Vishnu Single Turbo Development and more aggressive Procede v5 calibrations

plague · 10-30-2011, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisw335i

yeah those are nice numbers, but i certainly wouldnt put that much stress on my automatic lol..it would blow up haha

well yes youd need a level 10 build up lol. u can just keep your boost low

dyezak · 10-30-2011, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

For a modern high-ish compression motor with variable cam lift/timing, the turbo we are using isn't really large. Large would be sized for 1000+hp. Making 600whp efficiently, on pump gas, is the goal. At the end of the day, thats only 200whp/liter.

Pump gas, no meth, 550+hp... That would get me to purchase this. I don't want meth on my car.

rader1 · 10-30-2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dyezak

Pump gas, no meth, 550+hp... That would get me to purchase this. I don't want meth on my car.

+1

plague · 10-30-2011, 01:09 PM

use all the meth you guys have to for me lol

Sigma 3 · 10-30-2011, 03:40 PM

500 awhp on pt 6262 all day long... given the right amount of fuel and boost.

mikeith · 10-30-2011, 08:55 PM

i think if the fueling issue gets 100% ironed out and upgrade (lpfp,hpfp & injectors) then i dont see 550 being an issue w/o meth AT ALL! then just throw meth in there for some mid-low 600's! it's ok to say you dont want to use meth to make power but it is also added security by using it for its cooling benefits rather a just power benefit.

AYF80 · 10-31-2011, 10:31 PM

word

purifyer · 10-31-2011, 10:32 PM

Anyone have any idea when these beta aggressive meth maps are going to go public?

shyestsparks · 10-31-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by purifyer

Anyone have any idea when these beta aggressive meth maps are going to go public?

+1.

cn555ic · 11-01-2011, 09:45 PM

Hey Shiv now that you got the fueling aspect kind of worked out can you bring the lean run protection feature back onto the future maps?

pcockley · 11-04-2011, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

Hey Shiv now that you got the fueling aspect kind of worked out can you bring the lean run protection feature back onto the future maps?

IS the fuel worked out

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Is there any update shiv?

Transport3r · 11-04-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pcockley

IS the fuel worked out

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Is there any update shiv?

Yea, I'd like to know what the progress on the fueling solution is as well.
Will it be compatible with rev 2/2.5/3?

Black Sheep · 11-04-2011, 01:36 PM

OpenFlash · 11-04-2011, 01:42 PM

Hi guys,
It's hard to know if the fueling is worked out without being able to crank up boost/hp. And can't do that until the single turbo is done and installed. But yes, i think it is worked out. But can't be sure until I have an appropriate test bed to test it on.

rader1 · 11-04-2011, 01:53 PM

Im sure you cant release any specifics, but can you atleast tell us about what part(s) of the system needed addressing?

OpenFlash · 11-04-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rader1

Im sure you cant release any specifics, but can you atleast tell us about what part(s) of the system needed addressing?

No point in that until everything is tested/confirmed.

shiv

taylors335 · 11-04-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rader1

Im sure you cant release any specifics, but can you atleast tell us about what part(s) of the system needed addressing?

cant test on a car tha doesent run yet , it takes time !

pcockley · 11-04-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Hi guys,
It's hard to know if the fueling is worked out without being able to crank up boost/hp. And can't do that until the single turbo is done and installed. But yes, i think it is worked out. But can't be sure until I have an appropriate test bed to test it on.

Sorry I think I have missed something. I thought the current turbos were restricted in making more power due to a lack of fuel. And if there is a fuel solution then we could make more power with the stock units and those with RB's etc could make a LOT more power

Q4P · 11-04-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pcockley

Sorry I think I have missed something. I thought the current turbos were restricted in making more power due to a lack of fuel. And if there is a fuel solution then we could make more power with the stock units and those with RB's etc could make a LOT more power

This is among the lines that I was thinking... so I am not sure what to think anymore.

Maybe not for the stockers but especially for the RB's.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 11-04-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pcockley

Sorry I think I have missed something. I thought the current turbos were restricted in making more power due to a lack of fuel. And if there is a fuel solution then we could make more power with the stock units and those with RB's etc could make a LOT more power

In the past we thought there was a fuel ceiling at about 450WHP or so however with recent research it seems that ceiling no longer exists.

Where is the new ceiling? Time will tell.

Q4P · 11-04-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

In the past we thought there was a fuel ceiling at about 450WHP or so however with recent research it seems that ceiling no longer exists.

Where is the new ceiling? Time will tell.

So then why is it that the RB's cant be pushed and we need a whole single conversion, apparently they are running quite efficiently now?

Brey335i · 11-04-2011, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Questforpower

So then why is it that the RB's cant be pushed and we need a whole single conversion, apparently they are running quite efficiently now?

Well, for one thing, a big single is capable of producing more power at the same fuel limit as twins. Other than that, there are some theories but nobody seems to know for certain.

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