F1 2022: Italian GP - Imola (Apr 24)

///M Power-Belgium · 04-24-2022, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

News just in is that Max has got the Laureus award for Best Sportsman in the world beating other top people like tennis man Djokovic and footballer Lewandowski.

There can be only 1 !!!

///M Power-Belgium · 04-24-2022, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

NO $HIT BUCKWHEAT

Today ,Charlie got too much pressure my friend ..

Pity !

GuidoK · 04-24-2022, 07:38 PM

He didn't learn enough from last year Monaco disaster.

F87source · 04-24-2022, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by M3WC

Imola last year in similar conditions, people were giving Bottas crap for fighting down the order with a Williams. Fast forward a year, Lewis finishes 14th behind 12th place Albon in Williams.

Positions gained in race:
Russ - 7
Ham - 0

Bottas had a championship winning car at his disposal but he couldn't do anything, Hamilton has an absolute pile of flaming garbage to fight with. There's a major difference, so that's why Bottas always gets trashed about Imola.

Killed by Death · 04-24-2022, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Today ,Charlie got too much pressure my friend ..

Pity !

No Doubt!!!

Max may have just won his 2nd Championship today. Can't make any mistakes against VER!!! Dude is an animal behind the wheel!!!

At least Hammy struggled

M3WC · 04-24-2022, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by F87source

Bottas had a championship winning car at his disposal but he couldn't do anything, Hamilton has an absolute pile of flaming garbage to fight with. There's a major difference, so that's why Bottas always gets trashed about Imola.

Russ has shown the last two races the car is better than what Ham is doing with it. Ham is underperforming.

F87source · 04-24-2022, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

No Doubt!!!

Max may have just won his 2nd Championship today. Can't make any mistakes against VER!!! Dude is an animal behind the wheel!!!

At least Hammy struggled

Leclerc's never fought for a championship before so he'll have to learn to control his emotions. So I'd give him some credit, he's been flawless thus far and even out smarter max in the restart in the first race.

F87source · 04-24-2022, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by M3WC

Russ has shown the last two races the car is better than what Ham is doing with it. Ham is underperforming.

I don't disagree, but it's not a direct comparison with Bottas because the w12 was a much easier car to drive. The w13 on the other hand is incredibly difficult to drive and it seems it isn't matching Hamiltons style so he doesn't have the confidence to push it all the way. With George he's used to driving crap boxes and literally putting them into positions where it shouldn't be.

So imo George is out performing the car and able to push past the natural limits of the car that is induced by porpoising and can extract every ounce of performance the car can give, i.e. he is extracting performance that shouldn't be there. With Lewis he is driving at the limit of the car if not under it, so he is slightly underperforming. That's just how it is, if you don't feel confident in the car you can't perform.

Bubbles · 04-25-2022, 01:32 AM

Bottas got muscled by Russell and a bad pit stop. Still decent performance.

Russell did a great job, even though his pit crew forgot to change front wing setting to dry. Good attitude and a shining light in a dim Merc garage.

Ham needs to step up if he can. His mood, chip on shoulder, blame game impacts his team in a bad way. It appeared that Toto reminded him of his influence to the team this weekend. Schumacher dealt with underperforming teams and cars - in private. George is doing a better job in this area.

LeCrash came back. He will come back strong no doubt.

Sainz and Alonso — cursed by voodoo.

Ocon remains ordinary.

Mick remains less than average.

Latifi is part of a dying breed of true pay drivers. Oscar P for 2023

Zho is showing movements of improvement.

Yuki is filling the Gasly point void.

Danny Ric. 2022 may evolve into his retirement year.

Cool down room is BACK!

Bubbles · 04-25-2022, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Switch to F1 live.

Bubbles · 04-25-2022, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

Presuming Lando even wants that, because now....I'm not so sure

I'd hope Nyck de Vries would get his seat.
He's been in the Mercedes eco-system for almost 3 years now and winning a lot (formula E), but the problem is, the Mercedes eco-system has only 2 F1 seats, so that is pretty much a dead end.
RB has alpha tauri at least as a sister team to introduce new talent.
(BTW Nyck de Vries came from the mcLaren young driver programme)

Nick should get the spot, he has spent nearly 2 years standing next to a sitting ToTo for each race weekend. After enduring that, he should get the seat.

F87source · 04-25-2022, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

Bottas got muscled by Russell and a bad pit stop. Still decent performance.

Russell did a great job, even though his pit crew forgot to change front wing setting to dry. Good attitude and a shining light in a dim Merc garage.

Ham needs to step up if he can. His mood, chip on shoulder, blame game impacts his team in a bad way. It appeared that Toto reminded him of his influence to the team this weekend. Schumacher dealt with underperforming teams and cars - in private. George is doing a better job in this area.

LeCrash came back. He will come back strong no doubt.

Sainz and Alonso — cursed by voodoo.

Ocon remains ordinary.

Mick remains less than average.

Latifi is part of a dying breed of true pay drivers. Oscar P for 2023

Zho is showing movements of improvement.

Yuki is filling the Gasly point void.

