Sharkedit (Shark Injector) tuner from Jim C. ($299 and details)

e90AW335i · 05-06-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stressdoc

(1) as I read it, Kyle was interested in being a provider of tunes. He gets a site license and can inject a program (from Conforti or whomever) into your DME. He has no intention of cooking up his own programs.

+1

flukey · 05-06-2008, 02:19 PM

i can't wait for this product but i keep thinking in my head...

if this product works as its suppose to (ie. undetectable), the 335 E9X used car market is about to become extinct.

ps. invest in mitsubishi... i can see their revenues increasing in the near term :P

ezatnova · 05-06-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 5soko335i

lmaf0o i was thinking the same thing... but this Shark system doesnt work with the new DME v81 or new software v29.2 yet does it.

No reason why this won't work with V29.2 right?

e.n335 · 05-06-2008, 02:41 PM

Currently it does not support the v81 DME. Shark Edit will support v81. I don't know where you got the information about ProgMan 29.2.

Dr_Dirt · 05-06-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by flukey

i can't wait for this product but i keep thinking in my head...

if this product works as its suppose to (ie. undetectable), the 335 E9X used car market is about to become extinct.

ps. invest in mitsubishi... i can see their revenues increasing in the near term :P

Actually the used car market for the 335 should be awesome if its anything compared to the 3000GT VR4's. Although the Supra is a better comparison because they share the inline 6...
I sold my 93 VR4 last year for 15K

and I paid 20K for it in 1997
We have only scratched the surface of the aftermarket tuning for these cars.
The tuning capabilities make the 335 more valuable not less...

e.n335 · 05-06-2008, 03:08 PM

Tuners should be clever now. They can prepare themselves to be able to offer a good datalogging / code clearing solution and know about the Shark as good as possible to provide custom tunes over the internet and be able to develop maps for the Shark system. I'm pretty sure everybody would pay US$200 for a standard and up to US$500 for a custom tuned map.

In short, tuners should support the Shark solution rather to try to ignore it.

My 2 cents.

ezatnova · 05-06-2008, 04:10 PM

When can we get our hands on AW's custom tunes and how much will they be? Dynos? HP/TQ? Boost levels?

e90AW335i · 05-06-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ezatnova

When can we get our hands on AW's custom tunes and how much will they be? Dynos? HP/TQ? Boost levels?

$1395 and I will install them for you....

Calgary Agent · 05-06-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

$1395 and I will install them for you....

Will you be offering a 2 year warranty (similar to Dinan)?

ezatnova · 05-06-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by e.n335

Currently it does not support the v81 DME. Shark Edit will support v81. I don't know where you got the information about ProgMan 29.2.

It wasn't ME saying anything about 29.2, it was 5soko335i. That's why I asked HIM where he got any inclination that 29.2 would matter at all.
That said, I guess we don't know for 100% sure, but, I just CAN NOT FATHOM that Jim C would put this thing out only to have it not work flawlessley with Progman 29.2 which everyone will eventually have in the near future (i.e. ME who is going in for service next Tuesday...I imagine I'll be a fine new 29.2 recipient

)

e90AW335i · 05-06-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Calgary Agent

Will you be offering a 2 year warranty (similar to Dinan)?

Nope, but I will give you a badge....

judec · 05-06-2008, 04:30 PM

yeah yeah, a nice big shiny colorful sticker like "e90AW335i tuning, powered by Shark Stuff"

e90AW335i · 05-06-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by judec

yeah yeah, a nice big shiny colorful sticker like "e90AW335i tuning, powered by Shark Stuff"

Yep. But no stickers, it will be gold spray paint and a stencil....

T Bone · 05-06-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

Yep. But no stickers, it will be gold spray paint and a stencil....

I was thinking pink hearts within a rainbow flag.

Kinda like o'Glory except the stars are pink hears and the stripes are rainbow colored. Here is a concept sticker.....

Cheers bud!

BoostedBMW · 05-06-2008, 04:45 PM

You guys make like this is the first car to ever have a custom tuning interface for it. Think of the dozens of other cars that have standalones or piggybacks available that you can custom tune however you want. If you are stupid enough to attempt to tune your car without knowing how to do so then you deserve to throw a rod.

When I turbo'd my last car I went with an AEM EMS with a base map that was setup for a NA car. I did a ton of research and was able to configure some minor settings (ie. startup tables/idle/fuel table so that it would be extremely rich under boost across the board) just to get the car driveable to the tuner with some safety in case I did boost the car accidentally. I had/have an understanding of what goes into tuning a car, but I don't have the experience or the money to gamble on learning with my own car so I leave that to professionals. BTW, after spending $700 on a "professional tuner" with dyno time I ended up having to still figure out how to get my car to idle and start up under cold/hot conditions on my own. So, many so called professional tuners are by no means all knowing. The moral to the story is that its not rocket science, but if you don't know what you are doing then that should be clear to you. I don't think anyone has anything to worry about as far as people tuning their own cars and blowing them up. These products are available for many different platforms and I very rarely hear of an idiot who tried to tune his own car without any knowledge or experience and blew it up.

e90AW335i · 05-06-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by T Bone

I was thinking pink hearts within a rainbow flag.

