Replacing Cowl Filters

TDIwyse · 01-15-2014, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FormerRotor

AEM dryflow (off amazon). No gains; just freeing up room as I try to figure out spacing for some things. The noises are purdy, though. I have mixed feelings about it from a design standpoint, but no losses according to TDIs logs.

Man, that M3 cowl is pretty. I like it.

I've been running that air filter for several months as well. It's shown a bit of hp advantage using the Torque App measurements and also gave me a slightly faster trap speed in the 1/4 mile (110.2 mph) vs the OEM intake. Adds some sound too. To make it fit well on the MAF I used about 1/2" off the end of a 3"x3" rubber plumbing coupler for Lowe's to bridge the difference in diameter of the MAF housing and filter. Fits nice and tight with that rubber ring in there.

JDG · 01-15-2014, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TDIwyse

Man, that M3 cowl is pretty. I like it.

I've been running that air filter for several months as well. It's shown a bit of hp advantage using the Torque App measurements and also gave me a slightly faster trap speed in the 1/4 mile (110.2 mph) vs the OEM intake. Adds some sound too. To make it fit well on the MAF I used about 1/2" off the end of a 3"x3" rubber plumbing coupler for Lowe's to bridge the difference in diameter of the MAF housing and filter. Fits nice and tight with that rubber ring in there.

have you been popping any codes for yours? I get one when I mash it if its cold.
get P0101- powertrain: Mass or volume air flow circuit range/ performance problem

GreekboyD · 01-15-2014, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FormerRotor

AEM dryflow (off amazon). No gains; just freeing up room as I try to figure out spacing for some things. The noises are purdy, though. I have mixed feelings about it from a design standpoint, but no losses according to TDIs logs.

Very interesting. Thanks.

Puerto Rican 335d · 01-16-2014, 06:13 AM

Nice Rotor

TDIwyse · 01-16-2014, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JDG

have you been popping any codes for yours? I get one when I mash it if its cold.
get P0101- powertrain: Mass or volume air flow circuit range/ performance problem

Haven't had any issues with that. Although, the MAF readings for the same type of driving conditions (steady stead or full throttle) are slightly different than with the OEM intake using the exact same MAF. So I could see how this might be a problem depending on individual vehicle/hardware differences.

335dwagon · 01-23-2014, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JDG

well I just ordered this

1 Collision Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3
body hardware, cowl, side cover w/M3 Left $0.00 $7.90
1 Collision Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3
body hardware, cowl, side cover w/M3 Right $0.00 $7.90
1 Collision Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3
body hardware, cowl, filter housing upper, w/M3 Right $0.00 $18.76
1 Collision Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3
body hardware, cowl, filter housing upper, w/M3 Left $0.00 $18.76
1 Collision Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3
body hardware, cowl, filter housing lower, w/M3 Right $0.00 $26.93
1 Collision Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3
body hardware, cowl, filter housing lower, w/M3 Left $0.00 $26.93
1 OEM Catalog - BMW
PLASTIC BOLT $0.00 $0.60
Sub Total: $107.78
Tax $0.00
Standard Ground - US Only - Shipping $12.95
Handling Fee $2.95
Total: $123.68

part numbers:
64-31-6-958-817
64-31-6-958-818
64-31-6-958-815
64-31-6-958-816
64319144869
64319144870

filters off ebay for 40$

total about 165. a bit more than the BMS filters but all oem stuff.

Hello,
I see that you list 6 part numbers and not 7 of which you state that you used. Do you have the part numbers for the extra hardware and rubber seal that is needed?

JDG · 01-23-2014, 01:23 PM

The parts are on a 3 week back order so I haven't received anything but the filters yet. Also I only ordered one of the plastic bolts (PLASTIC BOLT $0.00 $0.60) because I was missing it from the factory setup.

Also I did not buy the rubber seal as they other thread says you can just re-use your old one. Here is the thread where I got the part numbers from, read the whole thing though theres different information throughout.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=228781&page=2

Puerto Rican 335d · 01-24-2014, 07:14 AM

This is what i put in my car and now the bastard A/C is working WAY better than OEM cowl filter

TDIwyse · 01-24-2014, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TDIwyse

Man, that M3 cowl is pretty. I like it.

Thanks for the info on this FormerRotor. Looking forward to installing this stuff and the ebay filters this weekend.

JDG · 01-24-2014, 05:12 PM

Nice. You must of gotten the last set. Mines on back order

TDIwyse · 01-24-2014, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JDG

Nice. You must of gotten the last set. Mines on back order

That's too bad. Hope it comes in soon.

If it makes you feel any better I just noticed I'm missing 64319144869 and 64319144870. So I'll be waiting a bit longer to install...

JDG · 01-24-2014, 07:25 PM

heres my note. Where did you order from? I ordered from getbmwparts.com

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**Update** Thank you again for your order. Unfortunately, part #’s 64316958818,64319144870, (housing,covering) is/are currently on national backorder from BMW. Typically, backordered items take anywhere between 2 and 3 weeks to arrive here to our facility from Germany.

TDIwyse · 01-24-2014, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JDG

heres my note. Where did you order from? I ordered from getbmwparts.com

ECS Tuning. Took awhile to get because "some" of the parts were back ordered (they didn't say which).

FormerRotor · 01-25-2014, 08:16 AM

I'm glad you guys could make use of it! Not my mod originally, but at least now the diesel group can take advantage of it.

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Originally Posted by TDIwyse

That's too bad. Hope it comes in soon.

