[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by RobBeck

Mike,

The Compressor inducer on the RBs is 42mm.

The RBs Turbine Exducer is 2mm bigger than the OEM Turbines Inducer. Them OEM Turbine wheel will fall completely through the RB Bore.

Hmm weird.. I read somewhere that the inlet of the turbo was machined to 1.625" which is 41.2mm for the housing.. that should make the wheel in the 39mm range.. Maybe some misinformation also..

Mike

[Rob@RBTurbo]

Yeah, some of that stuff is very old. Housing is machined to ~42.6mm. Actually alot of the pics posted above are very old too.

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

Hmm weird.. I read somewhere that the inlet of the turbo was machined to 1.625" which is 41.2mm for the housing.. that should make the wheel in the 39mm range.. Maybe some misinformation also..

Mike

[BrianMN]

Originally Posted by RobBeck

Yeah, some of that stuff is very old. Housing is machined to ~42.6mm.

Is there any worry over the [very thin] housing being too thin or weak?

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by RobBeck

Yeah, some of that stuff is very old. Housing is machined to ~42.6mm. Actually alot of the pics posted above are very old too.

Good to know..

Mike

[Rob@RBTurbo]

Cross sectioning shows a ton of material available aside on the inlet snout. Nothing to worry about on the inlet snout, but I am sure if you wanted to drop it off a building or beat it with a hammer it would not sustain the abuse say an OEM housing would.

Originally Posted by BrianMN

Is there any worry over the [very thin] housing being too thin or weak?

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

I understand 100%.. its not worth it for you.. So please find a thread to comment in that seems that it is more worth it for you.. Take care

Mike

Dude make your own website if you dont want others posting in your threads. This is comparing what you have to what I have. How am I doing anything wrong? I am in the market for buying turbos unlike half of those posting on YOUR thread. Sorry for trying to make a real world comparison.

Originally Posted by BrianMN

Hahahahaha YOU are talking about justifying power for the money?

You must be crazy to think you could safely come close to 450hp/475tq with 18-19psi and meth. I didn't see-what were your baselines? Those numbers seem quite high for 16psi and no meth without the new V5 maps (post-12-17).

In any case, upgraded turbos are going to be a huge power to money modification after a tune. The best thing about them is how "safely" they can make the power, which is important to nearly everyone. If you really want more power for little money, go with nitrous!!

Dude Im talking about turbo upgrades and the power for the money here. Im not trying to bash, what the hell is the point of a forum if you cant debate about stuff. WTF, did you not see the baseline in red. That was a BONE stock 335i, actually its the owners of the shop car. Mach V Motorsports. What did you miss about about that? I am as safe as it comes when you talk about building a car. I wouldnt do 18-19psi with meth on stockers but I know a few that do. Please dude dont try that shit with me, I have an OCC and a 2nd oil cooler. Running Motul 5w30(made for high heat apps) change my oil every 3-4k. Im just stating that for the money, these dynos dont show it favorable enough for ME to buy them.

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Penn999

Dude make your own website if you dont want others posting in your threads. This is comparing what you have to what I have. How am I doing anything wrong? I am in the market for buying turbos unlike half of those posting on YOUR thread. Sorry for trying to make a real world comparison.


Dude Im talking about turbo upgrades and the power for the money here. Im not trying to bash, what the hell is the point of a forum if you cant debate about stuff. WTF, did you not see the baseline in red. That was a BONE stock 335i, actually its the owners of the shop car. Mach V Motorsports. What did you miss about about that? I am as safe as it comes when you talk about building a car. I wouldnt do 18-19psi with meth on stockers but I know a few that do. Please dude dont try that shit with me, I have an OCC and a 2nd oil cooler. Running Motul 5w30(made for high heat apps) change my oil every 3-4k. Im just stating that for the money, these dynos dont show it favorable enough for ME to buy them.

Originally Posted by Penn999

FOR ROUGHLY $4K!! Sorry man, thats not worth it for me.

Your comments above lead me to believe your NOT interested in the turbos because i think you made it clear for the $$ your happy with the stockers and ours dont show the gains you want.. again last i checked 3400 installed was closer to 3k than 4k.. better yet install them yourself with a buddy and you will only pay 2400 for them and maybe a case of beer and pizza for your friends help..

