N54 Tune Comparison Chart (Detailed)

AltecBX · 04-14-2010, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

No love for the JB3 Pin-Out

With more and more cars coming out of warranty the Pin-Out is definitely attracting more attention and providing an unbelievable price point!

Mike

Trying to compare both products that support PNP.

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Originally Posted by ianthegreat

Great job Altec!

Thanks

BzzzBom · 04-14-2010, 09:40 AM

Great job. I had no idea that you could get the GIAC flash for about the same price as the older piggyback units. I am scheduling the GIAC tune today.

Mr. 5 · 04-14-2010, 09:43 AM

As I said on another forum...Superb job.
It's nice that people actually care about others in the community and this took a good portion of your time.

There's only one thing that I noticed though.
The hp numbers for the Dinan flash seem high for the stage 1.
Those numbers correlate more with their stage 3 program.

Also, GIAC's peak boost is correct with full mods running stage 1 but normal stage 1 boost is around 15 psi.

NRG · 04-14-2010, 09:53 AM

Great chart Altec!

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Also, GIAC's peak boost is correct with full mods running stage 1 but normal stage 1 boost is around 15 psi.

Little correction it's 13.7 as he said.

My car had 0 mods except the S1 REV2 last year and I've never seen more then 13.7.

fisherbln · 04-14-2010, 10:18 AM

Very nice job!

jpsimon · 04-14-2010, 10:20 AM

be prepared to edit that list often! New features come out every other week

AltecBX · 04-14-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

As I said on another forum...Superb job.
It's nice that people actually care about others in the community and this took a good portion of your time.

There's only one thing that I noticed though.
The hp numbers for the Dinan flash seem high for the stage 1.
Those numbers correlate more with their stage 3 program.

Also, GIAC's peak boost is correct with full mods running stage 1 but normal stage 1 boost is around 15 psi.

Thanks. The Dinan #'s are off there website as well. They do require you to have a Free Flow Exhaust.

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

be prepared to edit that list often! New features come out every other week

I'll definitely be updated it.

Mr. 5 · 04-14-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

Thanks. The Dinan #'s are off there website as well. They do require you to have a Free Flow Exhaust.

I'll definitely be updated it.

All of Dinan's numbers are crank hp though--not wheel.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 04-14-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

All of Dinan's numbers are crank hp though--not wheel.

+1 Thats an important distinction as I believe only BMW and Dinan advertise like that while all other tuners advertise actual wheel HP gains/numbers.

Mike

jpsimon · 04-14-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

All of Dinan's numbers are crank hp though--not wheel.

+1

jpsimon · 04-14-2010, 11:13 AM

Altec, under "user adjustable parameters" you should make a note about the bog/lagfix stuff for the procede column. The reason it's no longer implemented is because it isn't necessary since there is no bog/lag to fix. It's a bit misleading

GaryS · 04-14-2010, 11:25 AM

Dinan requires intercooler upgrade for Stage 3, not Stage 1 or Stage 2.

shifterboy45 · 04-14-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by StartupJunkie

Hi AltecBX,

Great job on putting this together ... I know you were getting a lot of flack for asking all those questions, I'm glad you stuck to it and got this version completed.

I think many on the forums will appreciate this (even if they don't say so).

Junk

PS. I'm sure there will be minor tweaks and corrections in the next few days ... other posters, please be considerate in how your phase those corrections!!

Damn fine piece of work there -- my hats off to you for your persistence

even though i dont use a tune its a great reference when looking into one

thanks Altec

cadthis · 04-14-2010, 02:23 PM

Great info!!

Thank you very much for doing that

orionredwing · 04-14-2010, 02:33 PM

Super cool. Can't wait to forward the .pdf to my non-e90post friends.

forza1976 · 04-14-2010, 03:47 PM

Nice work on this comparison, it's cool to review all the various features of each tune!

Glad it's a sticky.

JoeyFiasco · 04-14-2010, 04:09 PM

impressive, good work man

bolty · 04-15-2010, 07:52 AM

wow.

Really nicely done!!

I thought it would end up being just marketing fluff but you managed to put all the good bits of info in a nice format.

Well done man.

Terrance28 · 04-15-2010, 08:06 AM

Isn't Formers nitrous dyno on a mustang dyno? On a dynojet he would've made way more than 498whp.

lyndon_h · 04-15-2010, 09:07 AM

Congratulations on getting this done, especially considering all the crap spewed your way. This is really helpful.

vasillalov · 04-15-2010, 04:03 PM

I tried sending a PM to the OP about two apparent errors:

From GIAC web site:
GIAC performance software for the 2010 - 2007 E9x 335 smoothly delivers a 40 - 80 hp and 60 - 90 ft-lbs gain.

The OP reports gains of 40-50 hp and 50-60 tq which are wrong...

PaulBailey@ltbmw · 04-15-2010, 04:05 PM

Awesome info here!

