[CJP5]

Pics of the final outcome!

[B-737]

Looks better anyways!! Well done

[wanlong]

my dct paddles worked as well by add resistors back.

[sukutash]

Originally Posted by wanlong

my dct paddles worked as well by add resistors back.

Please explain in detail how you got them to work?

[Quicksilver]

Originally Posted by CJP5

I just swapped my LCI paddles off of my sport wheel for the M paddles on the M3 wheel and they fit perfectly. The tabs lined up and the screw hole is perfectly lined up. DONE!

I don't use the paddles enough to worry about which ones they are, I just wanted them to work.

I now have a brand new set of M paddles for sale!

Thanks to all who provided input!!!

I tried the same thing, but couldn't fit my 08/2011 paddles off of my M-sport steering wheel on to the M3 steering wheel. The SMG paddles of the M3steering wheel are the same as the ones in your picture, but the cut outs on my LCI M-sport steering are different. ?????

[Capt Awesome]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

I tried the same thing, but couldn't fit my 08/2011 paddles off of my M-sport steering wheel on to the M3 steering wheel. The SMG paddles of the M3steering wheel are the same as the ones in your picture, but the cut outs on my LCI M-sport steering are different. ?????

It'll fit. It doesn't fit inside the cutout, but it'll stay in place and work like it's supposed to. If you don't look at the back, you'd never know.

[Capt Awesome]

Originally Posted by 1QuikWS6

Without having any pics - check this 1st:

Look at the black connectors on ends of your original LCI paddles, should be (2) wires. If you look real close on the black connector, there are numbers on the pin connections 1 thru 3. Take note as to which slots the LCI wires are in (i.e. 2 & 3, 1 & 3, 1 & 2, etc)

Then go look at the new DCT paddle connectors - again, should be (2) wires. See which slots those wires are in. If they are NOT in the same slots as your LCI paddles, then use a tiny screwdriver to push in on the locking tab of the metal pin on end of wire that is inserted in black connector while pulling on the wire at the same time to remove. Then push the metal pins back into the black connectors in the same slots that the wires are in on the LCI paddles.

If the wires on the DCT paddle connectors were NOT in the same numbered slots as the LCI paddles - that is the problem. Putting them in the correct numbered slots to match LCI paddle connectors should fix the problem.

If this is not the case, and the DCT paddles are in same slots as LCI paddles - then get back to us and we'll try something else...

Tried all combinations of pin placement, none of them work. LCI paddles have pins in 1&3, the DCT paddles have the pins in 2&3. I've tried moving my DCT connectors from 2 to 1 and also flip flopping 1&3. Nothing works.

I'm not sure if anyone has gotten the DCT paddles to work in an LCI car.

[Quicksilver]

Originally Posted by wanlong

my dct paddles worked as well by add resistors back.

+1

I'm also very interested to read your explanation and DIY guide!

[sukutash]

+2 I'm in the same boat and have also swapped pins to no avail!

[wanlong]

this is the structure of LCI paddle

from this post

the dct paddle only have the paddle switch part, does not have any resistors.

to get it work, we need to do the reverse, add back the resistors. I build a set of wire connecting those resistors and connect the dct paddles to pin 1&3. After add back resistors the dct paddle will have the same structure as lci paddle and will work.

ps. I forget the resistor value of the "+" paddle

[Quicksilver]

Originally Posted by wanlong

this is the structure of LCI paddle

from this post

the dct paddle only have the paddle switch part, does not have any resistors.

to get it work, we need to do the reverse, add back the resistors. I build a set of wire connecting those resistors and connect the dct paddles to pin 1&3. After add back resistors the dct paddle will have the same structure as lci paddle and will work.

ps. I forget the resistor value of the "+" paddle

Could you make somekind of plug&play harness??? Or otherwise maybe a clear instruction how you made yours.

Off course I would be willing to pay for the parts and your time!