Kinda like o'Glory except the stars are pink hears and the stripes are rainbow colored.

That would be FABULOUS.....

5soko · 05-06-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BoostedBMW

You guys make like this is the first car to ever have a custom tuning interface for it. Think of the dozens of other cars that have standalones or piggybacks available that you can custom tune however you want. If you are stupid enough to attempt to tune your car without knowing how to do so then you deserve to throw a rod.

When I turbo'd my last car I went with an AEM EMS with a base map that was setup for a NA car. I did a ton of research and was able to configure some minor settings (ie. startup tables/idle/fuel table so that it would be extremely rich under boost across the board) just to get the car driveable to the tuner with some safety in case I did boost the car accidentally. I had/have an understanding of what goes into tuning a car, but I don't have the experience or the money to gamble on learning with my own car so I leave that to professionals. BTW, after spending $700 on a "professional tuner" with dyno time I ended up having to still figure out how to get my car to idle and start up under cold/hot conditions on my own. So, many so called professional tuners are by no means all knowing. The moral to the story is that its not rocket science, but if you don't know what you are doing then that should be clear to you. I don't think anyone has anything to worry about as far as people tuning their own cars and blowing them up. These products are available for many different platforms and I very rarely hear of an idiot who tried to tune his own car without any knowledge or experience and blew it up.

someone is out there... thank you for this post.

smdandb2 · 05-06-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by e.n335

Currently it does not support the v81 DME. Shark Edit will support v81. I don't know where you got the information about ProgMan 29.2.

Umm, not at initial release it wont.

MSD81 is not cracked yet.

0002s · 05-06-2008, 08:21 PM

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r10apple · 05-06-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by anonemouse

Since Jim C. has managed to get control of the PFLASH memory bank in the DME to get his version of software on it, copying logging information out of the two 2 64Kb data flash memories is simple. When the shark injector reflashes the original image, it can restore the logging data. Its really untraceable from what I have gathered from DME processor specs. There are no magic flash counters giving away the original image has been replaced and restored.

What I am curious about and I am sure we may never know is how he got the 64 bit password required to write to the flash banks, this is what makes the reflashing possible.

A.

I'd like to know if this is true...I was talking to an expert from Ford on a rollover case I have and just threw this out there and he seemed to give me a similar impression...

Or, we could continue to ignore this and discuss some guy named Kyle who continues to apparently offer his tuning service...

e90AW335i · 05-06-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by r10apple

Or, we could continue to ignore this and discuss some guy named Kyle who continues to apparently offer his tuning service...

LOL......My tuning rocks....

lawdude · 05-06-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

LOL......My tuning rocks....

Careful Kyle. There are many around here who won't know what you're talking about unless you spell it "tunning".

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flukey Go big or go home! 54 Rep 948 Posts Drives: E90 335xi Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Iowa iTrader: (9)	i can't wait for this product but i keep thinking in my head... if this product works as its suppose to (ie. undetectable), the 335 E9X used car market is about to become extinct. ps. invest in mitsubishi... i can see their revenues increasing in the near term :P
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e.n335 Moderator 282 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	Currently it does not support the v81 DME. Shark Edit will support v81. I don't know where you got the information about ProgMan 29.2.
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e.n335 Moderator 282 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	Tuners should be clever now. They can prepare themselves to be able to offer a good datalogging / code clearing solution and know about the Shark as good as possible to provide custom tunes over the internet and be able to develop maps for the Shark system. I'm pretty sure everybody would pay US$200 for a standard and up to US$500 for a custom tuned map. In short, tuners should support the Shark solution rather to try to ignore it. My 2 cents.
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BoostedBMW Moderator 134 Rep 6,775 Posts Drives: TiAg E92 335 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (14) Garage List 2003 S2000 [0.00]	You guys make like this is the first car to ever have a custom tuning interface for it. Think of the dozens of other cars that have standalones or piggybacks available that you can custom tune however you want. If you are stupid enough to attempt to tune your car without knowing how to do so then you deserve to throw a rod. When I turbo'd my last car I went with an AEM EMS with a base map that was setup for a NA car. I did a ton of research and was able to configure some minor settings (ie. startup tables/idle/fuel table so that it would be extremely rich under boost across the board) just to get the car driveable to the tuner with some safety in case I did boost the car accidentally. I had/have an understanding of what goes into tuning a car, but I don't have the experience or the money to gamble on learning with my own car so I leave that to professionals. BTW, after spending $700 on a "professional tuner" with dyno time I ended up having to still figure out how to get my car to idle and start up under cold/hot conditions on my own. So, many so called professional tuners are by no means all knowing. The moral to the story is that its not rocket science, but if you don't know what you are doing then that should be clear to you. I don't think anyone has anything to worry about as far as people tuning their own cars and blowing them up. These products are available for many different platforms and I very rarely hear of an idiot who tried to tune his own car without any knowledge or experience and blew it up. __________________ -Michael. Berlina Black S2000 CR is now in the garage l 19" Rial Daytona Race l KW V2 l Eisenhaus Race Exhaust l
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