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      08-17-2023, 03:11 PM   #3609
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Yeah but ,no one wants poisoned fish in a river caused by burning toxic batteries.
No that's some major bad karma. Buy a EV to save the planet, have it burn to the ground and get ticketed for environmental clean-up.
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      08-17-2023, 03:19 PM   #3610
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No that's some major bad karma. Buy a EV to "destroy the planet", have it burn to the ground and get ticketed for environmental clean-up.
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Grab and dump the piece of rubbish thought up by the greenies
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But you do think the article quotes experts claiming there is no evidence the EVs were the cause of the fire aboard Fremantle. The author of the article provides no such quotes from any expert related to the fire aboard Fremantle. As shown in my earlier post, the author attempts to include the boss of the salvage company as part of the cadre of experts referenced in the article, who she says said the cause of the fire was unlikely to be the EVs. The boss of the salvage company who is inferred to be an expert on the subject of the Fremantle fire is not quoted about EV being the cause of the fire. So no experts are quoted in the article regarding the Fremantle fire.

So as I stated, you bought the weasel wording used by the author of the article to convince you experts were quoted about the source of the fire on the ship.
That’s a lot of incorrect inferences. Now how about you try to explain why you are ok with articles implying that EVs are the cause without any evidence? Why do you keep deflecting lol. Because you know you’re caught red handed?
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I think the number of charging piles popularized in North America can make others buy trams, but despite this, gasoline cars also have irreplaceable advantages.
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A honest and engaged Automotive CEO.
Ford's CEO admits to a 'reality check' during F-150 Lightning Route 66 road trip
Ford CEO Jim Farley experienced a common complaint from electric vehicle owners during his cross-country road trip in the automobile maker's electric pickup truck, calling it a "reality check."
Tesla's electric-vehicle charging technology is faster than Ford's causing the car company to partner with the Elon Musk-owned company to make their Supercharger network available to all Ford drivers.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technolo...e-66-road-trip

Elon Musk may have a even better business model with his Supercharger network than Tesla.
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A honest and engaged Automotive CEO.
Ford's CEO admits to a 'reality check' during F-150 Lightning Route 66 road trip

Elon Musk may have a even better business model with his Supercharger network than Tesla.
Yes, I’ve been saying for a while now that I would not be surprised if Tesla stops focusing on building cars and focuses more on charging. That is what sets them apart imo
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yall seriously need to quit your day jobs and become palm readers or psychics. you would probably make more than enough to buy whatever car your heart desires and run explosion testing
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Yes, I’ve been saying for a while now that I would not be surprised if Tesla stops focusing on building cars and focuses more on charging. That is what sets them apart imo
They can easily do both.
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They can easily do both.
Very badly...
There's no progress... cars are the same...chargers are the same stock valuation is half of what it was...serms like terminal decline.
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Very badly...
There's no progress... cars are the same...chargers are the same stock valuation is half of what it was...serms like terminal decline.
Have you taken your short position?

Lost count how many brands are now switching too NACS(Tesla connector). They will own charging infrastructure in US for decades. Their Pre-facbricated Supercharger Units are unmatched and speed at which they can deploy them. Largest and fastest growing dc fast charging network.

No progress.
https://www.motor1.com/news/669135/t...g-car-q1-2023/
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Have you taken your short position?

Lost count how many brands are now switching too NACS(Tesla connector). They will own charging infrastructure in US for decades. Their Pre-facbricated Supercharger Units are unmatched and speed at which they can deploy them. Largest and fastest growing dc fast charging network.

No progress.
https://www.motor1.com/news/669135/t...g-car-q1-2023/
That's predatory behaviour from other manufacturers now that the old fashioned blob cars are toast bar a highland/plaid/cybersuck or whatever. It'll be spun as a tesla success though.
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That's predatory behaviour from other manufacturers now that the old fashioned blob cars are toast bar a highland/plaid/cybersuck or whatever. It'll be spun as a tesla success though.
The predators that lose $32,000 per EV sold.

Those non-Telsa owners will be paying Elon to charge, most likely higher rates. They will gladly pay it because EA is an embarrassment.
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The predators that lose $32,000 per EV sold.

Those non-Telsa owners will be paying Elon to charge, most likely higher rates. They will gladly pay it because EA is an embarrassment.
The joke is on Tesla owners who pay Elon a 40% profit per vehicle sold. Thankfully I haven't enriched his coffers by buying one of those shapeless formless generic rides. Most people with half a brain and a wallet would be charging @ home anyway.
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The joke is on Tesla owners who pay Elon a 40% profit per vehicle sold. Thankfully I haven't enriched his coffers by buying one of those shapeless formless generic rides. Most people with half a brain and a wallet would be charging @ home anyway.
That's right and take the gas car on holidays/longer journeys.
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Let's stay on topic...

Just point to the text in the article where you think there are quotes from experts that make any claims about the Fire aboard the Fremantle.

I'll wait...
I’d rather point out your hypocrisy and obvious lack of self awareness

You really can’t admit to yourself that you’ve been easily fooled by the propaganda
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I’d rather point out your hypocrisy and obvious lack of self awareness
You really can’t admit to yourself that you’ve been easily fooled by the propaganda
Pot, meet Kettle
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Lame response, Dude. LOL.

Just point to the text like I asked.
Lol, you’re very confused. This isn’t a debate. You’ve proven yourself to be either intellectually dishonest or incapable of holding a good faith debate. I’m just here to call you out on your hypocrisy
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Pot, meet Kettle
Who invited the trash can to the discussion
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Elton Musk never passes up a government teat to suckle.

Tesla to open U.S. charging network to rivals in $7.5 billion federal program
The move could help turn Tesla into the universal "filling station" of the EV era - and risk eroding a competitive edge for vehicles made by the company, which has exclusive access to the biggest network of high-speed Superchargers in the United States.
In response, Tesla Chief Executive Musk said, "Thank you, Tesla is happy to support other EVs via our Supercharger network."
https://www.reuters.com/technology/t...se-2023-02-15/


Imagine, if you will, Exxon being paid US tax payer money to expand their gas stations?
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Tesla has far more why has Tesla not rolled out a new Model S and Model X (the chassis is 14 years old now) and restyled the Model 3 and Model Y?
Because sheep will buy almost anything..why change the production line when it's selling....
I just don't see how the other manufacturers camping out on the Tesla charging network is going to work in the long term. One has to assume Tesla owners get priority on the network. The beauty of the Tesla charging system is the network integration with Tesla's navigation apps. The Tesla system manages all the charging requirements of its fleet because of the integration. Outside users have to fill in the empty spots not designated for a Tesla car, which is just a guess to find an open charger. Tesla's charging network coverage is still not plentiful in the middle of the USA.
The chargers that are open to all have no priority basis for Tesla. I don't have a Tesla but I can see where non teslas are allowed and how many spaces are open. I have attached a screenshot taken now with London as an example location Bottom line is most are vacant and probably losing money so decision to open them to all may pay for maintence cost etc.
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