If it makes you feel any better I just noticed I'm missing 64319144869 and 64319144870. So I'll be waiting a bit longer to install...

If you're anxious, you can install without these. These are the plastic covers that go over the Brake reservoir & piping and the ECU. One of these was on back order for me too.

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Originally Posted by JDG

heres my note. Where did you order from? I ordered from getbmwparts.com

I ordered mine from Tischer as well and I think I must have gotten the last of everything. Sorry about that.

TDIwyse · 01-25-2014, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FormerRotor

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If you're anxious, you can install without these. These are the plastic covers that go over the Brake reservoir & piping and the ECU. One of these was on back order for me too.

Thanks for the tip. Maybe I'll get to that this weekend after I play with the exhaust stuff.

TDIwyse · 01-26-2014, 04:12 PM

Got it installed. Like it. Also removed the hard plastic battery cable cover that locks into the original cowl, which allows one to zip tie the flexible cable to the black brace bars.

According to my scale it's a ~5.5 lb weight savings.

JDG · 01-26-2014, 04:20 PM

Ooo. Down to save 5lbs �� I hope to snag a wagner IC this year so that will offset the weight.

I kid of course im doing it for the cleaner engine bay.

Post pics sir!

TDIwyse · 01-26-2014, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JDG

Ooo. Down to save 5lbs �� I hope to snag a wagner IC this year so that will offset the weight.

I kid of course im doing it for the cleaner engine bay.

Post pics sir!

Oh man, I'm almost embarrassed to after seeing your beautifully clean engine bay... I live in the country on a gravel road, so you'll probably be disgusted :-)

Give me a minute and I'll snag a pic.

TDIwyse · 01-26-2014, 05:22 PM

Well, the only thing clean in my redneck engine bay is the new cowl pieces ...

The temp probe wire is where I'm checking underhood temps for possible future catch can locations that can safely deal with the extreme winter temps we get in the midwest.

Normally I have the AEM filter in place instead of the OEM stock filter box, but I was checking MAF reading comparisons between the two for another question that came up in a different thread. By the way, the AEM filter saves a couple pounds as well over the OEM setup.

So, from a weight perspective, this weekend I chopped off ~33 lbs of rear weight from the rear mufflers and ~5.5 lbs for the front cowl replacement FormerRotor shared. Combining this with the ~5 lbs saving from the EGR cooler delete, ~2 lbs of DPF material delete, and the ~ 2 lbs with the AEM filter, but add back several pounds for the 2um fuel filter and water/methanol pump, that's about 43-44 lbs net loss from stock. If my car had a New Years weight loss resolution it would be doing OK.

JDG · 01-26-2014, 08:11 PM

Shoot that engine bay isn't to bad, Some degreaser, some washing and some shine and youd be all set.

Well that certainly looks much better I'll be happy when mine shows up. Should make cleaning the catch can easier. On a side note do you think the n55 version could mount closer for your needs?

JDG · 02-03-2014, 09:14 PM

Awesome, got the shipping notification on my M3 cowl. Should have this installed Thursday!

DieselRacer · 05-31-2014, 11:48 AM

So the M3 setup uses all oem, and the Burger filters you remove the tray and install their filters, how much and how long does the oem filter last if you just leave it as oem...as in stock form not M3

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JDG Private First Class 8 Rep 140 Posts Drives: 2009 335d Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Alabama iTrader: (0)	The parts are on a 3 week back order so I haven't received anything but the filters yet. Also I only ordered one of the plastic bolts (PLASTIC BOLT $0.00 $0.60) because I was missing it from the factory setup. Also I did not buy the rubber seal as they other thread says you can just re-use your old one. Here is the thread where I got the part numbers from, read the whole thing though theres different information throughout. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=228781&page=2
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TDIwyse Colonel 622 Rep 2,408 Posts Drives: 2011 335d Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: MidWest iTrader: (0)	Got it installed. Like it. Also removed the hard plastic battery cable cover that locks into the original cowl, which allows one to zip tie the flexible cable to the black brace bars. According to my scale it's a ~5.5 lb weight savings.
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TDIwyse Colonel 622 Rep 2,408 Posts Drives: 2011 335d Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: MidWest iTrader: (0)	Well, the only thing clean in my redneck engine bay is the new cowl pieces ... The temp probe wire is where I'm checking underhood temps for possible future catch can locations that can safely deal with the extreme winter temps we get in the midwest. Normally I have the AEM filter in place instead of the OEM stock filter box, but I was checking MAF reading comparisons between the two for another question that came up in a different thread. By the way, the AEM filter saves a couple pounds as well over the OEM setup. So, from a weight perspective, this weekend I chopped off ~33 lbs of rear weight from the rear mufflers and ~5.5 lbs for the front cowl replacement FormerRotor shared. Combining this with the ~5 lbs saving from the EGR cooler delete, ~2 lbs of DPF material delete, and the ~ 2 lbs with the AEM filter, but add back several pounds for the 2um fuel filter and water/methanol pump, that's about 43-44 lbs net loss from stock. If my car had a New Years weight loss resolution it would be doing OK. Attached Images
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JDG Private First Class 8 Rep 140 Posts Drives: 2009 335d Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Alabama iTrader: (0)	Shoot that engine bay isn't to bad, Some degreaser, some washing and some shine and youd be all set. Well that certainly looks much better I'll be happy when mine shows up. Should make cleaning the catch can easier. On a side note do you think the n55 version could mount closer for your needs?
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