[Capt Awesome]

Originally Posted by wanlong

this is the structure of LCI paddle

from this post

the dct paddle only have the paddle switch part, does not have any resistors.

to get it work, we need to do the reverse, add back the resistors. I build a set of wire connecting those resistors and connect the dct paddles to pin 1&3. After add back resistors the dct paddle will have the same structure as lci paddle and will work.

ps. I forget the resistor value of the "+" paddle

I'm no electrical engineer, but that circuit diagram doesn't look correct... Is that exactly how you wired the resistors into the existing switch?

[B-737]

Originally Posted by Capt Awesome

Tried all combinations of pin placement, none of them work. LCI paddles have pins in 1&3, the DCT paddles have the pins in 2&3. I've tried moving my DCT connectors from 2 to 1 and also flip flopping 1&3. Nothing works.

I'm not sure if anyone has gotten the DCT paddles to work in an LCI car.

Capt,
It sounds like your going through the steering wheel controls. What about trying to go one wire paddle wire to ground then send the other pin directly to the black plug at the wheel hub, pins 4 and 6 on that plug to each paddle. Like the photo in post #22, page 1, of this thread.

[Capt Awesome]

Originally Posted by B-737

Capt,
It sounds like your going through the steering wheel controls. What about trying to go one wire paddle wire to ground then send the other pin directly to the black plug at the wheel hub, pins 4 and 6 on that plug to each paddle. Like the photo in post #22, page 1, of this thread.

Essentially, I'm pretty sure that's what it does already. The plug into the MF buttons seems to be just a passthrough so you don't have more wires criss crossing back there. I don't see any way that it would benefit from a direct connection to the wheel hub.

I think the problem lies in the wiring of the new LCI paddles vs the M3 DCT paddles and Pre-LCI paddles. The old ones were just a simple switch with no current going through when the switch is open, whereas the LCI paddles have some current being passed through a resistor until the switch which is wired in parallel gets closed.

I think the trick is to splice in the resistors to the DCT paddle, but I haven't drawn a circuit diagram in literally a decade. However, the diagram up above doesn't look to be correct... although from the sound of it, it might still work anyways.

[B-737]

Well yes and no...

It's my understand that certain MF button sets won't work.

You have nothing to lose if you give it a go. Unpin the leads from the paddles, just use electrical tape to get one lead to a good ground, take the other pin and drop it into the black slip ring pin slots. Assemble, go for a quick drive to test. If it works u can properly fasten it after.

At least do this to rule out the MF buttons. no?

[Capt Awesome]

Originally Posted by B-737

Well yes and no...

It's my understand that certain MF button sets won't work.

You have nothing to lose if you give it a go. Unpin the leads from the paddles, just use electrical tape to get one lead to a good ground, take the other pin and drop it into the black slip ring pin slots. Assemble, go for a quick drive to test. If it works u can properly fasten it after.

At least do this to rule out the MF buttons. no?

meh, why the heck not? I've tried everything else so far. I'll report back tonight.

[B-737]

Capt,
did you give this a go last night? how did you make out?

[Capt Awesome]

Originally Posted by B-737

Capt,
did you give this a go last night? how did you make out?

Happy hour last night ended up being happy several hours ... !

I'll have a go at it tonight. really.

[B-737]

lol! niiice

[Donia330i]

so wait LCI paddles work on the m3 wheel??

[Capt Awesome]

Originally Posted by Donia330i

so wait LCI paddles work on the m3 wheel??

The footprint of the base is larger on the LCI paddles, so it will not sit flush with the cutout for the paddles on the M3 wheel. It will actually seat on top of the cutout. However, the holes line up identically, so mounting it isn't a problem and you don't really notice any difference.

I'll try to get a picture of what I'm talking about later tonight when I try rerouting the wires in my DCT paddles.

[Dozhdbog]

I have a non-sport 2011 335i with steptronic. Am I able to install paddle shifters on my car? Would I be able to if I got the BMW Electronic Performance Steering Wheel or the BMW Performance Steering Wheel?