Official DIY HALOGEN to XENON Conversion!

SE3P_to_E90 · 09-28-2006, 04:38 PM

A few questions...

1. Do the originally xenon equipped e90's have the same controls?
2. How do I just turn on the angel eyes?
3. Can I install BREX or PMB's before putting these xenons on the car and follow the same procedure?
4. Per this information, "This conversion will give u an error for 5 sec if the car is started and the light switch is in the OFF position.
YOu will get NO error if you start the car with the light switch in the ON position," is there any way to get rid of this message?
5. Would a dealer install the xenons for me--following this DIY--and how much would they charge?

Sorry for the questions -- getting my xenon's tomorrow and you guys are like the electrical gurus.

James

SE3P_to_E90 · 10-01-2006, 10:44 PM

can anyone clarify? just got the xenons on hand...

some people have been talking about height sensors, footwell module's, a bombardment of wires to get rid of the error msg... how expensive (out of my pocket) will it be to get no message...

but foremost, can anyone answer my previous post?

SE3P_to_E90 · 10-07-2006, 05:26 PM

no one can confirm the 2 threads (questions) above?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31276
it seems that without the footwell module, there will be an error msg?

darkcloud · 10-07-2006, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SE3P_to_E90

A few questions...

1. Do the originally xenon equipped e90's have the same controls?
2. How do I just turn on the angel eyes?
3. Can I install BREX or PMB's before putting these xenons on the car and follow the same procedure?
4. Per this information, "This conversion will give u an error for 5 sec if the car is started and the light switch is in the OFF position.
YOu will get NO error if you start the car with the light switch in the ON position," is there any way to get rid of this message?
5. Would a dealer install the xenons for me--following this DIY--and how much would they charge?

Sorry for the questions -- getting my xenon's tomorrow and you guys are like the electrical gurus.

James

1. Yes the controls are the same, just plug and play if you currently have xenons.
2. Just turn your light switch to the running light position, which is one click before all the lights are turned on.
3. Putting Brex, PMB, PIAA or any bulb in the housing before installing would be the easiest. I did this with my PIAA bulbs.
4. What you stated is correct. A couple people, mainly ADHD(the brains haha) and myself(i've thrown enough money at it) are trying to figure out a fix. ADHD is trying to order a euro footwell module to see if that fixes things and I'm working with my dealership to do a complete swap, wiring, sensors and all.
5. Maybe? Depends on your dealership. Mine in particular said yes and currently I have spent a little more that 1K on the install to date. That is including the wiring modification currently provided, footwell module, and all install time. I do have adaptive euros so for me to do a complete install(getting the adaptive features to work) can and may get pretty pricey.

The current set up I have does get rid of the error message but not without problems. My high beams will not stay on, I can flash my highs but not leave on. If that's something that wont bother you then just stop there. I maybe use my high beams about 5-10 times a year for longer than just a flash. Thus I can live without it. I'm still down to doing a complete set up though.

SE3P_to_E90 · 10-07-2006, 07:04 PM

darkcloud... thank you for the info...

I mean, I posted again per your information on your last thread...

Given that, I don't care much for the highs as long as i can flash them... so you're saying that I will need the footwell module to be completely error free?

James

darkcloud · 10-07-2006, 07:40 PM

Yes, the footwell module will give you absolutely no error. No error = No leave on high beams, but can flash. Error = Everything works fine but you have an error.

That's why I got the footwell module. I do all city driving or highway so I never use my highbeams. Just make sure after you, dealership or whoever you have install your headlights, take the car to a dealership and ask them to get the part number(footwell module) for your error from programming after you install the headlights.

SE3P_to_E90 · 10-07-2006, 07:59 PM

do you know the exact part number? Thanks for the info darkcloud... i hope my dealer does the install...

and do you think i can do the install (also footwell module) myself? Or do i have to reflash the ecu?

darkcloud · 10-07-2006, 08:12 PM

I could figure out the part number I have but there are 4 or so different modules so there is no saying the one I have will work with your car. If your dealership does the install of the headlights and footwell module be prepared to spend $1k. If you just have them install the lights it will be more like $600. I got the footwell mod for $370 overnighted to my dealer. ADHD got his for $320 but it took him almost 2 or 3 weeks to get it.

Yes you can do the install yourself. ADHD says he's got the install down and can do it in like an hour and a half. But he's across the country from you. Personally I don't like messing with wiring so I would have had someone install them even if my dealer didn't agree. The footwell mod is a lot easier to install so I hear but I never looked into it and just had the dealer do it. I do know they put the car back in programming once everything was installed and updated everything and 'told' the car it now had xenons.

