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E90 BMW Soft close doors retrofit DIY-E9X Chassis.
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02-25-2023, 02:46 AM | #23 |
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Driver door DIY in the first post has been working flawlessly since it was posted.
Right rear door actuator was failing electrically, (constant door open error) so I opted that as the next soft close retrofit. Sadly, the 2 pin method is not working. I am getting a factory soft close motor pigtail to see if the casing around the 2 wires is magical and needed. Have found a 12V source, just need to wire it in order to edit passenger rear door. |
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02-25-2023, 05:19 AM | #24 |
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Just a heads up, your part# for the front actuator in the OP is off; it doesn't bring up any BMW part when crossreferenced in RealOEM. This is what I was able to find when I dug into the F10 section:
51217185689 (Front Driver) 51217185692 (Front Passenger) In regards to the rear doors, are you reusing front door actuators or are you using the rear door ones? If so I was able to find numbers for the rears as well 51227154515 (Rear Driver) 51227154516 (Rear Passenger) That being said, someone mentioned e60 actuators earlier. Is there any benefit/difference if using them instead? I would assume the F10 ones would be better/nicer, no? Those are the ones we should be looking for, yeah? It'll be a while before I'll be able to tackle this project myself so I wouldn't be of much use right now, but hopefully by the time I get around to it all the kinks have been ironed out
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02-25-2023, 11:51 AM | #25 |
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Yea, those are the part numbers from the parts I got. They’re aftermarket eBay, but reference those part numbers.
The e60 actuator someone posted earlier had too many pins and it would be difficult to configure what each pin does. The cable length on the e70 is too small, so F series is needed. I’m going to source an OEM pigtail and verify if the pigtails have magical powers or if this soft close motor is just defective.. |
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02-25-2023, 10:19 PM | #26 |
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I think my favorite thing about this retrofit is the fact that the actuators use an isolated motor that just directly taps into the wiring, no programming needed. It's refreshing seeing mods that don't require coding, reprogramming, repinning, running lines through firewalls, routing to junction boxes, etc. I've gotten to the point where it seems like more than half the mods I have planned require some use of NCSExpert to finalize the install and it's nice that these basically work nearly plug-and-play without having to be coded. While I'll probably eventually get more experience with coding and probably won't dread mods that require it in the future, it's nice seeing things that can be done/upgraded while I keep my brain in monkey mode
Literally so easy an idiot can do it That being said, have you noticed any rattles or binding on the window from only installing your front actuator motor at one point? It doesn't seem like colorado.e9x even mounted it at all (looks like it's just hanging there) and I'm just curious if there's any audible rattling or play. When I tackle this I might make some sort of custom bracket in order to anchor the motor to at least 2 mounting points but we'll see. If it's fine with just 1 point I may just leave well enough alone
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02-26-2023, 09:18 AM | #27 |
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I was planning on mounting it.. Later that day I found I didn't have bits for my drill and I didn't feel like going to Home Depot lol
With that being said it fits very tight and it has never gotten loose and rattled. Bumpy roads and canyon runs included
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02-26-2023, 03:25 PM | #28 |
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The front driver hasn’t made any rattling noise.
The one I’m working on now, right rear, looks like I’ll have space to get 2 mounting points bolted on. |
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03-30-2023, 05:49 PM | #30 | |
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I haven’t gotten the actual oem plug for the soft close motor to work. The soft close motor may also be defective. I don’t think the soft close motor uses 12v all the time. Only when the door is closed is when it needs power, so it shouldn’t throw any errors. |
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04-22-2023, 02:52 AM | #31 |
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Right front door instructions added.
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04-23-2023, 03:09 AM | #32 |
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Works as intended? Ever sort out the passenger door?
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04-23-2023, 01:20 PM | #33 |
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Yes. Right front is working great.
It is the right rear and soon to be the left rear that have issues. It looks like a power wire has to be run to the rear doors for it to work. I’m trying to find a wiring diagram for the door harness before I run an additional wire though. |
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01-15-2024, 01:14 PM | #34 | |
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I have found a full set from X5 E70 soft close with harness and plugs, did from E70 will be able to retrofit them is it have some changes from F10 soft close and even plug them somewhere different in the fuse box when you are retrofiting them? |
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01-22-2024, 09:49 PM | #35 | |
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Serf27, where were you thinking of getting supplied 12v? I got too many things piggy backing off my cigarette lighter lol
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02-28-2024, 09:17 AM | #37 |
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Thanks for the explanation you made through it I also put it on my left hand drive soft close F10 should be the parts.I can say that the feeling is quite different to the constant slamming of the doors and irritation. The only difficulty I had was with the grip of the front doors itself, which is normal because there is quite a big difference compared to the 5 and 3 series.
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02-29-2024, 07:44 AM | #38 |
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I will definitely try this on my e90. Sadly it is quite far away from me right now, so I will have to wait for a bit.
One thing I don't understand, though is how are the rear windows different such that you don't have a constant voltage line to tap into? Do they not all operate the same way? |
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02-29-2024, 12:18 PM | #39 |
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The voltage for the front door motor came from the mirrors.
The rear door has voltage at the window motor but it is not constant unless the window switch is activated (I think). The voltage for the window switch LED light is not enough to power the soft close motor. |
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02-29-2024, 12:24 PM | #40 |
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For those asking about using different actuators:
I only recommend doing this with F10 and F01 actuators and motors. The e70 uses a shorter cable and it makes it extremely difficult to assemble inside of the door and the cable does not have enough slack for you to mount the motor to the door. To get power to the rear doors, I tapped into my fuse box a while ago and ran a power wire to my PDC module. That power wire is under the carpet. I may try using that for a power source. For those with PDC or RDC, you should also have a power wire under the passenger side carpet that you might be able to access. More info on that later. 1 rear actuator and SC motor is already installed, I just need to run power to it. Update on the drivers side: The small rubber mount on the motor ripped, but since I only used one mounting point/nut, I swapped a rubber mount from the motor to where it was mounted in the car. The second rubber mount also ripped soon after, so I think it is best to use a bolt to go through the door and directly bolted to the motor where the rubber mount goes. Passenger side is working fine. Last edited by Serf27; 03-01-2024 at 12:52 AM.. |
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Something I didn't really think about until just now..
Serf27, do your doors shut slowly & smoothly? My front doors virtually slam shut every time; then try to soft close after they've already shut
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03-01-2024, 12:55 AM | #42 | |
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If you tap the door closed, it is a much smoother close. In both scenarios, the door doesn’t fully close and the motor pulls it closed afterwards. You’re saying your door will be completely closed and then the motor continues working? Does the motor click when this happens? |
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03-01-2024, 04:41 AM | #43 |
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this is well known retrofit in eastern europe
the best soft close actuators for e9x is from f07 5gt cars because they have longest bowden cables thats why the used actuators from f07 cost two or four times more of the actuators from f01
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I used new aftermarket from eBay that were much cheaper. I may try the new F07 for the left rear. |
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