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      01-06-2008, 02:15 AM   #23
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This second figure is a composite that shows the results from the JB2HR (black line), JB2R (red line), JB2 (green line) and my 997S (blue line). All runs made using same gtech pro rr unit on same location.

Take a look at the 0-130 and compare to the Porsche...

Any comments?
I'd still rather have the Porsche.
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      01-06-2008, 02:17 AM   #24
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By the way, I have asked the moderators to cancel my membership to this forum after the crap of the last two days so this is probably the last post from me. It has been fun but there is too much bias and i will take my comments elsewhere. It has been fun, over and out.
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      01-06-2008, 02:54 AM   #25
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Tbone, i wish i could do that, but i don't have a nearby track. The numbers from my 997S and 335xi stock and previously from my e46M3 and e60M5 were all consistent with others numbers from both car magazine tests and track numbers. The acceleration runs are also consistent, witness the three runs from today one on top of the other even using a 6 speed. Hotrod's has covered this enough and i am confident of the numbers. How about this, i will accept accelerometer data for the challenge.
From a quick search it looks like you have a track less than 55 miles from you if you're in boston. They have weekly open nights but they are closed for the winter.

http://www.newenglanddragway.com/html/home.php

Should be an easy trip once they open. Great numbers on the GTech none the less
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Your game is stale and reeks of terry, g-tech and all.
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Stick around catdog. Don't let them run you off.

Great #s there by the way.

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      01-06-2008, 07:54 AM   #28
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how come the weight for your car is 3900 pounds on the gtech? wouldn't that affect the results
No absolutely no effect, that's just a number that teh gtech uses to calculate the theoretical hp and torque that would be needed to achieve this kind of acceleration. Have you checked the 335xi weight with a half tank and a 200 lbs person? pretty close to 3900lbs
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      01-06-2008, 07:57 AM   #29
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From a quick search it looks like you have a track less than 55 miles from you if you're in boston. They have weekly open nights but they are closed for the winter.

http://www.newenglanddragway.com/html/home.php

Should be an easy trip once they open. Great numbers on the GTech none the less
Thank you for forwarding that link, i will make it there; i want the numbers official and on dragtimes.
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      01-06-2008, 08:01 AM   #30
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Your game is stale and reeks of terry, g-tech and all.
And your game is what exactly, comparing dyno runs from the comfort of your armchair?
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      01-06-2008, 08:11 AM   #31
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Temperature was 36F tonight.

Tank was half full.

Gas is 3 gallons of unleaded sunoco 104 and 8 gallons of mobil 93 (mean octane 96).

60 ft 1.854 s
0-60 mph 3.983 s
1/8 mile 7.974@92.58 mph
1/4 mile 12.220@115.62 mph

You don't really believe your car is faster than Terry (a very good drag racer with more mod) or Shiv (putting out more power) The only 335 that is faster then yours is the VIP Tuning. Something doesn't add up - or maybe your car is the freakiest of freaks.

And yes I have a 335xi. I know what the drive train eats up compared to what it buys you off the line.
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      01-06-2008, 08:20 AM   #32
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You don't really believe your car is faster than Terry (a very good drag racer with more mod) or Shiv (putting out more power) The only 335 that is faster then yours is the VIP Tuning. Something doesn't add up - or maybe your car is the freakiest of freaks.

And yes I have a 335xi. I know what the drive train eats up compared to what it buys you off the line.
I do believe the numbers and am going to take off the JB2 next and go back to stock and get stock numbers. As soon as the drag strip in NH opens up in April i will go and get numbers as well. I have no reason to disbelieve them, they have been consistent across cars and in the same car as i went from jb2 to jb2r and now jb2hr. Drag radials do not make any difference in the xi you should know that traction is NOT an issue, the only issue is how much to slip clutch and at what rpm to start and how to feather the gas so that you are on boost when you start letting up the clutch. DSC is off in all these runs. The xdrive does not eat as much as you think obviously, it's not the same awd setup as in other cars. The numbers are what they are on the two graphs, not altered and the road is flat, slightly uphill if anything.
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Hey catdog. Glad you changed your mind. Place wouldn't be the same without ya.
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      01-06-2008, 08:49 AM   #34
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Hey catdog. Glad you changed your mind. Place wouldn't be the same without ya.
i'm still waiting for administrator to respond to my email, just that i can't help responding until then...
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      01-06-2008, 09:36 AM   #35
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By the way, I have asked the moderators to cancel my membership to this forum after the crap of the last two days so this is probably the last post from me. It has been fun but there is too much bias and i will take my comments elsewhere. It has been fun, over and out.
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So let me get this right. You need to have your membership cancelled to e90 before you will leave?

I predict e90 will be no longer in existence in a few days with this mass exodus of FREE terry peps.
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you don't need the moderator to cancel your memebership, just don't use this forum anymore...This forum is kind of a war zone for tuners and users...Its been like that ever since I can remember, but that kind of stuff usually amuses me...I mean what the hell, we are in these forums to learn new stuff about our cars and also pass time...like reading a news paper...But if this kind of stuff annoys you, then I would think that u are toooo sensitive and need to get some back bone...I mean it is just a forum of people with subjective and objective thoughts...You ever heard of "sticks and stone may break my bones, but words cannot kill me!!"
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      01-06-2008, 10:06 AM   #39
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Catdog you need to stay on here. I want to know what happens when you go to the drag strip, etc. I am very curious. Also, let me know what cars you run up against, and leave in your wake. (Especially somewhat modded STI, EV0s, GTOs). We need some drama on this forum. Some other forums don't have any arguments, and they are so BORING! A little argument and skepticism actually makes forgood entertainment, and actually is a good opportunity for people to validate their claims. I personally think it is much more beneficial having Shiv questioning Terry's claims, and vice versa, think about it, we really do need these checks and balances. If anyone is going to defend their own products, and see flaws in someone elses opinions, its the tuners themselves. And kind of like the people's court (or a FORUM), let the people digest this information and form their own opinons and decide. The moderators may think they are protecting forum members from misleading information, when actually the opposite may be the end result.
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So what was your launching technique with AWD?
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      01-06-2008, 10:17 AM   #41
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So what was your launching technique with AWD?
Basically pump up rpm's to around 3000-3500 then gently slip the clutch; i have not dumped the clutch because i a afraid something will break. I had a couple of times where i overslipped the clutch. On the tree runs shown, it was a smooth transition with limited slipping, and also was on the upswing of the rpm as you are pumping the gas pedal.
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Catdog, if you do make it to the drag strip, remember to simultaneously run the Gtech. That way, even if conditions are slower at the particular track, it doesn't invalidate the accuracy of your Gtech. I mean at 2500+ DA, and 87F+ temps, my car's performance deteriorated to a 13.0x at 107.0x. But on that same day, the Evo MR was getting a 13.6, and the STI a 14.x, and a stock 335i was well into the 14's. So its all relative. Also, I was sitting in the car with the A/C running between runs. (heatsoak!). And, that was without my R switch. So things WILL be way different if I can run now with some decent track conditions.
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and the constant under current of discrediting data not achieved from certain mods...
If you would have simply posted "Hey, I'm catdog and here are some times I got" you would have been a hero. Instead you insist on carrying over your antagonistic attitude from your previous thread postings.

Your times are great no doubt, both 60' and 1/4. Just spare us the "Beat this" stuff.
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He posted it that way to get exactly this type of response - he knows what he is doing and is probably enjoying throwing e90post into a flame war.
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