If I were you I would call your dealer first or maybe go in with all the install info and talk to one of the SA's. If they see the paper work they may be a little more into doing the install instead of just telling them and they just say no because it "sounds to hard". I could always give you my dealers number and the SA's name I worked with so your SA and my SA can talk, it might help.

SE3P_to_E90 · 10-07-2006, 08:20 PM

hi darkcloud... do you mind doing that for me? You can PM me the info, and i can't say that you weren't the greatest help to me at the moment!!!
thanks for that...

gah, i don't want to deal w/ all this crap, but that's what i get for not getting/waiting for xenons initially right??

dmm325 · 10-11-2006, 07:40 PM

is the error message you get the same thing as if you were running out of windshield washer fluid? That little triangle with the exclamation point inside it?

I really wanna do this but am just iffy on the install part. Not sure if my dealer will do it either, i need to ask.

SE3P_to_E90 · 10-11-2006, 08:22 PM

Seems that the footwell module something w/ 999 will get rid of the error msg. And yes, that's the error msg everyone is referring to.

The footwell module and xenons (us spec) cost me approximately $1200.

Now, with the footwell module, the error will be gone--but that doesn't mean that your car doesn't have a "flaw." without the complete retrofit (which is a helluva lot of wires, height sensors, it will never be like stock).

Also, in order to get no error, you have to go to the dealer to install... It seems that they actually have to reprogram the car.

SE3P_to_E90 · 10-12-2006, 05:31 AM

On another note... As we all know, Modding is extremely addicting... so i just forumulated a question.

If i decide to put on Euro Non-Adaptive Xenons with the 999 FRM, will i have no error at all? As in, nothing will be wrong with the car, and it's as if it's stock... This is based on the fact that there are no height sensors involved, etc... anyone?

SE3P_to_E90 · 10-12-2006, 06:20 AM

Just got confirmation... the highs will not work even w/ the module (999). Matt confirmed this. However, since i'm the only one trying to run adaptives, and adhd has the non adaptives, it seems that there is a slight chance that my Highs might work.

dmm325 · 10-12-2006, 12:03 PM

Does anyone know exactly what programming from the dealer is needed on a halogen to xenon conversion?? If any??

SE3P_to_E90 · 10-12-2006, 03:38 PM

with the footwell module, you need to reprogram the entire car -- based on the information ///Matt has given me. It takes about 6hrs.

darkcloud · 10-12-2006, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SE3P_to_E90

Just got confirmation... the highs will not work even w/ the module (999). Matt confirmed this. However, since i'm the only one trying to run adaptives, and adhd has the non adaptives, it seems that there is a slight chance that my Highs might work.

I have adaptive as well dope, haha. Haven't tried part (999) either. Go ahead a let me know so I don't have to until I know the outcome

SE3P_to_E90 · 10-12-2006, 10:04 PM

i think i will be done getting the unit installed toward new years... so i still have some time. I'm just trying to gather as much information (and parts, god forbid) before i head to the dealer...

darkcloud · 10-13-2006, 08:25 AM

I suggest you read the entire original post on this subject. Print out all the install guides and pictures. You need to know everything possible about this so you can point to what needs to be done when your dealership asks.

I'm not sure which part# I have for my module so I'll have to find the box. I do have adaptives and it's a good chance I have part#999 but I dunno. ADHD and ///Matt are waiting for a euro module to see if that helps. It should be in soon and then we'll know how that goes. My dealership is looking into how much it will cost to do the rest of the conversion per the BMW PDF about xenon conversion.

///Matt · 10-27-2006, 07:04 PM

Hey guys... I was re-wiring my headlight for a different mod, and I think I may have stumbled across something on this DIY. More info to come, stay tuned! I may be able to get rid of the DRL buzz, and the error

darkcloud · 10-27-2006, 09:19 PM

you lie! i must be 2nd to know behind tyler.

///Matt · 10-27-2006, 09:30 PM

Actually, Tyler isn't available, so he's not at all to know, for now! lol

darkcloud · 10-27-2006, 09:47 PM

well let me know considering i bought that damn footwell mod that doesnt exactly work perfectly haha.

