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      07-08-2009, 08:24 AM   #397
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That's great, thanks for the reviews guys. Can M-Force comment whether they will be addressing these issues for upcoming shipments or just going to stick with current model??
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      07-08-2009, 09:20 AM   #398
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he pretends to receive each version and says how perfect the fitment is or it has slight issues but "overall they are PERFECT"....LOL
anyway....I cant believe with 3 versions.....several so called international flights....and they still have fitment issues....too freakin funny!
Thanks for your comment. We tried to keep our words that's why we shipped first 8 customers three times each, and a total of 24 sets. Without the cost for each set, the shipping is $200 per set. For shipping cost only, we have lost about $4800.

Please keep in mind that the sideskirts is an aftermarket part and it's designed for customers who can install by themselves; without the extra cost for paint/installation at a body shop. Have you ever seen the fitment of other famous aftermarket body kits? We tried to do our best for our customers or else, we can say “Professional installation is required to get the best result.” We don’t sell crap and we don’t play tricks. Our customer service definitely has room for improvement, but WE NEVER LEFT OUR CUSTOMERS BEHIND.

Of course everyone can have their comment here including you. However, I found all of your comment is negative but I will take it as motivation to make us even better. If you ever buy stuff from us, you should know the quality of our products. Some encouragement instead of a kibitzer's comments will only show your kindness.
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      07-08-2009, 09:26 AM   #399
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For those who have installed the side skirts and seen a small bulge on the front of the skirts, we've found that there's one screw in the front which prevents the front of the skirts going in.
We are trying to find a replacement screw now, and will send to our customers.
Please see the below photos for more details.


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For those who have installed the side skirts and seen a small bulge on the front of the skirts, we've found that there's one screw in the front which prevents the front of the skirts going in.
We are trying to find a replacement screw now, and will send to our customers.
Please see the below photos for more details.


Frank, so I can expect to receive this to solve the driver's side buldge? That would be great. If you post the size and thread of the bolt, then I can just pick it up at Home Depot.
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      07-08-2009, 09:33 AM   #401
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Frank, so I can expect to receive this to solve the driver's side buldge? That would be great.
We are still searching the right size screw, once we finalize, we will send the screw to everyone who purchases our side skirts
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We are still searching the right size screw, once we finalize, we will send the screw to everyone who purchases our side skirts
Cool!

If you can post the size once you figure it out, a lot of us would probably rather just go buy it than wait. Now if it has to be fabricated, then that's a different story.

Looks like this is all finally coming together.
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Cool!

If you can post the size once you figure it out, a lot of us would probably rather just go buy it than wait. Now if it has to be fabricated, then that's a different story.

Looks like this is all finally coming together.
They always come through in the end. Its like a love/hate relationship lol.. ThorsHammer was the greatest ANTI-M Force advocate!!
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Alright guys as promised with few delays since it is the MForce M3 side skirt thread here are my pics.

left side screw whole not drilled.


Left front not lining up


Rear gap...Its even so its not that bad but theres a gap.


Even fender of the front right side.





is there a difference?? u compare here's stock and m3 sides pic on top of each other...

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Whoa. That left side is looking pretty rough.
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Got a tracking number also and they are almost here for me. Will Update.
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      07-08-2009, 11:22 AM   #407
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Frank,

can you post a list of all buyers who paid in full and when they can expect a tracking #? I check this thread every day in hopes for an update after paying in full back in March and I am sure I am not alone among other buyers.

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Hi Joe:
Pat told me he will personally deliver the side skirts to you next week, thus you don't need a tracking number
EXCELLENT!!!!!

Thanks Frank!
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      07-08-2009, 09:20 PM   #409
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cn555ic, your enthusiasm is admirable and we all respect that. Transparency is critical though because people will find out if your information is flawed. Last time (rev. 2) you said that with small modifications everything fit perfect, but now you are saying:

1. They creaked everytime you got in and out of the car.
2. The snaps in the rear of the side skirt kept popping out everytime you drove the car.

