[Daya]

Originally Posted by sleepyx637

Same here on e92 335i

are you looking at the angel eyes dead on? When you look at them this way both rings are completely lit, from an angle the ring may appear to be incomplete but this is due to the design of the AE itself, not the light. The OEM light would look incomplete from some angles as well.

[sleepyx637]

Originally Posted by Daya

are you looking at the angel eyes dead on? When you look at them this way both rings are completely lit, from an angle the ring may appear to be incomplete but this is due to the design of the AE itself, not the light. The OEM light would look incomplete from some angles as well.

I believe I'm looking at them dead on (one headlight at a time), but will double check. They're both lit, just not evenly it appears. When I position myself at an angle for the outer ring looks evenly lit, the inner ring seems to be noticeably less evenly lit. I'll take another look after work.

[sleepyx637]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

MDS82 - Any comments on the posts above about the positioning of the LED and the uneven look on my LCI headlights? I thought I remember reading you saying that theres something different about the LCI's where it makes both rings look just as bright but this isn't the case on my car. Doesn't matter if its head on or to the side. Hard to capture in pics.

Here's a pic after install.


The color is perfect imo....just wish they were actually brighter and more even. Makes me wonder if the led placement on my set was off maybe?

Alan

I think that's how it always looks from an angle. That's how my e92 looks, and i think other people have posted pictures of e90 headlights looking like that from an angle too.

[Alan l.]

On my LCI even head on without the hid's on...the inner rings are brighter and not completely even. Not a huge difference but you can see certain areas that just look a tad brighter. The outer ring def. isn't as bright no matter what angle you look at them.

During the install I made note of where the stock bulb was and there is really only one way to install this so install error isn't in question. I made sure i twisted the bulb all the way until it couldn't turn anymore.....actually cut my finger doing that because the metal heat sink was somewhat sharp and on my set one of the bulb was extremely tight fit. I actually have to find a pair of pliers to be able to turn the lux unit at all.

I'm happy with the purchase but I just want to make sure this is the best they could look for amount of the money i shelled out for some leds and heat sink.

Alan

[mds82]

So responding to the evenness that everyone is talking about.

where to start....

first for the outer ring, you need to view the ring straight on in order to see it properly. The ring itself is completely round except in the back it has grooves where the light escapes. the groves are only visible when looking straight on due to the refraction of the glass while looking through the ring

The inner ring - the design of the OEM reflector is oval shaped which serves 2 purposes - the concentrate some light into the outer angel eyes, and also to reflect the light out to the inner angel eyes. The whole reflector has a central focal point which is the center of it, which is where the bulb filament would normally go. with the LED replacement, they were positioned to maximize the light going into the outer ring. Also, because these LED's have a 110 degree viewing angle, enough spill light is able to bounce around and project forward, filling the inner ring almost perfectly.
There will be a bit of a small hot spot of light , and this is unavoidable.

Looking at the inner ring from a distance it is nearly impossible to see any differences in the light output though.

Originally Posted by Alan l.

The color is perfect imo....just wish they were actually brighter and more even. Makes me wonder if the led placement on my set was off maybe?

Alan

All of the kits were made identical, so the placement of the LED Itself is correct.

[namotorsports]

5 sets of lights coming in next week. Follow the link below to pre-order!

http://www.namotorsports.net/detail....rt_cd/MDSLUXH8 - MDS LUX H8 Rings for E92/E93 BMW 3 Series, E90/E92/E93 BMW M3 and E90 BMW 3 Series (LCI) - $224.99 plus shipping

[SCtud]

Thanks for the reply Marc. The "hot spot" on the inner ring is a little annoying since it has some parts of the ring that are quite brighter than the rest of the ring - would like to know if other people are seeing that same effect. As I mentioned before, one of my bulbs appears to have the LEDs facing the wrong direction, but that appears to basically have little impact on how the rings are lit (I assume because almost all the light ends up getting reflected to the right spots anyway). It might actually be lighting the rings more evenly than the other, or maybe I am just imagining it. I will upload some pictures later.

