Unboxed Motiv Port Injection kit

The Convert · 12-30-2014, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Allen@MOTIV

Terry has purchased a MOTIV turbo kit from us and we are excited to see how he proceeds(no pun intended) to handle tuning and fueling it. We have our methods but variety is the spice of life and people want to have options and we want them to be available.

Funny you say procede, as terry said in a thread on the other site that one of the only other tuning solutions he would use is a halltech, which is what a procede is. Lol

3000GT MR · 12-30-2014, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Convert

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allen@MOTIV

Terry has purchased a MOTIV turbo kit from us and we are excited to see how he proceeds(no pun intended) to handle tuning and fueling it. We have our methods but variety is the spice of life and people want to have options and we want them to be available.

Funny you say procede, as terry said in a thread on the other site that one of the only other tuning solutions he would use is a halltech, which is what a procede is. Lol

I hope I'm as good as I think I am...

pobudz · 01-13-2015, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveAZ

Split Second.....

But I believe Terry is working on integrating a similar "in house" solution with the JB4.

Joe, that Avatar is BA....do you have a high res copy of it I can use on our website?

My avatar (the one of my car)?

Fundguy1 · 01-13-2015, 10:14 AM

Terry said he's using a split second controller

robc1976 · 01-13-2015, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ingeniator

Terry is already testing with the CPE port kit. He isn't using anything as highend as the AEM to drive the injectors but it is the same thing. JB4/Cobb stack with AEM will work fine just a little overkill.

So terry can control the Motiv port injection?

Fundguy1 · 01-13-2015, 03:45 PM

Yes with a split second controller and flash

pobudz · 01-13-2015, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by robc1976

So terry can control the Motiv port injection?

He's controlling the CPE kit that he'll be selling. I believe he is doing things slightly different. He has posted some details in various threads on another forum.

SteveAZ · 01-14-2015, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pobudz

My avatar (the one of my car)?

Yessir

Fundguy1 · 01-14-2015, 08:38 AM

The motiv guys got back to me. They use the AEM because it can control the waste gates on a single turbo setup. Since I have a dual hybrid, the computers I have can still operate the waste gates so I don't need that. So the split second which is $600 cheaper works just as well. So depending on which setup single or hybrid you're runing you should get different ECMs.

pobudz · 02-02-2015, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveAZ

Yessir

I'll have to hunt it down, super old photo. I'll shoot ya an e-mail when I find it.

pobudz · 02-06-2015, 05:04 PM

Updated pics... AEM EMS4 included.

Lots of wiring to do... a little overwhelming. I guess "PnP" doesn't stand for plug-n-play. Otherwise, everything looks good to go. Car is in the shop getting the 750 kit installed as we speak.

2Times · 02-06-2015, 05:41 PM

These cars should have come with all this on it from the factory

EMC · 02-12-2015, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Times

These cars should have come with all this on it from the factory

It would have been nice if they had direct and port injection like the Lexus motors...at least to keep the intake valves nice and clean. That will be a side benefit of port injection. No more walnut blasting every 50k miles, etc.

2Times · 02-12-2015, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EMC

It would have been nice if they had direct and port injection like the Lexus motors...at least to keep the intake valves nice and clean. That will be a side benefit of port injection. No more walnut blasting every 50k miles, etc.

I'm also talking about a big single turbo

Aerotest · 02-13-2015, 09:54 PM

Really poor injector angle. The fuel has got to be collecting on the opposite runner wall and pooling up.

EMC · 02-13-2015, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerotest

Really poor injector angle. The fuel has got to be collecting on the opposite runner wall and pooling up.

Maybe if this ran at idle, but this is something that batch fires under high air flow, so minimal worries about spraying the walls of the intake.

robc1976 · 02-13-2015, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EMC

Maybe if this ran at idle, but this is something that batch fires under high air flow, so minimal worries about spraying the walls of the intake.

yep! Totally agree

Evil///M · 02-14-2015, 12:12 AM

I'd like to get this for my setup >

Eat.Sleep.Race · 02-15-2015, 09:45 PM

Awesome!!!!

pobudz · 03-05-2015, 11:38 AM

I'll work my way backwards on this post...

Everything installed and in its final place.

Vibrant vacuum block, recommended by Jake. Great place for the 5 bar MAP sensor to sit, and for the various vacuum lines (FPR, Manifold, BOV).

Fuel pressure regulator connected to the HPFP and secondary Stage3+ fuel pump.

Wiring everything up... easy but tedious. Lots of heat shrink and soldering.