09-28-2006, 04:38 PM	#23
SE3P_to_E90 Banned 233 Rep 3,030 Posts Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MD iTrader: (29)	A few questions... 1. Do the originally xenon equipped e90's have the same controls? 2. How do I just turn on the angel eyes? 3. Can I install BREX or PMB's before putting these xenons on the car and follow the same procedure? 4. Per this information, "This conversion will give u an error for 5 sec if the car is started and the light switch is in the OFF position. YOu will get NO error if you start the car with the light switch in the ON position," is there any way to get rid of this message? 5. Would a dealer install the xenons for me--following this DIY--and how much would they charge? Sorry for the questions -- getting my xenon's tomorrow and you guys are like the electrical gurus. James
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SE3P_to_E90 Banned 233 Rep 3,030 Posts Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MD iTrader: (29)	can anyone clarify? just got the xenons on hand... some people have been talking about height sensors, footwell module's, a bombardment of wires to get rid of the error msg... how expensive (out of my pocket) will it be to get no message... but foremost, can anyone answer my previous post?
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10-07-2006, 05:26 PM	#25
SE3P_to_E90 Banned 233 Rep 3,030 Posts Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MD iTrader: (29)	no one can confirm the 2 threads (questions) above? http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31276 it seems that without the footwell module, there will be an error msg?
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SE3P_to_E90 Banned 233 Rep 3,030 Posts Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MD iTrader: (29)	darkcloud... thank you for the info... I mean, I posted again per your information on your last thread... Given that, I don't care much for the highs as long as i can flash them... so you're saying that I will need the footwell module to be completely error free? James
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10-07-2006, 07:40 PM	#28
darkcloud Colonel 351 Rep 2,385 Posts Drives: 09 VW JSW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cleveland, oh iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	Yes, the footwell module will give you absolutely no error. No error = No leave on high beams, but can flash. Error = Everything works fine but you have an error. That's why I got the footwell module. I do all city driving or highway so I never use my highbeams. Just make sure after you, dealership or whoever you have install your headlights, take the car to a dealership and ask them to get the part number(footwell module) for your error from programming after you install the headlights. __________________ retired 06 E90 325i New: 09 VW Platinum Grey Jetta Sportwagen 2.0T SEL w/DSG, panoramic sunroof and Ipod adapter
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10-07-2006, 07:59 PM	#29
SE3P_to_E90 Banned 233 Rep 3,030 Posts Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MD iTrader: (29)	do you know the exact part number? Thanks for the info darkcloud... i hope my dealer does the install... and do you think i can do the install (also footwell module) myself? Or do i have to reflash the ecu?
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10-07-2006, 08:12 PM	#30
darkcloud Colonel 351 Rep 2,385 Posts Drives: 09 VW JSW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cleveland, oh iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	I could figure out the part number I have but there are 4 or so different modules so there is no saying the one I have will work with your car. If your dealership does the install of the headlights and footwell module be prepared to spend $1k. If you just have them install the lights it will be more like $600. I got the footwell mod for $370 overnighted to my dealer. ADHD got his for $320 but it took him almost 2 or 3 weeks to get it. Yes you can do the install yourself. ADHD says he's got the install down and can do it in like an hour and a half. But he's across the country from you. Personally I don't like messing with wiring so I would have had someone install them even if my dealer didn't agree. The footwell mod is a lot easier to install so I hear but I never looked into it and just had the dealer do it. I do know they put the car back in programming once everything was installed and updated everything and 'told' the car it now had xenons. If I were you I would call your dealer first or maybe go in with all the install info and talk to one of the SA's. If they see the paper work they may be a little more into doing the install instead of just telling them and they just say no because it "sounds to hard". I could always give you my dealers number and the SA's name I worked with so your SA and my SA can talk, it might help. __________________ retired 06 E90 325i New: 09 VW Platinum Grey Jetta Sportwagen 2.0T SEL w/DSG, panoramic sunroof and Ipod adapter
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10-07-2006, 08:20 PM	#31
SE3P_to_E90 Banned 233 Rep 3,030 Posts Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MD iTrader: (29)	hi darkcloud... do you mind doing that for me? You can PM me the info, and i can't say that you weren't the greatest help to me at the moment!!! thanks for that... gah, i don't want to deal w/ all this crap, but that's what i get for not getting/waiting for xenons initially right??
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10-11-2006, 07:40 PM	#32