You can continue to post buddy its fine by me.. I dont need to make my own forum but i also dont have to reply to your constant questions that are clearly made to stir the pot.. Im not the only one who sees it i have a PM box full of people who agree as well.. I think i have provided enough accurate info for everyone to decide whether they want these or do not.. sit back and wait for more results from the customer purchasing these every week.. Take care..

Mike

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by BrianMN

What a joke. This is the guy that just bought 3" straight pipe for $2k, and who is going to spend $15k for the HPP single turbo kit making wayyyy more power. And waving as he blows by you.

Different strokes I guess...

You forget that I already have an exhaust that im selling for 800 or so, its a sunk cost, so it costs less to me, its design, acoustics, and flow rates for future power, also the vibration dampening system is a huge key in my purchase here. I dont expect much in terms of gains. You are correct, to each his own. I like TOP quality and efficiency, costs comes later. As far as these turbos go, it just doesnt fit what im looking for as far as power is concerned, they look to be top quality. Im looking for a lot more power from upgraded turbos. Lost Marine power...

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Penn999

You forget that I already have an exhaust that im selling for 800 or so, its a sunk cost, so it costs less to me, its design, acoustics, and flow rates for future power, also the vibration dampening system is a huge key in my purchase here. I dont expect much in terms of gains. You are correct, to each his own. I like TOP quality and efficiency, costs comes later. As far as these turbos go, it just doesnt fit what im looking for as far as power is concerned, they look to be top quality. Im looking for a lot more power from upgraded turbos. Lost Marine power...

I think you knew these were not for you long before the 30 comments you made today but if i kept you entertained its all that matters.. it keeps my thread on top every time someone replies..

There is no 1 turbo thats fits all so i think you said it best.. they dont fit what your looking for.. Im sure youll find what it is you want.. good luck..

Mike

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

Your comments above lead me to believe your NOT interested in the turbos because i think you made it clear for the $$ your happy with the stockers and ours dont show the gains you want.. again last i checked 3400 installed was closer to 3k than 4k.. better yet install them yourself with a buddy and you will only pay 2400 for them and maybe a case of beer and pizza for your friends help..

You can continue to post buddy its fine by me.. I dont need to make my own forum but i also dont have to reply to your constant questions that are clearly made to stir the pot.. Im not the only one who sees it i have a PM box full of people who agree as well.. I think i have provided enough accurate info for everyone to decide whether they want these or do not.. sit back and wait for more results from the customer purchasing these every week.. Take care..

Mike

I really was considering buying these turbos, you can reference my first couple of post when the thread originated. So my intentions were not to stir up the pot, it was to debate which turbos I am going to buy! I was quoted at 12-14hrs for labor, at 90 to 100 and hour. How much are the turbos. 2400 right? Sorry I was off a little but where I can get them installed it will be closer to 3600-3800. I dont doubt people will buy these, they look very nice, just not the numbers I was hoping for. I was looking for answers, I got um. Thanks Im sorry, I wont post here anymore. Good luck with your turbos.

[BrianMN]

Originally Posted by Penn999

Dude Im talking about turbo upgrades and the power for the money here. Im not trying to bash, what the hell is the point of a forum if you cant debate about stuff. WTF, did you not see the baseline in red. That was a BONE stock 335i, actually its the owners of the shop car. Mach V Motorsports. What did you miss about about that? I am as safe as it comes when you talk about building a car. I wouldnt do 18-19psi with meth on stockers but I know a few that do. Please dude dont try that shit with me, I have an OCC and a 2nd oil cooler. Running Motul 5w30(made for high heat apps) change my oil every 3-4k. Im just stating that for the money, these dynos dont show it favorable enough for ME to buy them.

I meant to ask if you had a datalog for the dyno runs...as 445tq/400hp seems obnoxiously high for 16psi. It'd be nice to see the baseline with your car, but not a big deal.

That's really cool you have a OCC and 2nd oil cooler and you run Motul oil made for high heat apps that you change every 3-4k...but that's not relevant for the current safety content being discussed, just maintenance.

[BrianMN]

And it will be very helpful when more people bring their results. Hopefully they will be getting before/after dynos and datalogs.

