[Esteban]

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[CarsAndGuitars]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Again, your games stop at random times, injury time is not confusing. At 45 and 90 mins the ref notes added time for injuries and rolling about, then pretty much sticks to it. There's a clock top left of screen that shows he countdown.

Not sure of the confusion.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/2022-...ng-elimination

"As soon as the final whistle was blown, players from Uruguay’s bench swarmed the referees as they attempted to exit the pitch.

Players were seen physically grabbing at the officials, with at least one yellow card being handed out."

so in soccer, you can receive a penalty *after* the game (match) is over? Tell me again, if the game ends at the referee's discretion and can still be penalized after the clock expires, what is the clock for?

Honestly, my interest in soccer ended when my daughter's HS varsity career ended ~7-8 years ago

[infinitekidM2C]

If you cant handle a little extra time added to the end of the halves, then just forget it. Aint for you.
Happens every fecking soccer game. jeez.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by CarsAndGuitars

so in soccer, you can receive a penalty *after* the game (match) is over? Tell me again, if the game ends at the referee's discretion and can still be penalized after the clock expires, what is the clock for?

Honestly, my interest in soccer ended when my daughter's HS varsity career ended ~7-8 years ago

How's that any weirder than the last 5 minutes of a basketball game taking well over half an hour because of professional fouls?

[Admiral]

You don't understand soccer as you call it, we call it football, what the hell is going on with all those dudes dressed as if they are about to jump on a motorbike with helmets and god knows what else that you call American Football, are there any rules or is it a free for all punch up. I have tried to understand the game but I have given up the will to live by trying to understand it, soccer as you call it has Extra Time, how long does your game take with all the down time, I only watch it now when the Girlies are doing their stuff

[JMcLellan]

I'm 100% a soccer idiot as I didn't grow up playing it or watching it. I grew up playing golf, baseball, and watched a ton of baseball and football.

Maybe I am being dense but I can't wrap my head around the game ending at a non-transparent subjective time. I understand the extra time added since the clock rolls through the game and there needs to be an accounting for injuries, substitutions, etc-- totally clear on that. As a viewer not seeing when the game will end is something I can't wrap my head around.

[CarsAndGuitars]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

How's that any weirder than the last 5 minutes of a basketball game taking well over half an hour because of professional fouls?

Giving a penalty for an infraction that occurred after a game is over makes sense? Why not just kick enough goals at an empty net after time expires for the win?

I don't watch or care for basketball either. The only sport I watch with any regularity is (American) football, occasionally hockey. Gave up baseball when the Prima Donnas came on the scene. And honestly there are getting to be too many in football now too

[CarsAndGuitars]

Originally Posted by Onesie

Lol at the complaints about extra time…

So you start watching a game of soccer at 12 pm, at 1 you know you’re grabbing more food or whatever since it’s intermission, and at 2 pm you’re done…

Extra time is just so that the game can regain some time lost with stoppages (like injuries or something else). 90 minutes based on a running clock + a few minutes if needed (not always needed).

As said, take a freaking game that has 4 quarters of 12 minutes and a game that starts at 12 pm will never end at 1 pm… it’ll end at 4 or 5…

“I can never watch a game I have no idea when it’s ending” is right lol

Basketball fan here

Devil's advocate: Why would you want something you enjoy to end sooner than later?

The clock in football is pretty predictable. It works out to about 3 minutes of actual time to one minute of play clock. So a 60 minute timed game takes about 3 hours. The networks have that timing down. Now if you want to talk about 3:30 commercial breaks every 10 minutes I will complain right along side of you, but that is just typical of any US broadcast of any TV genre.

[Dino GT]

Originally Posted by Admiral

You don't understand soccer as you call it, we call it football, what the hell is going on with all those dudes dressed as if they are about to jump on a motorbike with helmets and god knows what else that you call American Football, are there any rules or is it a free for all punch up. I have tried to understand the game but I have given up the will to live by trying to understand it, soccer as you call it has Extra Time, how long does your game take with all the down time, I only watch it now when the Girlies are doing their stuff

Eddie Murphy has the answer you're looking for

[HFW003]

Originally Posted by kring

I don't know if it's still this way for professional Soccer, but the biggest issue IMO is that there is no know length of the game. they start out at 90 minutes, then based on the referee's discretion they extend the game an unknown amount of time until the ref personally feels the game is to his satisfaction... often just long enough to break a tie, or allow a favorite team to score in undefined-overtime and tie things, a nudge to alter the outcome of the game.

that's not professional... is it still like that?