I expressed serious concern on rev. 2 that the rear snaps would pop out because the mounting points were too far away from the body. I also said the material appeared to be subpar. It appears this is exactly what happened.

Guys here are the indisputable facts. Here are the good things:

1. The color match appears very good.
2. The quality of the rev. 3 skirts is top notch and the best so far.
3. They were packaged well and shipped smoothly (once notified).
4. This is the best version fitment by far.

Now for each side of the car. On the driver's side:

1. The rear snaps fit perfectly eliminating any bulge at all.
2. The rear lines up perfectly.
3. Many of the mounting holes on the side skirt will need to be opened up or bored out to line up to the stock mounting points under the car (very easy).
4. The front snap hole in the door sill will need to be opened up as well to fit the snap.
5. The front has a very tiny buldge on the rear snap (not very noticeable).
6. The front comes up 1-2 mm short.

To fix the short part on the front, I bent the fender liner in a touch and mounted a tiny piece of ABS plast to extend the fender liner. It makes it not noticeable.

On the passenger's side

1. The rear buldges slightly on the middle two pops.
2. The rear lines up nearly perfect, but curves in a small amount before the edge.
3. Many of the mounting holes on the side skirt will need to be opened up or bored out to line up to the stock mounting points under the car (very easy).
4. The front snap hole in the door sill will need to be opened up as well to fit the snap.
5. The front of the side skirts lines up 100% perfect.
6. The snaps insert perfectly with zero buldges.

These are the facts guys. OEM is OEM. This is a replica of a part that does not even pit the E92. I think we are about 95% of OEM fitment now. I think this will be good for 95% of us. I really think most of you guys will be absolutely thrilled with the part, but I do want to give honest information.
Since we all now have your "HOLY GRAIL" review of these skirts....Can you please post some pics of your skirts installed on your car to back up what you have described to the forum....My pics might show the transparency your speaking of...Lets see some of your pics! Anyone who actually has version 3 should post some pics to show everyone waiting...