Danny Ric. 2022 may evolve into his retirement year.

Cool down room is BACK!

I was like dang yuki did better than Pierre, not used to seeing that.

M5Rick · 04-25-2022, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Autobacs

True, but Russell is showing him how to beat Lewis who he could not.

Russ is younger and more hungrier now than Ham in that bucking W13 after his baptism of fire in Ham's car that time in Sakhir.

F87source · 04-25-2022, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Russ is younger and more hungrier now than Ham in that bucking W13 after his baptism of fire in Ham's car that time in Sakhir.

Maybe that drive disappears after 7 titles and hundreds of millions of dollars, and losing a title on the last lap.

It is what it is, everyone loses eventually. You either retire on top or retire washed up, that's how it is in most sports especially fighting.

M5Rick · 04-25-2022, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by F87source

I was like dang yuki did better than Pierre, not used to seeing that.

I like the radio convo between Pierre G and the AT pit, they are the quickest talkers in F1.

F87source · 04-25-2022, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

I like the radio convo between Pierre G and the AT pit, they are the quickest talkers in F1.

I gotta listen to it at some point, I was extremely busy for the last few days doing maintaineance on all of my cars and switching out the winter tires for summers so i'm exhausted.

JustinHEMI · 04-25-2022, 03:05 AM

M5Rick · 04-25-2022, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by F87source

I gotta listen to it at some point, I was extremely busy for the last few days doing maintaineance on all of my cars and switching out the winter tires for summers so i'm exhausted.

I know how you feel, after doing an oil change in the CLK (half the under engine panel needs removing) then I have to fit the overhaul kit to the rear brake calipers and put them back then re fill and bleed the system on the 928.

M5Rick · 04-25-2022, 05:29 AM

Just read Russell has back and chest pains from the pounding he got getting that 4th place at Imola, no wonder Ham was trundling along taking it easy behind Gasly

he's no fool.
I'd wager that reserve drivers would have to be called in soon if the situation gets worse or Merc may have to raise the suspension even higher for the sake of health for their drivers.

MontyB1 · 04-25-2022, 05:29 AM

I thought that was a pretty good race in the end.

Good result for Redbull and a cracking points hall, Lando just keeps on delivering and getting the points, good to see McLaren reclaim the testing pace they showed.

Merc, well I said Russell had talent and get him in a good car and he can show it. Hamilton, yikes not the day and he couldn't get past Gasly with that barn door rear wing. But was good is how close Gasly, Albon and Hamilton could follow and race lap after lap sometimes with only 0.3 of a second separating them. That is the sort of thing you see in F2 not F1 for years so the new regs are certainly delivering there but its not the track for easy overtaking, maybe another DRS sector to be added?

Ferrari, the pressure got to the drives either in Quali or the race, you have to love the passion but they need to focus on points and just just drive with the heart. Sainz seems to have no luck at all at the moment but then is that due to lack of talent as the car seems great, Mmm.

Overall a good race for a track that can be quite the precession. Roll on Miami, I sense we are about to see some fairly big updates on a few cars.....!

M5Rick · 04-25-2022, 05:51 AM

'Porsche,there is no substitute.' You should try working on them Tom.

///M Power-Belgium · 04-25-2022, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

No Doubt!!!

Max may have just won his 2nd Championship today. Can't make any mistakes against VER!!! Dude is an animal behind the wheel!!!

At least Hammy struggled

I agree . But let us not forget that MAX lost +/- 50 driver points in 2 races by his 2 DNF's .
From the 4 races so far ,MAX only finished twice , but he took the 2 victories .

Meanwhile Charlie is still leading the WDC ranking with '27 points .
But It's a long season ...

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M5Rick General 69493 Rep 22,252 Posts Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	Just read Russell has back and chest pains from the pounding he got getting that 4th place at Imola, no wonder Ham was trundling along taking it easy behind Gasly he's no fool. I'd wager that reserve drivers would have to be called in soon if the situation gets worse or Merc may have to raise the suspension even higher for the sake of health for their drivers.
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MontyB1 Lieutenant Colonel 1638 Rep 1,991 Posts Drives: BMW X3 Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I thought that was a pretty good race in the end. Good result for Redbull and a cracking points hall, Lando just keeps on delivering and getting the points, good to see McLaren reclaim the testing pace they showed. Merc, well I said Russell had talent and get him in a good car and he can show it. Hamilton, yikes not the day and he couldn't get past Gasly with that barn door rear wing. But was good is how close Gasly, Albon and Hamilton could follow and race lap after lap sometimes with only 0.3 of a second separating them. That is the sort of thing you see in F2 not F1 for years so the new regs are certainly delivering there but its not the track for easy overtaking, maybe another DRS sector to be added? Ferrari, the pressure got to the drives either in Quali or the race, you have to love the passion but they need to focus on points and just just drive with the heart. Sainz seems to have no luck at all at the moment but then is that due to lack of talent as the car seems great, Mmm. Overall a good race for a track that can be quite the precession. Roll on Miami, I sense we are about to see some fairly big updates on a few cars.....!
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