Your premise is incorrect, it’s not just an arbitrary number the referee decides during the game. He has a watch and keeps a total of time which has been lost during the game which is then added to the end of each half.

Generally it’s only a minute or two but during the World Cup they are seem to be adding every minute wasted, which is what should happen. The game should have play for the full 90 minutes.

You think football, which is what the rest of the world calls it, is hard try and get your head around Aussie Rules (AFL)! At least the referee puts the added time up on a board at the end normal time.

This is a game of 20 minute quarters which takes around three hours to complete. The 20 minutes is actual play so every time the game stops for whatever reason the clock still ticks (the clock goes up not counts down) and no one knows how long and actual quarter goes for.


Now with that being said both Football and AFL (both 360 degree games) are so much more enjoyable to watch and play than NFL or the Rugby codes.

[freakystyly]

Originally Posted by CarsAndGuitars

Giving a penalty for an infraction that occurred after a game is over makes sense? Why not just kick enough goals at an empty net after time expires for the win?

Yellow cards are like a subway punch card and the total number of yellow cards you get, depending on the tournament, the prize wins you a suspension for 1 match. A "professional foul" like the one you described likely is, is an instant match ban.

So penalties do carry over to the next game, which sucks for tournaments.

[oVeRdOsE.]

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by CarsAndGuitars

Giving a penalty for an infraction that occurred after a game is over makes sense?

FIFA is an international organization of leagues. Those post-match yellow cards follow the penalized players home, possibly resulting in them being suspended from upcoming matches with their regular teams if they have accumulated too many.

I know that this concept is strange to American sports fans, but soccer has been around for over a hundred years and has developed working rules that suit the game with modernizations like VAR. I also like inter-league relegations, where perennial losers like the Cleveland Browns of a few years ago would have been booted out of the NFL if our sports leagues used a similar system. No coasting at the end of the season to get the #1 draft pick next spring.

As for the added/injury time, I like to keep a count in the back of my head when watching a match to see if I can predict the added time at the end of a half. At least in the English Premiere League, the time added seems to be plausible for the most part.....

[CarsAndGuitars]

Originally Posted by freakystyly

Yellow cards are like a subway punch card and the total number of yellow cards you get, depending on the tournament, the prize wins you a suspension for 1 match. A "professional foul" like the one you described likely is, is an instant match ban.

So penalties do carry over to the next game, which sucks for tournaments.

But the penalty (yellow card) was given AFTER the match was over. The NFL analog to that would be giving an unsportsmanlike conduct after the game was decided. Ridiculous.

[freakystyly]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ootball_League

Lots of "Violation of the Personal Conduct Policy"

[CarsAndGuitars]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

FIFA is an international organization of leagues. Those post-match yellow cards follow the penalized players home, possibly resulting in them being suspended from upcoming matches with their regular teams if they have accumulated too many.

I know that this concept is strange to American sports fans, but soccer has been around for over a hundred years and has developed working rules that suit the game with modernizations like VAR. I also like inter-league relegations, where perennial losers like the Cleveland Browns of a few years ago would have been booted out of the NFL if our sports leagues used a similar system. No coasting at the end of the season to get the #1 draft pick next spring.

As for the added/injury time, I like to keep a count in the back of my head when watching a match to see if I can predict the added time at the end of a half. At least in the English Premiere League, the time added seems to be plausible for the most part.....

I could understand a suspension and/or fine if the incident warranted an assault charge, but I don't get how a game-time penalty can be assessed when a game is not in progress. That said, unless you are going to involve law enforcement for an assault on the officials after the game, it is an unfortunately unprofessional incident. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Why do you copy and paste the same Cleveland Browns explanation into responses to multiple users? And FWIW now the Browns are not a bottom of the barrel team and others are. Parity over time is also part of the game.

And how do you justify the New England Patriots and LA Rams, are they just outliers in your confirmation bias?

[UncleWede]

The referees control the game until they leave the pitch (field). Blowing the whistle ends competition, but can still administer unsporting behavior (yellow cards)

[CarsAndGuitars]

[floridaorange]

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[Buug959]

Originally Posted by floridaorange

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And twenty seconds later he's playing as if nothing happened because, well, nothing did happen. There should be a penalty for those theatrics. And that's why I don't watch soccer(football).

[Esteban]

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[MKSixer]

I'll show myself out now.