DIY: MPG to Oil Temp on Gauge Cluster

eljay · 03-06-2019, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by nsjames

it's always been possible to recode this using NCS.

the perfekt toolbos software does make it incredibly easy.

bmw tools can be found at the bimmer geeks website under the download section.

and just to top this all off, I recently bought and shipped a 7K rpm cluster to a guy that's going to print me OE style gauge faces to properly put the oil temp scale in the 7K RPM tacho.

I will post information after we're done with the R&D, but soon it will be possible to just get new gauge face and have a stock looking 7K RPM tach with an oil temp.

Can the tacho scale be corrected in the Perfekt Toolbox so the 335i tacho face can be used and provide accurate reading for N52?

Nickco43 · 03-06-2019, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by eljay

Can the tacho scale be corrected in the Perfekt Toolbox so the 335i tacho face can be used and provide accurate reading for N52?

Yes.

mecheng77 · 03-08-2019, 06:30 AM

At first I thought it didn't work on my first trip which was quick but in cold weather the oil temp doesn't track water temp, it took a long time to get to 100c. This is good to know!

A few notes, after confirming you are connecting in INPA, close INPA or it won't work.
Make a note that you have to enter the numbers from right to left.

On metric cars the 10 corresponds to 100c so it's pretty neat. I could make 15 - 150c but lose resolution.

Thanks OP

singhr · 03-08-2019, 09:55 AM

Thanks OP. This worked great and I am happy to have a useless gauge put to work!

Now I am trying to figure out if I can fix my analog speedometer to show actual/real speed instead of the BMW "corrected" one.

rocky25b · 03-08-2019, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickco43

Yes.

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mecheng77 · 03-08-2019, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by singhr

Thanks OP. This worked great and I am happy to have a useless gauge put to work!

Now I am trying to figure out if I can fix my analog speedometer to show actual/real speed instead of the BMW "corrected" one.

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Originally Posted by singhr

Thanks OP. This worked great and I am happy to have a useless gauge put to work!

Now I am trying to figure out if I can fix my analog speedometer to show actual/real speed instead of the BMW "corrected" one.

Yes you can code it or use the same perfect toolbox software. I like being lied to it keeps me slightly safer

Joebie · 03-08-2019, 01:10 PM

I guess I need to get good at computers I guess because oil temp would be infinitely more useful than instantaneous MPG. I wonder if they did research that actually said MPG gauge is what consumers want or if they just threw it on the dash on a whim??

Great job! I'll probably do this to my car when I'm bored some weekend.

Now that I think about it, literally anything is more useful than instantaneous MPG. I think I'd rather have a gauge, constantly stuck at '4' indicating how many doors my car has. Or maybe a gauge from 0-100% telling me how far rolled down my driver's window is.

wrongmark · 03-12-2019, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rocky25b

I am still waiting to receive them, i will post a picture once i have them installed. These go over the stock ones.

Looking forward to seeing these installed. Only problem for me is the oil temperature being in deg F. I'm a metric person (European).

Anyone know if I can take frankinstein a cheap 335i tacho off ebay in to mine?

rocky25b · 03-12-2019, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wrongmark

Looking forward to seeing these installed. Only problem for me is the oil temperature being in deg F. I'm a metric person (European).

Anyone know if I can take frankinstein a cheap 335i tacho off ebay in to mine?

I will upload a picture later today, i was able to buy a 335i donor cluster and use a heat gun to remove the tach face and apply it to my 328 cluster...worked great! I don't think there is any other way to do it, everything on the market are just overlays.

rocky25b · 03-12-2019, 07:35 PM

I am still waiting on M3 style needles in the mail. Thanks to Nickco43 i was able to get the tach reading properly.

Joebie · 04-21-2019, 02:09 PM

I did this mod today with perfekt toolbox and it worked beautifully.

I actually was having trouble doing it the "other" way with Tool32, but the method described in this thread worked great.

Finally rid of that stupid MPG gauge and got something reasonably useful in its place now! Thanks!!

