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      03-03-2023, 11:40 AM   #23
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It was posted last night that the non HEA allocation total was 159 for the entire Country. That does not qualify as plenty..
All about perspective, when considering there have been zero modifiable allocations, 100+ seems like plenty.
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What BMW does not want you to know.. the M2 will outperform M3/M4.. also being cheaper. This always been the case with the M2.. how do we build the M2 without making it outshine the rest…. BMW knows what they are doing. Also being nervous about reviews testing the M2 against it’s only family members..
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What BMW does not want you to know.. the M2 will outperform M3/M4.. also being cheaper. This always been the case with the M2.. how do we build the M2 without making it outshine the rest…. BMW knows what they are doing. Also being nervous about reviews testing the M2 against it’s only family members..
+1 ,

Regardless of what the model is called the M2 is the spiritual successor to the E92/E46 M3.

The current M3 is an M5 from the early 2000's.
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Ditto

As a former E92 M3 owner I completely agree. I was instantly drawn to this car.
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+1 ,

Regardless of what the model is called the M2 is the spiritual successor to the E92/E46 M3.

The current M3 is an M5 from the early 2000's.
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What pisses me off about how long this has taken to roll out is the M3 CS was announced like what, a month ago or something? Some stores are already getting allocations for them before M2 allocations and the M2 was announced going on half a year ago. Wtf!
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What BMW does not want you to know.. the M2 will outperform M3/M4.. also being cheaper. This always been the case with the M2.. how do we build the M2 without making it outshine the rest…. BMW knows what they are doing. Also being nervous about reviews testing the M2 against it’s only family members..
Maybe that’s a problem with bmw. They should stop comparing it to their own lineup. Maybe that’s why the m2 came out ugly since they used the m4 as a basis. If they compared it to a rs3 or BW or Porsche, they would have design it to actually look good. And stop using a subpar manual when a CTR or BW which are both low volume have better ones.
On the flip side, I am intrigued how this will perform across all competitors.
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I'm in Portland Oregon, Kuni BMW ..this has been just about 2 yrs since I started this waiting list, my sales guy says they have 34 people on their list..ha, woohooo
34 people and only 2 allocations so far. It's going to be a long wait for some people.
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Influencers should be blocked permanently.
Who exactly do influencers influence?

I really do not understand the concept.
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I'm in Portland Oregon, Kuni BMW ..this has been just about 2 yrs since I started this waiting list, my sales guy says they have 34 people on their list..ha, woohooo


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Who exactly do influencers influence?

I really do not understand the concept.
Imagine being a proper journalist and being lumped into the same group as influencers.
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Ha ha i like it, yea your right, ... ..
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As a former E92 M3 owner I completely agree. I was instantly drawn to this car.
I’ve had the very first of the E46, E92 and F82 M3/4 Coupes. Passed on the G82; it’s gotten too big. This may be just right. Wish it were lighter, but at least there is still a manual!
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Ha ha i like it, yea your right, ... ..
34 on a waiting list? That's complete fiction, some sales manager's wet dream. If a CA told me that I'd dump that dealership in a heartbeat and find somebody else to work with.

Let's face it, if that were actually true, all these HEA cars floating around, many available at MSRP, would have been snapped up instantly. But they haven't been.
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All about perspective, when considering there have been zero modifiable allocations, 100+ seems like plenty.
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34 on a waiting list? That's complete fiction, some sales manager's wet dream. If a CA told me that I'd dump that dealership in a heartbeat and find somebody else to work with.

Let's face it, if that were actually true, all these HEA cars floating around, many available at MSRP, would have been snapped up instantly. But they haven't been.
Unfortunately I have heard that from a couple folks, that their waiting list was fairly big, it doesn't hurt me at this point as I started the list and have gotten my allocation, with my dealer being pretty much.. on as far as what I've heard from them, to what I've followed here on the internet where everything you read is true..ha ha, so if they say 34 ..they have 34 ...my car will show up when the manufacturer gets them built and out to us that are buyers, wet dream or not..looks like mine will be here before to long
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34 on a waiting list? That's complete fiction, some sales manager's wet dream. If a CA told me that I'd dump that dealership in a heartbeat and find somebody else to work with.

Let's face it, if that were actually true, all these HEA cars floating around, many available at MSRP, would have been snapped up instantly. But they haven't been.
What would be the incintive of lying about how many people are in the order bank? I agree with what you are saying, I just can't figure out the strategy.
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Long waiting lists and long waits.............fail eh? Try order a Ferrari. Longer waits lol. Longer lists and insane profit. Nothing smells like failure more than money LOL.
Think M2 is bad check out the boondoggle for the Lotus Emira. Couple years of wait listing and repeated delivery delays. It’s an industry-wide issue. Demand is high and supplies are low. Lots of unmet demand since 2020. It’ll take a couple more years to sort out.
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What would be the incintive of lying about how many people are in the order bank? I agree with what you are saying, I just can't figure out the strategy.
My CA said there was 10+ people in the order bank qnd they were all paying ADM's. I later found out that both were lies, no one was paying ADM's and there were only ~6 in the order bank.

Not sure what the motive is there either lol
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My CA said there was 10+ people in the order bank qnd they were all paying ADM's. I later found out that both were lies, no one was paying ADM's and there were only ~6 in the order bank.

Not sure what the motive is there either lol
Idk this particular scenario obviously, but I've seen several cases where it can appear to be a lie, but in reality they just had bad info or marching orders from someone else about the situation.

It's easy for us to armchair and tell ourselves stories, but in the end few people actually have the facts to judge more often than not.
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What would be the incintive of lying about how many people are in the order bank? I agree with what you are saying, I just can't figure out the strategy.
It is puzzling, but then again, if I had a dollar for every time a car salesman has blatantly lied to me about something totally inconsequential in the last 50 years, I'd be a billionaire.
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