[mds82]

Originally Posted by SCtud

Thanks for the reply Marc. The "hot spot" on the inner ring is a little annoying since it has some parts of the ring that are quite brighter than the rest of the ring - would like to know if other people are seeing that same effect. As I mentioned before, one of my bulbs appears to have the LEDs facing the wrong direction, but that appears to basically have little impact on how the rings are lit (I assume because almost all the light ends up getting reflected to the right spots anyway). It might actually be lighting the rings more evenly than the other, or maybe I am just imagining it. I will upload some pictures later.

lets just try and meet up instead of trying to talk about this over IM, i think we can get this resolved much faster that way. Can you respond to my PM that i had sent to you about when your going to be free. Thanks

[sleepyx637]

Originally Posted by SCtud

Thanks for the reply Marc. The "hot spot" on the inner ring is a little annoying since it has some parts of the ring that are quite brighter than the rest of the ring - would like to know if other people are seeing that same effect. As I mentioned before, one of my bulbs appears to have the LEDs facing the wrong direction, but that appears to basically have little impact on how the rings are lit (I assume because almost all the light ends up getting reflected to the right spots anyway). It might actually be lighting the rings more evenly than the other, or maybe I am just imagining it. I will upload some pictures later.

Please upload pics when you can. I'm seeing a similar effect with my inner ring (a couple "hot" spots and a couple dimmer spots)

[Alan l.]

Has anyone tried rotating the bulb away from it's max position to see if it changes anything?? I would try to do it with mines but my injen intake is in the way and my bulbs were tight as hell to even twist.

[mds82]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Has anyone tried rotating the bulb away from it's max position to see if it changes anything?? I would try to do it with mines but my injen intake is in the way and my bulbs were tight as hell to even twist.

The LED's were specially designed to be angled the way they are, so rotating them will actually make the outer ring not as bright - Trust me, i spend days upon days working with these to make them look the best as possible.

[dave909n]

Originally Posted by dave909n

I just got mine today and put them in. Are they supposed to flicker like crazy when I turn the car on, for like 15 seconds? It's a 01/08 build with no modifications done to it. It's very annoying and I'm this close to taking them out and getting rid of them.

FYI, I've fixed this problem by running a capacitor and resistor in parallel with the circuit. The lights no longer flicker when I turn them on but they actually fade a little bit now. Using a larger cap should allow it to fade more so I may play with that later.


The only other gripe that I have is that the LUX H8 color doesn't match the factory HID headlights. The 6000K LUX color looks too blue compared to the 4300K factory HID headlight bulbs. I wish the LUX H8 bulbs were more of a 4300K or 5000K so it was more white and blue looking. I think I'm going to get the AiB's and test them in comparason and then sell my LUX, since those are more white looking.

[mds82]

Originally Posted by dave909n

FYI, I've fixed this problem by running a capacitor and resistor in parallel with the circuit. The lights no longer flicker when I turn them on but they actually fade a little bit now. Using a larger cap should allow it to fade more so I may play with that later.


The only other gripe that I have is that the LUX H8 color doesn't match the factory HID headlights. The 6000K LUX color looks too blue compared to the 4300K factory HID headlight bulbs. I wish the LUX H8 bulbs were more of a 4300K or 5000K so it was more white and blue looking. I think I'm going to get the AiB's and test them in comparason and then sell my LUX, since those are more white looking.

I would recommend Against doing that... Putting a capacitor in paralled with the power supply could cause problems. These power supplies have been Carefully selected and custom built to accomidate the power needs of the car. Putting an extra Cap in place will most likely cause error messages in the car's system. As well, when the headlights are on, you may receive dimming or other problems.

That said, i would Not recomend this for anyone.

Also - with the color - if you use a warmer color LED it will appear to be more of a yellow/green color. the Xenon Aspherical lens can appear to be blue when viewed from certain angles, so that is why the 6000k color of these LED's was chosen.

BMW uses a CANBUS system to test the bulbs on the exterior of the car when starting. the car pulses power to the bulbs to check for shorts, so it is Normal that LED bulbs will flicker for a few seconds. All LED Exterior bulbs on a E90 will flicker on startup, and this is 100% normal.