AEM 5.2 bar MAP sensor wiring diagram for future reference

Teaser dyno graph... 7 psi "stock boost"

Teaser dyno graph... 22 psi "low boost"

Wiring notes for the AEM harness:
AEM GPIO1 -> Ground on Stage3+ fuel relay
AEM IGN SW -> Cig Lighter tap (or Green Plug/Orange wire/Pin #2 in DME box)
AEM GPIO5 -> Wastegate solenoid (MAC)
AEM Red Spare Power wire -> Wastegate solenoid (MAC)
AEM Blue Crank Signal -> Tap on DME Box/Large Black Sub connector/Pin #29
AEM White VSS -> Tap on DME Box/Grey Sub connector/Pin #17
AEM White TPS -> Tap on DME Box/Grey Sub connector/Pin #7
AEM INJ1 -> Injector harness, injectors 1 & 6
AEM INJ2 -> Injector harness, injectors 2 & 5
AEM INJ3 -> Injector harness, injectors 3 & 4
AEM Red INJ Power -> Injector harness, all injectors power wires
AEM Red/White/Black bundle -> AEM 5.2 MAP Sensor (diagram above)
AEM Red Big Power wire -> Battery positive terminal (engine bay, 10mm bolt)
AEM Black Ground -> Battery negative terminal (use ground under positive terminal in engine bay)

The Convert · 03-05-2015, 12:35 PM

Nice freakin work dude, and good call jotting down wiring notes for the rest of us!

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pobudz Private First Class 35 Rep 169 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Avondale AZ iTrader: (1)	Updated pics... AEM EMS4 included. Lots of wiring to do... a little overwhelming. I guess "PnP" doesn't stand for plug-n-play. Otherwise, everything looks good to go. Car is in the shop getting the 750 kit installed as we speak. Attached Images __________________ IG @pobudz \| '08 e92 335i - MOTIV 750 w/ PI & AEMMHD tuned, tial bov, ER cp, ADE "800HP" fmic, Corsa 3.5" catback, m3 suspension bits (F&R sway, F&R control arms), rogue toe arms, MOTIV motor mounts, UUC trans mounts and RTD shifter. H&R sports and Koni's, 17x9/17x10.5 Forgestar F14 w/ Mickeys. Quaife 3.08 LSD, M3 subframe and diff bushings. MOTIV Twin disk. Fuel-IT Stage 3+.
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pobudz Private First Class 35 Rep 169 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Avondale AZ iTrader: (1)	AEM/PI Installed! I'll work my way backwards on this post... Everything installed and in its final place. Vibrant vacuum block, recommended by Jake. Great place for the 5 bar MAP sensor to sit, and for the various vacuum lines (FPR, Manifold, BOV). Fuel pressure regulator connected to the HPFP and secondary Stage3+ fuel pump. Wiring everything up... easy but tedious. Lots of heat shrink and soldering. AEM 5.2 bar MAP sensor wiring diagram for future reference Teaser dyno graph... 7 psi "stock boost" Teaser dyno graph... 22 psi "low boost" Wiring notes for the AEM harness: AEM GPIO1 -> Ground on Stage3+ fuel relay AEM IGN SW -> Cig Lighter tap (or Green Plug/Orange wire/Pin #2 in DME box) AEM GPIO5 -> Wastegate solenoid (MAC) AEM Red Spare Power wire -> Wastegate solenoid (MAC) AEM Blue Crank Signal -> Tap on DME Box/Large Black Sub connector/Pin #29 AEM White VSS -> Tap on DME Box/Grey Sub connector/Pin #17 AEM White TPS -> Tap on DME Box/Grey Sub connector/Pin #7 AEM INJ1 -> Injector harness, injectors 1 & 6 AEM INJ2 -> Injector harness, injectors 2 & 5 AEM INJ3 -> Injector harness, injectors 3 & 4 AEM Red INJ Power -> Injector harness, all injectors power wires AEM Red/White/Black bundle -> AEM 5.2 MAP Sensor (diagram above) AEM Red Big Power wire -> Battery positive terminal (engine bay, 10mm bolt) AEM Black Ground -> Battery negative terminal (use ground under positive terminal in engine bay) __________________ IG @pobudz \| '08 e92 335i - MOTIV 750 w/ PI & AEMMHD tuned, tial bov, ER cp, ADE "800HP" fmic, Corsa 3.5" catback, m3 suspension bits (F&R sway, F&R control arms), rogue toe arms, MOTIV motor mounts, UUC trans mounts and RTD shifter. H&R sports and Koni's, 17x9/17x10.5 Forgestar F14 w/ Mickeys. Quaife 3.08 LSD, M3 subframe and diff bushings. MOTIV Twin disk. Fuel-IT Stage 3+.
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