04-14-2010, 09:40 AM	#24
BzzzBom Major 94 Rep 1,216 Posts Drives: 05 R53 MINI / 09 335i Coupe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Great job. I had no idea that you could get the GIAC flash for about the same price as the older piggyback units. I am scheduling the GIAC tune today.
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04-14-2010, 09:43 AM	#25
Mr. 5 Modder Raider 795 Rep 8,633 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Surf City, HB iTrader: (31) Garage List 2007 e90 335i [8.00]	As I said on another forum...Superb job. It's nice that people actually care about others in the community and this took a good portion of your time. There's only one thing that I noticed though. The hp numbers for the Dinan flash seem high for the stage 1. Those numbers correlate more with their stage 3 program. Also, GIAC's peak boost is correct with full mods running stage 1 but normal stage 1 boost is around 15 psi. __________________ e36 M3 Coupe, e36 325i Sedan e90 335i--SOLD Best 60-130-------------9.15 Seconds------------------WWW.MR5RACING.COM
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04-14-2010, 10:18 AM	#27
fisherbln Captain 12 Rep 859 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Coupe Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	Very nice job!
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04-14-2010, 10:20 AM	#28
jpsimon Team Zissou 3142 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	be prepared to edit that list often! New features come out every other week
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04-14-2010, 11:13 AM	#33
jpsimon Team Zissou 3142 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	Altec, under "user adjustable parameters" you should make a note about the bog/lagfix stuff for the procede column. The reason it's no longer implemented is because it isn't necessary since there is no bog/lag to fix. It's a bit misleading Last edited by jpsimon; 04-14-2010 at 11:19 AM..
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04-14-2010, 11:25 AM	#34
GaryS Colonel 39 Rep 2,084 Posts Drives: 2009 135i 6MT Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 135i [6.50]	Dinan requires intercooler upgrade for Stage 3, not Stage 1 or Stage 2.
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04-14-2010, 02:23 PM	#36
cadthis Private 1 Rep 98 Posts Drives: 2016 335i GT Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: YVR iTrader: (0)	Great info!! Thank you very much for doing that __________________ W Stercus accidit... interdum 2009 E90 335i, 2013 F30 328ix, 2016 F34 335i GT
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04-14-2010, 02:33 PM	#37
orionredwing Captain 110 Rep 728 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan, 135i Coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Jose iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i [10.00]	Super cool. Can't wait to forward the .pdf to my non-e90post friends. __________________ PROcede \| AMS FMIC \| AR Catless DPs \| AR Oil Cooler \| BMS DCI Wavetrac LSD \| KW V3 w/ Swift Springs \| M3 Front Suspension
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04-14-2010, 03:47 PM	#38
forza1976 Major General 3507 Rep 6,623 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 49456 iTrader: (13) Garage List 2022 BMW M3X [9.50]	Nice work on this comparison, it's cool to review all the various features of each tune! Glad it's a sticky.
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04-14-2010, 04:09 PM	#39
JoeyFiasco Major 26 Rep 1,211 Posts Drives: '09 Coupe Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: P'boro, UK iTrader: (0)	impressive, good work man
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04-15-2010, 07:52 AM	#40
bolty /r/trees 50 Rep 875 Posts Drives: 08 e92 335xi Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada iTrader: (3)	wow. Really nicely done!! I thought it would end up being just marketing fluff but you managed to put all the good bits of info in a nice format. Well done man.
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04-15-2010, 08:06 AM	#41
Terrance28 Brigadier General 114 Rep 3,334 Posts Drives: Crimson Red E92 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Killeen, TX iTrader: (17)	Isn't Formers nitrous dyno on a mustang dyno? On a dynojet he would've made way more than 498whp. __________________ Mods list got too long, lets just say more than enough.
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04-15-2010, 09:07 AM	#42
lyndon_h Lieutenant Colonel 40 Rep 1,917 Posts Drives: e90 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Madagascar iTrader: (2)	Congratulations on getting this done, especially considering all the crap spewed your way. This is really helpful.
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04-15-2010, 04:03 PM	#43
vasillalov Mad Linux Guru On The Loose 1180 Rep 5,452 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Sedan, 2023 M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (5) Garage List 2023 BMW M3 [0.00] 2008 335i E90 [8.00]	I tried sending a PM to the OP about two apparent errors: From GIAC web site: GIAC performance software for the 2010 - 2007 E9x 335 smoothly delivers a 40 - 80 hp and 60 - 90 ft-lbs gain. The OP reports gains of 40-50 hp and 50-60 tq which are wrong...
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04-15-2010, 04:05 PM	#44
PaulBailey@ltbmw General 677 Rep 26,876 Posts Drives: 2-325 330 2-335 2-Z4 2-135 X5d Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Huntington Beach, CA iTrader: (34) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i E90 [7.00] 2011 BMW 335i E92 [7.96]	Awesome info here!
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