[SlammedR8]

Originally Posted by dave909n

The only other gripe that I have is that the LUX H8 color doesn't match the factory HID headlights. The 6000K LUX color looks too blue compared to the 4300K factory HID headlight bulbs. I wish the LUX H8 bulbs were more of a 4300K or 5000K so it was more white and blue looking. I think I'm going to get the AiB's and test them in comparason and then sell my LUX, since those are more white looking.

funny that you think they're too bluish. Because I have 8000k headlights, and the LUX is almost yellow next to them (during the day mostly). I would switch to 6000k or 8000k headlights before taking out the Lux. Besides...have you read about the AIBs and the crazy problems that a lot of people have run into.

[Alan l.]

Strange I don't notice any flickering with my Lci e90 at all. I need to have someone check for me when i start the car.

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by dave909n

The only other gripe that I have is that the LUX H8 color doesn't match the factory HID headlights. The 6000K LUX color looks too blue compared to the 4300K factory HID headlight bulbs. I wish the LUX H8 bulbs were more of a 4300K or 5000K so it was more white and blue looking. I think I'm going to get the AiB's and test them in comparason and then sell my LUX, since those are more white looking.

I guess one man's gripe is another man's satisfaction...I'm happy to hear that the LUX has some blue. I had a preconceived notion was that they were completely white.

[SCtud]

I took some pictures - you can see that one one side, the led faces straight up and down, while the other faces left and right. You can also see in the front picture of the whole car, that it doesn't seem to make that much difference.

It is pretty difficult to capture the hotspots or uneven lighting. In the side view, you can see that on most of the inner ring, you can see the grooves, but on the bottom left and bottom right of the ring, it blurs a bit because it is brighter there (a hot spot). I am presuming this is simply because of the design of the angel eyes and this will happen with all bulb replacement solutions that are shining a much higher lumen output into the assemblies.

It still looks great and I am quite happy with them (the color is bluer than many have posted, which I prefer) - I just want to make sure this is how they are supposed to be since no one has really mentioned this anywhere before.

[leemik]

Originally Posted by slammedm3

funny that you think they're too bluish. Because I have 8000k headlights, and the LUX is almost yellow next to them (during the day mostly). I would switch to 6000k or 8000k headlights before taking out the Lux. Besides...have you read about the AIBs and the crazy problems that a lot of people have run into.

werd.. i came from RD LEDs and GP Thunders.. Theses LUX H8's are definately the whitest and brightest I've had on the car.. and it's like $100 cheaper than the AiBs

as long as they last the lifetime of the car, I'm a very satisfied customer here...

--mike

[mds82]

Originally Posted by SCtud

I took some pictures - you can see that one one side, the led faces straight up and down, while the other faces left and right. You can also see in the front picture of the whole car, that it doesn't seem to make that much difference.

It is pretty difficult to capture the hotspots or uneven lighting. In the side view, you can see that on most of the inner ring, you can see the grooves, but on the bottom left and bottom right of the ring, it blurs a bit because it is brighter there (a hot spot). I am presuming this is simply because of the design of the angel eyes and this will happen with all bulb replacement solutions that are shining a much higher lumen output into the assemblies.

It still looks great and I am quite happy with them (the color is bluer than many have posted, which I prefer) - I just want to make sure this is how they are supposed to be since no one has really mentioned this anywhere before.

From the 1st pic, it does look correct actually. the LED's face a few degrees away from the tips of the angel eyes, and that actually makes them much brighter that way. So yes, those are installed correct

[sidekick96]

Are the mtec 4350K H8 65w bulbs for foglights still a perfect match with these new lux's, i have a 2010 e92.

[Alan l.]

2009.5 LCI

installed for about a week with no error code, no flickering.

Today I had the lights set on manual on since it was raining for half a day with no issues but out of the blue the car gave out an error day time running light out. Got out ofthe car and the lights were still on and by the time I got back in the car the warning was gone.

Alan

[zellex]

Can anyone confirm that these are brighter than RD's?

Are they also day-light visible?

For LCI e90, do you guys rotate the bulb in the same direction both ways? Like, for the passenger side + driver's side, do you rotate clockwise for both of them?