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Penn999

I really was considering buying these turbos, you can reference my first couple of post when the thread originated. So my intentions were not to stir up the pot, it was to debate which turbos I am going to buy! I was quoted at 12-14hrs for labor, at 90 to 100 and hour. How much are the turbos. 2400 right? Sorry I was off a little but where I can get them installed it will be closer to 3600-3800. I dont doubt people will buy these, they look very nice, just not the numbers I was hoping for. I was looking for answers, I got um. Thanks Im sorry, I wont post here anymore. Good luck with your turbos.

Its funny though because now you have made up your mind and you have only seen results on 1 car.. Since you lead everyone to believe your studying all these setups to decide what path to take why dont you take this into consideration.. What if, just what if, this 1 car we used to test on was built on a friday and is down on power or not a strong setup?? What if the compression is down?? do we know if this is what they will make at the end of the day on every car?? NO we dont.. maybe someone is going to post 480whp on 18psi on a different setup.. I dont know, you dont know, nobody knows.. so why not sit tight and wait for some results from some unbiased members.. Sounds like a good idea to me.. you think so???

Mike

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by BrianMN

I meant to ask if you had a datalog for the dyno runs...as 445tq/400hp seems obnoxiously high for 16psi. It'd be nice to see the baseline with your car, but not a big deal.

That's really cool you have a OCC and 2nd oil cooler and you run Motul oil made for high heat apps that you change every 3-4k...but that's not relevant for the current safety content being discussed, just maintenance.

I wasnt going to say anything but id like to see the boost logs as well because TQ is related directly to boost.. the more boost you run the more TQ spikes.. Now smaller turbos do tend to spike more boost than larger ones but id like to see a log as well just to confirm the accuracy.. Penn you got anything??

Mike

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by BrianMN

And it will be very helpful when more people bring their results. Hopefully they will be getting before/after dynos and datalogs.

I have asked everyone that got in on the special pricing to PLEASE do before and after results for me.. Hopefully everyone follows thru and we can get some more info.. Im willing to bet cars in better climates than FL are going to make even more power this winter..

Mike

[scottp999]

These look great. Can't wait to see more results. 2000 miles round trip for an install for me though. My sisters is about half way, but hopefully some of these early customers will let us know where they got the install done.

[Penn999]

HAHA you both are gonna shit when I post the logs, I will make sure to show you that you are wrong. One if you doubt me I will ask Dan to chime in that dyno'd the car. And 2, I will do some more runs on Sat. Baseline on MY car and with 16psi, I love haters cause its soooo much more fun when you prove um wrong. I cant boost higher than the default settings on the Procede, did you miss that post? Im not running meth, much over 16psi is retarded without meth. Please stay tuned. I will make my own thread so I dont post in this one anymore. Thanks and stay tuned!

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Penn999

HAHA you both are gonna shit when I post the logs, I will make sure to show you that you are wrong. One if you doubt me I will ask Dan to chime in that dyno'd the car. And 2, I will do some more runs on Sat. Baseline on MY car and with 16psi, I love haters cause its soooo much more fun when you prove um wrong. I cant boost higher than the default settings on the Procede, did you miss that post? Im not running meth, much over 16psi is retarded without meth. Please stay tuned. I will make my own thread so I dont post in this one anymore. Thanks and stay tuned!

Think about 1 thing.. Your car is such a "monster" on stock turbos just imagine you MIGHT make much better #'s than our test car...

Nobody is hating buddy.. nobody is bashing... nobody is going to shit when we see the logs dont pat yourself so hard on the back.. anyone who has to say over and over again that " they are not bashing " is probably bashing.. Please make a new thread so this one is not derailed.. I dint say anything about the TQ myself because i honestly dont care.. I know what i have to offer the community with these turbos and they will sell whether you buy them or someone elses doesnt matter to me.. Take it easy..

[itsbrokeagain]

Im going to side with Mike on that one...$2400 for these turbos isnt a bad price at all..EPL units were around the same price.

Labor is average $1000-1200 depending on rates plus parts, so $3400 is a great price.

[shockin330i]

Lol, Penn still hasn't been banned yet? this dude is a tool....

[chris b.]

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by shockin330i

Lol, Penn still hasn't been banned yet? this dude is a tool....

Its sucks having less power huh?