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Since we all now have your "HOLY GRAIL" review of these skirts....Can you please post some pics of your skirts installed on your car to back up what you have described to the forum....My pics might show the transparency your speaking of...Lets see some of your pics! Anyone who actually has version 3 should post some pics to show everyone waiting...
cn555ic, you have even been accused of being Frank and Pat. I am just saying lets be fair in our review of the product. Is there anything you do not agree with in my notes?
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      07-09-2009, 09:48 AM   #411
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cn555ic, you have even been accused of being Frank and Pat. I am just saying lets be fair in our review of the product. Is there anything you do not agree with in my notes?
I am agreeing totally about your "HOLY GRAIL of REVIEWS" Didn't you know I am Frank and my other alias is PAT!! lol The versions that I received earlier, I did initially get them installed, while it may not have been perfect, I got them installed to the best of my abilities...They look decent on, but after a couple of weeks with them, I guess things went downhill....There was no deception...I have always stated the paint match very well...Always stated that version 1 came about 2mm short...Version 2...though I didn't realize about the bulge because I was happy to get the new ones on, I realized when JPsimon brought it to my attention and I carefully examined it! It was with version 2 that after a couple of weeks the back started to pop out, I guess the double sided tape was just a temporary fix, but the day I posted about it, it held on very good without any problems... Version 3 I stated drivers side came up 1.5mm short other than that passenger was perfect and thats on my personal skirts that came to my house, I realized that it could be possible that each pair of skirts may be different, but paint was perfectly match, no bulge whatsover on either side like your is exhibiting in one of your rears...Although we all value your reviews, dude are you a priest of some kind? FYI people started saying if I was really PAT or Frank is because I kept telling them to give them a little slack, and eventually they will get their products.....Based on how Frank and Pat have tried to take care of the problem, I felt it was right to show them the appreciation and defend all the critism and negative feedback they were getting...I find nothing wrong with what I did, and based on all their efforts they have shown to me and I am sure to you, since you also received three version of it yourself! In fact you and I are in the same boat, because out of everyone, we should appreciate it the most because we both sold our version1 for some money on this forum. So in acutality, these skirts realistically only cost us about 300 or so....Before you start calling people out, take a look in the mirror...I didn't under no circumstances give people false reviews, I just told them what to do to make the ones they had on hand fit...ALthough your enthusiam of modding cars is great and appreciated, please don't think anyone will not buy a product or vice versa because of your reviews or mine!! But being that you did give a EXTENSIVE review, it would do the forum some justice to see some of the pics on your car..that would help alot to make people understand your review! I showed my pics of encounters with the skirts like the driver's side being 1.5 mm short..I also showed the lack of bulge from both sides....
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I am agreeing totally about your "HOLY GRAIL of REVIEWS" Didn't you know I am Frank and my other alias is PAT!! lol The versions that I received earlier, I did initially get them installed, while it may not have been perfect, I got them installed to the best of my abilities...They look decent on, but after a couple of weeks with them, I guess things went downhill....There was no deception...I have always stated the paint match very well...Always stated that version 1 came about 2mm short...Version 2...though I didn't realize about the bulge because I was happy to get the new ones on, I realized when JPsimon brought it to my attention and I carefully examined it! It was with version 2 that after a couple of weeks the back started to pop out, I guess the double sided tape was just a temporary fix, but the day I posted about it, it held on very good without any problems... Version 3 I stated drivers side came up 1.5mm short other than that passenger was perfect and thats on my personal skirts that came to my house, I realized that it could be possible that each pair of skirts may be different, but paint was perfectly match, no bulge whatsover on either side like your is exhibiting in one of your rears...Although we all value your reviews, dude are you a priest of some kind? FYI people started saying if I was really PAT or Frank is because I kept telling them to give them a little slack, and eventually they will get their products.....Based on how Frank and Pat have tried to take care of the problem, I felt it was right to show them the appreciation and defend all the critism and negative feedback they were getting...I find nothing wrong with what I did, and based on all their efforts they have shown to me and I am sure to you, since you also received three version of it yourself! In fact you and I are in the same boat, because out of everyone, we should appreciate it the most because we both sold our version1 for some money on this forum. So in acutality, these skirts realistically only cost us about 300 or so....Before you start calling people out, take a look in the mirror...I didn't under no circumstances give people false reviews, I just told them what to do to make the ones they had on hand fit...ALthough your enthusiam of modding cars is great and appreciated, please don't think anyone will not buy a product or vice versa because of your reviews or mine!! lol
My review is the holy grail of nothing nor are any of my reviews. They are honest and that is all. Why don't you ask Pat, Frank, or Mach what purpose I serve here? I am their beta tester. That is why I have had all three sets. They asked me to be fully transparent and honest in my review of their product. M-Force has missed the time table and they know it. They have worked very hard to try to get us a perfect product and they have done well in what I think will make 95% of the GB happy. I completely agree M-Force is a very good vendor and I am happy they are on the forum. They may be guilty of not realizing how long this project would take, but it has not been for a lack of effort. Frank also admits some communication break downs, but in terms of quality replica parts, I have never seen a better company.
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Woohoo! My skirts will arrive today!!
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congrats....hope install goes without hitch...please post some pics when you get a chance
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Do you have a dremmel? A flex shaft attachment with the sanding barrel makes it very easy to open up the part of the skirt you need to without jacking the car up.
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I received a 3M tape with the skirts where am i suppose to apply that to?
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Do you have a dremmel? A flex shaft attachment with the sanding barrel makes it very easy to open up the part of the skirt you need to without jacking the car up.
No, but I have a pretty extensive file set. Think that'll do?

Or, I might just have the shop do it. She's there today and tomorrow getting some other stuff done (scratch repair and wheel re-finish).
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