dmm325 First Lieutenant 12 Rep 353 Posts Drives: Titanium Silver E90 335i Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pittsburgh iTrader: (6)	is the error message you get the same thing as if you were running out of windshield washer fluid? That little triangle with the exclamation point inside it? I really wanna do this but am just iffy on the install part. Not sure if my dealer will do it either, i need to ask. __________________ 2007 E90 335i / Titanium Silver / 6-Speed / ZSP / 6FL / Turbo Tuner / Blacklines / 19 inch 5 Zigen Black with Polished Lip Sports Engines / 25% Tint
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10-11-2006, 08:22 PM	#33
SE3P_to_E90 Banned 233 Rep 3,030 Posts Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MD iTrader: (29)	Seems that the footwell module something w/ 999 will get rid of the error msg. And yes, that's the error msg everyone is referring to. The footwell module and xenons (us spec) cost me approximately $1200. Now, with the footwell module, the error will be gone--but that doesn't mean that your car doesn't have a "flaw." without the complete retrofit (which is a helluva lot of wires, height sensors, it will never be like stock). Also, in order to get no error, you have to go to the dealer to install... It seems that they actually have to reprogram the car. Last edited by SE3P_to_E90; 11-17-2006 at 04:14 PM..
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10-12-2006, 05:31 AM	#34
SE3P_to_E90 Banned 233 Rep 3,030 Posts Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MD iTrader: (29)	On another note... As we all know, Modding is extremely addicting... so i just forumulated a question. If i decide to put on Euro Non-Adaptive Xenons with the 999 FRM, will i have no error at all? As in, nothing will be wrong with the car, and it's as if it's stock... This is based on the fact that there are no height sensors involved, etc... anyone?
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10-12-2006, 06:20 AM	#35
SE3P_to_E90 Banned 233 Rep 3,030 Posts Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MD iTrader: (29)	Just got confirmation... the highs will not work even w/ the module (999). Matt confirmed this. However, since i'm the only one trying to run adaptives, and adhd has the non adaptives, it seems that there is a slight chance that my Highs might work.
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10-12-2006, 12:03 PM	#36
dmm325 First Lieutenant 12 Rep 353 Posts Drives: Titanium Silver E90 335i Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pittsburgh iTrader: (6)	Does anyone know exactly what programming from the dealer is needed on a halogen to xenon conversion?? If any?? __________________ 2007 E90 335i / Titanium Silver / 6-Speed / ZSP / 6FL / Turbo Tuner / Blacklines / 19 inch 5 Zigen Black with Polished Lip Sports Engines / 25% Tint
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10-12-2006, 03:38 PM	#37
SE3P_to_E90 Banned 233 Rep 3,030 Posts Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MD iTrader: (29)	with the footwell module, you need to reprogram the entire car -- based on the information ///Matt has given me. It takes about 6hrs.
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10-12-2006, 10:04 PM	#39
SE3P_to_E90 Banned 233 Rep 3,030 Posts Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MD iTrader: (29)	i think i will be done getting the unit installed toward new years... so i still have some time. I'm just trying to gather as much information (and parts, god forbid) before i head to the dealer...
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10-13-2006, 08:25 AM	#40
darkcloud Colonel 351 Rep 2,385 Posts Drives: 09 VW JSW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cleveland, oh iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	I suggest you read the entire original post on this subject. Print out all the install guides and pictures. You need to know everything possible about this so you can point to what needs to be done when your dealership asks. I'm not sure which part# I have for my module so I'll have to find the box. I do have adaptives and it's a good chance I have part#999 but I dunno. ADHD and ///Matt are waiting for a euro module to see if that helps. It should be in soon and then we'll know how that goes. My dealership is looking into how much it will cost to do the rest of the conversion per the BMW PDF about xenon conversion. __________________ retired 06 E90 325i New: 09 VW Platinum Grey Jetta Sportwagen 2.0T SEL w/DSG, panoramic sunroof and Ipod adapter
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10-27-2006, 07:04 PM	#41
///Matt United States Marine 333 Rep 2,748 Posts Drives: 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Hey guys... I was re-wiring my headlight for a different mod, and I think I may have stumbled across something on this DIY. More info to come, stay tuned! I may be able to get rid of the DRL buzz, and the error
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10-27-2006, 09:19 PM	#42
darkcloud Colonel 351 Rep 2,385 Posts Drives: 09 VW JSW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cleveland, oh iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	you lie! i must be 2nd to know behind tyler. __________________ retired 06 E90 325i New: 09 VW Platinum Grey Jetta Sportwagen 2.0T SEL w/DSG, panoramic sunroof and Ipod adapter
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10-27-2006, 09:30 PM	#43
///Matt United States Marine 333 Rep 2,748 Posts Drives: 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Actually, Tyler isn't available, so he's not at all to know, for now! lol
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10-27-2006, 09:47 PM	#44
darkcloud Colonel 351 Rep 2,385 Posts Drives: 09 VW JSW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cleveland, oh iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	well let me know considering i bought that damn footwell mod that doesnt exactly work perfectly haha. __________________ retired 06 E90 325i New: 09 VW Platinum Grey Jetta Sportwagen 2.0T SEL w/DSG, panoramic sunroof and Ipod adapter
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