Schmitz · 04-21-2019, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rocky25b

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Originally Posted by wrongmark

Looking forward to seeing these installed. Only problem for me is the oil temperature being in deg F. I'm a metric person (European).

Anyone know if I can take frankinstein a cheap 335i tacho off ebay in to mine?

I will upload a picture later today, i was able to buy a 335i donor cluster and use a heat gun to remove the tach face and apply it to my 328 cluster...worked great! I don't think there is any other way to do it, everything on the market are just overlays.

You can just buy a cluster with the oil temperature instead of mpg gauge. Just make sure the used cluster has fewer miles / km on it that your car since your car will eventually take the higher mileage of the used cluster. Happened to me!

K_Troopa · 06-14-2019, 12:30 PM

Did this a couple nights ago and I'm so glad the mpg gauge is no longer useless.

rod.bearings · 09-07-2019, 01:03 PM

Anyone try this on 335D?

colorado.e9x · 10-01-2019, 09:12 PM

I calculated my own oil temp parameters based off the actual oil temp gauges like the one above (160 - 250 - 340)

71, 96, 121, 146, 171

Can anyone with a 335i or e92 328i find the default parameters of the entire thing for us?
Starting offset, damping factor, oil temp parameters, motor steps

Would be much appreciated

IllSic_Design · 10-01-2019, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by colorado.e9x

I calculated my own oil temp parameters based off the actual oil temp gauges like the one above (160 - 250 - 340)

71, 96, 121, 146, 171

Can anyone with a 335i or e92 328i find the default parameters of the entire thing for us?
Starting offset, damping factor, oil temp parameters, motor steps

Would be much appreciated

This guide should have the info you are looking for: www. n54 exclusive . com/dialsdiy

WTF does e90post censor every other BMW site, wtf they aren't even a message board

colorado.e9x · 10-01-2019, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IllSic_Design

Quote:

Originally Posted by colorado.e9x

I calculated my own oil temp parameters based off the actual oil temp gauges like the one above (160 - 250 - 340)

71, 96, 121, 146, 171

Can anyone with a 335i or e92 328i find the default parameters of the entire thing for us?
Starting offset, damping factor, oil temp parameters, motor steps

Would be much appreciated

This guide should have the info you are looking for: www. n54 exclusive . com/dialsdiy

WTF does e90post censor every other BMW site, wtf they aren't even a message board

I checked it out, looks like everything other than their custom oil temp range is the same. Thanks for that! Now I just need someone who has the stock gauge to confirm everything one more time

IllSic_Design · 10-02-2019, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by colorado.e9x

I checked it out, looks like everything other than their custom oil temp range is the same. Thanks for that! Now I just need someone who has the stock gauge to confirm everything one more time

Oops sorry, I thought I remembered them showing the before(stock) numbers on there. I will get a screenshot of mine if I can remember after work tonight.

IllSic_Design · 10-02-2019, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by colorado.e9x

I checked it out, looks like everything other than their custom oil temp range is the same. Thanks for that! Now I just need someone who has the stock gauge to confirm everything one more time

Oops sorry, I thought I remembered them showing the before(stock) numbers on there. I will get a screenshot of mine if I can remember after work tonight.

IllSic_Design · 10-02-2019, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by colorado.e9x

I checked it out, looks like everything other than their custom oil temp range is the same. Thanks for that! Now I just need someone who has the stock gauge to confirm everything one more time

Oops sorry, I thought I remembered them showing the before(stock) numbers on there. I will get a screenshot of mine if I can remember after work tonight.

IllSic_Design · 10-02-2019, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by colorado.e9x

I checked it out, looks like everything other than their custom oil temp range is the same. Thanks for that! Now I just need someone who has the stock gauge to confirm everything one more time

Ooops sorry, I thought they had the before after numbers on there. If I remember I'll take a screenshot tonight of my stock settings.

colorado.e9x · 10-10-2019, 12:24 AM

Update: Not sure if I like the stock temp gauge for N52s. Since I coded it to start at 160 °F the dial doesn't move until it's passed that of course. My daily commute to work and back is 15 minutes max each way. Sometimes the engine doesn't even reach 160 on the colder days.

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