[dickymanana]

Originally Posted by SDemetris

You guys are just straight douches. The guy is trying to provide something for the good of the community that has never been done before and you don't want him to for no reason at all. The only way any group of enthusiasts moves forward is stuff like this and you're telling him not to get us more knowledge about our cars. That makes literally no sense to me. I am convinced that every single one of you would look at the comparison if he did it and from then on we would no longer have to answer "which intake is best" questions by feeding people bullshit, because I know none of us know with evidence which has the best power gains if any.

Good point

[Taskmaster]

So...does anyone else want to give me suggestions or feedback? The shop I'm dynoing at is Proven Power in Tampa (http://www.provenpowertampa.com/Home_Page.php) if anyone wants to be a part of the action.

And Thanks for SDemetris for keeping everyone in line - I know myself and a few others would like to get the best bank for our bucks.

[SDemetris]

No problem. you're doing good work for everyone. I'll PM you this weekend about sending you my stock box with a K&N filter

[Johnny D]

Originally Posted by SDemetris

You guys are just straight douches. The guy is trying to provide something for the good of the community that has never been done before and you don't want him to for no reason at all. The only way any group of enthusiasts moves forward is stuff like this and you're telling him not to get us more knowledge about our cars. That makes literally no sense to me. I am convinced that every single one of you would look at the comparison if he did it and from then on we would no longer have to answer "which intake is best" questions by feeding people bullshit, because I know none of us know with evidence which has the best power gains if any.

This is why it's pointless to take on this project. Same car, same day, same dyno, same temps. No changes to the car made yet the dyno speaks for itself.

[Taskmaster]

^ And so what? So because someone didn't let a vehicle reach opporating temp until it's on a dyno - all dynos are inaccurate? Maybe you missed my other thread where I stated this isnt my first rodeo

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=925546

I'm well aware how a dyno works, I've had my own personal cars on them many times. So what does you dyno prove?

[Johnny D]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

^ And so what? So because someone didn't let a vehicle reach opporating temp until it's on a dyno - all dynos are inaccurate? Maybe you missed my other thread where I stated this isnt my first rodeo

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=925546

I'm well aware how a dyno works, I've had my own personal cars on them many times. So what does you dyno prove?

Vehicle was properly dyno'd. Re-read the thread and what people are telling you. You wouldn't need to ask what this dyno proves if you knew what you were talking about.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Johnny D

Vehicle was properly dyno'd. Re-read the thread and what people are telling you. You wouldn't need to ask what this dyno proves if you knew what you were talking about.

Oh, now you're going to piss me off. Post the thread where that dyno came from. If there were no changes on the dyno - then problem lies with the car adapting to changes while it's being dynoed. I just linked you to my own dyno thread with my pervious car where I had been multiple dyno pulls.

What have you proved? Nothing.
Where is your dyno experience? You have none.
What do you know that I don't? Jack shit.

[Johnny D]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Oh, now you're going to piss me off. Post the thread where that dyno came from. If there were no changes on the dyno - then problem lies with the car adapting to changes while it's being dynoed. I just linked you to my own dyno thread with my pervious car where I had been multiple dyno pulls.

What have you proved? Nothing.
Where is your dyno experience? You have none.
What do you know that I don't? Jack shit.

I know nothing. Do your test. All the best.

[Crusader]

I think everyone is in agreement that a CAI doesn't do much. I would suspect that the degree of experimental error (dyno run) might exceed the difference between various solutions. So the expense of multi runs might not be justified by the results; but it's not my nickel.

[SDemetris]

Woah. This got pretty charged pretty fast. Ill take some responsibility. I was unaware dyno runs could vary ~20hp between runs and some of my words were pretty charged. I was just trying to tell people to let the man do his thing. discouraging people is generally not a good thing to do. sorry for getting everyone excited

[AlpineSwift]

Anybody have some popcorn they wanna share?

[Eagle1oh7]

Y'all muthas angry.

[BeachsideF30]

Lmao, Ive never seen so many people bicker over 1.5hp.

If anyone is interested I am selling my afe cold air intake

[Taskmaster]

Just nevermind. I'll still do the test, but I will not post the results.

[Mike.]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Just nevermind. I'll still do the test, but I will not post the results.

No post it....if anything it could serve as knowledge..

Fuck these guys that have nothing better to do than hate

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Emozoo

No post it....if anything it could serve as knowledge..

Fuck these guys that have nothing better to do than hate

Honestly, it's absolutely infuriating to read what half of these people post on here. You don't want actual proof of what works and what doesn't? Why would you want to waste your money - why WOULDN'T you want to know. Who celebrates ignorance?

I kept linking the peanut gallery to my prior dynos - I know all about BMW's "Superawesome" airboxes and intakes that don't work - I still managed find some hidden power over a hacked oem box with a relatively inexpensive intake. Why is this considered a bad thing?

[Mike.]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Honestly, it's absolutely infuriating to read what half of these people post on here. You don't want actual proof of what works and what doesn't? Why would you want to waste your money - why WOULDN'T you want to know. Who celebrates ignorance?

I kept linking the peanut gallery to my prior dynos - I know all about BMW's "Superawesome" airboxes and intakes that don't work - I still managed find some hidden power over a hacked oem box with a relatively inexpensive intake. Why is this considered a bad thing?

CAUSE YOU AINT GOT THE ANSWERS, SWAY /kanyerant

just post it up..don,t worry about it...they,ll appreciate it

[Dylanize]

Hey man, go for it! It's your money and time.

I am curious, but I don't think the results will be surprising.

Edit: Just a side note, I think it has been mentioned, but i think you should do the test with the hood closed for the open filter intakes.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Dylanize

Hey man, go for it! It's your money and time.

I am curious, but I don't think the results will be surprising.

Edit: Just a side note, I think it has been mentioned, but i think you should do the test with the hood closed for the open filter intakes.

Why would I dyno with the hood closed?

[Johnny D]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Why would I dyno with the hood closed?

Heat soak with open air filter elements has been shown to create a loss of power, but you knew that already.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Johnny D

Heat soak with open air filter elements has been shown to create a loss of power, but you knew that already.

I do, so let mw ask you - Besides a dyno, when will you be at 100% load and have no airflow?