air density.

I got used to looking at it this way and really don't like to look at "corrected" results ever since.

[hassmaschine]

in my case the SAE numbers were way less than uncorrected. In my other car it made little difference - personally I find them really consistent, and if comparing STD to STD or SAE to SAE, they're pretty repeatable.

Dynos are just a tool - there's no use in comparing different machines. It matters not if a Dynojet shows a higher number or a lower number than another brand - it's a tool that's useful for tuning. If you see a gain of 10% on the same machine, then you have made progress. if you just want a dyno number, well you can make the machine tell you anything you want (which goes for basically any dyno out there).

[NiNeTyOne]

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

in my case the SAE numbers were way less than uncorrected. In my other car it made little difference - personally I find them really consistent, and if comparing STD to STD or SAE to SAE, they're pretty repeatable.

Dynos are just a tool - there's no use in comparing different machines. It matters not if a Dynojet shows a higher number or a lower number than another brand - it's a tool that's useful for tuning. If you see a gain of 10% on the same machine, then you have made progress. if you just want a dyno number, well you can make the machine tell you anything you want (which goes for basically any dyno out there).

Yeah, just try to stay on the same dyno. Comparing dynos from different manufacturers in different parts of the country at different altitudes is a lot like comparing Kiwi fruit to Apples to Honeydew Mellon.

Did you sort out software for flashing yet?

[hassmaschine]

no - probably easiest to just use BDM for now. I'd like to finish projects I've already started, lol.

[NiNeTyOne]

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

no - probably easiest to just use BDM for now. I'd like to finish projects I've already started, lol.

I hear you there. I'm about to take a 4000 mile road trip with the kid, surfing my way down the coast and back. We'll get to mine once I'm back in town in a few weeks. Need to pick up a manifold, haven't been able to find one yet. Need to search the P&P's around here for a low miles 330.

Would be fun to put that in before I split :/

[tdavis42]

Originally Posted by NiNeTyOne

I hear you there. I'm about to take a 4000 mile road trip with the kid, surfing my way down the coast and back. We'll get to mine once I'm back in town in a few weeks. Need to pick up a manifold, haven't been able to find one yet. Need to search the P&P's around here for a low miles 330.

Would be fun to put that in before I split :/

I found one on car-part.com off a 2012 328i with 12k miles for $250 shipped. When you call these guys that have them most of them will tell you that they know what you are looking for and yes its the correct one. Car-part.com also cross references for you so it will show a 2006 330i and the 2012 328i in the same search.

[hassmaschine]

2012 328i must have been an N51?

[tdavis42]

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

2012 328i must have been an N51?

Might have been a 2013 can't remember off the top of my head. But yes it was from a N51.

[NiNeTyOne]

Originally Posted by tdavis42

I found one on car-part.com off a 2012 328i with 12k miles for $250 shipped. When you call these guys that have them most of them will tell you that they know what you are looking for and yes its the correct one. Car-part.com also cross references for you so it will show a 2006 330i and the 2012 328i in the same search.

PM'd you.

[NiNeTyOne]

Originally Posted by tdavis42

I found one on car-part.com off a 2012 328i with 12k miles for $250 shipped. When you call these guys that have them most of them will tell you that they know what you are looking for and yes its the correct one. Car-part.com also cross references for you so it will show a 2006 330i and the 2012 328i in the same search.

Got one today, with DISA valves. Paid $240 shipped. Thanks for the help!

Just needed to be patient on the search. One popped up and I jumped on it.

[dspence44]

I went through the entire thread and only found a couple dynos that gave some info on the BMS Power Box. What is the final verdict on it? The couple of dynos that I did see where stock was compared to the PBX, showed some improvement, but I have just heard so many different opinions that I do not know what to think.

I wish I could just fork out the money and jump on an AA Tune, or any other tune that is constantly being endorsed on here, but I'm a student... So I need something that gives me a little more oomph, without emptying my bank account! So that is why I am considering this. Also, I've heard it helps with the throttle response!

Anyone have any dyno results that shed a little more light on the PBX?

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by dspence44

I went through the entire thread and only found a couple dynos that gave some info on the BMS Power Box. What is the final verdict on it? The couple of dynos that I did see where stock was compared to the PBX, showed some improvement, but I have just heard so many different opinions that I do not know what to think.

I wish I could just fork out the money and jump on an AA Tune, or any other tune that is constantly being endorsed on here, but I'm a student... So I need something that gives me a little more oomph, without emptying my bank account! So that is why I am considering this. Also, I've heard it helps with the throttle response!

Anyone have any dyno results that shed a little more light on the PBX?

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

It's a hit or miss, but mostly a miss. Save for the tune, it's worth it.

[dspence44]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

It's a hit or miss, but mostly a miss. Save for the tune, it's worth it.

Thanks for the quick reply! Judging by most forums, AA Tune is the most popular choice amongst everyone?

[Mike.]

Originally Posted by dspence44

Thanks for the quick reply! Judging by most forums, AA Tune is the most popular choice amongst everyone?

for the love of God, dont get that power box

[dspence44]

Originally Posted by Mike.

for the love of God, dont get that power box

Hahaha I see this quite often, but no one really ever elaborates any further on it! What is it about this Power Box that makes people look like this? -->

[Mike.]

Originally Posted by dspence44

Hahaha I see this quite often, but no one really ever elaborates any further on it! What is it about this Power Box that makes people look like this? -->

its shit

edit: its not a real tune, it gives the same effect as if you were stepping on your gas pedal harder

[dspence44]

Originally Posted by Mike.

its shit

edit: its not a real tune, it gives the same effect as if you were stepping on your gas pedal harder

So would you consider it to be more along the lines of an accelerator re-mapping tool as opposed to an actual tune?

[Mike.]

Yeah I guess