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      01-19-2008, 10:32 PM   #23
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I dyno'd with 100 octane and my tq setting at 100 pct my whp was 370. My tq was higher but not the hp. Your right up there bro. Bump up octane and settings and youll see the numbers your looking for
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I dyno'd with 100 octane and my tq setting at 100 pct my whp was 370. My tq was higher but not the hp. Your right up there bro. Bump up octane and settings and youll see the numbers your looking for
i cant afford to run race gas, man. it costs 7.50 a gallon
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1. There were 2 huge fans in front of the car
2. boost pressure was around 15

there was a stock 335 6MT with V2 that made 347whp.
2 other stock 335's with V2 made 330whp.

so you are saying that an intake would make me gain 40whp ( to 36x whp the advertised V2 dynos.) ...i find that hard to believe.
I didn't say an intake would be worth 40whp. I just said that is unreasonable to expect more than 350whp with the factory airbox. It's certainly possible but not that easy.

It looks like your car was right within the range that it should be based upon the results of the other cars. Different dynos will/can read differently. For all we know, a stock car could have dyno'd at 260whp that day, on that dyno. This is why a stock baseline is so important. Otherwise you are just basing your satisfaction/dissatisfaction on numbers, not improvement over stock (which is what we care about).

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I didn't say an intake would be worth 40whp. I just said that is unreasonable to expect more than 350whp with the factory airbox. It's certainly possible but not that easy.

It looks like your car was right within the range that it should be based upon the results of the other cars. Different dynos will/can read differently. For all we know, a stock car could have dyno'd at 260whp that day, on that dyno. This is why a stock baseline is so important. Otherwise you are just basing your satisfaction/dissatisfaction on numbers, not improvement over stock (which is what we care about).

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ok, but i didn't dyno 350whp, like i thought i would. i dynoed 326whp. BIG difference.

whatever, i going to get a stock pull in a few days.

i'm not blaming PROcede, i guess i just went by the advertised numbers and thought i I would at least get 350whp.

i mean, i got 5whp more than a AA XEDE with the same setup that was present there. pathetic!
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man you need to get that thing installed. I think i'm installing another board memebers V2 this upcoming Monday. Where are you located in MD?


OP - those are some very nice TQ numbers....seriously.
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ok, but i didn't dyno 350whp, like i thought i would. i dynoed 326whp. BIG difference.

whatever, i going to get a stock pull in a few days.

i'm not blaming PROcede, i guess i just went by the advertised numbers and thought i I would at least get 350whp.

i mean, i got 5whp more than a AA XEDE with the same setup that was present there. pathetic!
Just because most v2 results we've seen on this forum have been in the 340-360whp range, doesn't mean that there wont be outlinders above and below that. And just because you are on the low end one particular day, doesn't mean that you will always be there. These ECUs are very adaptive to gas quality. So you are not going to make the power all the time. It's really ok. BTW, you mentioned that you are running on 92oct. Are you in the Northwest?

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Isn't the V2 upgrade worth more "unopened"?
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Regardless of numbers...how does it feel? 100% on race gas is the shit! It's all about traction in 1st and 2nd~!!!!
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1. There were 2 huge fans in front of the car
2. boost pressure was around 15

there was a stock 335 6MT with V2 that made 347whp.
2 other stock 335's with V2 made 330whp.

so you are saying that an intake would make me gain 40whp ( to 36x whp the advertised V2 dynos.) ...i find that hard to believe.
1) Shiv's dynos are all STD, your numbers are SAE... that said 360whp-336whp = 24whp (your uncorrected #) and yes he is saying that you would get this gain with an intake and he has explained on this forum why many times. The stock airbox cannot supply enough top end airflow for V2 to reach its full potential.
2) Sounds like your custom exhaust (assuming because you said 'magnaflow') might be hurting more that it is helping being that the other v2 cars with stock exhaust did better, is it mandrel bent?
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Regardless of numbers...how does it feel? 100% on race gas is the shit! It's all about traction in 1st and 2nd~!!!!
its by far the best daily driver I've ever had. It still feels like its getting faster and faster the more I drive it
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WHO CARES WHAT NUMBERS YOU GET ON A DYNO

Iv been to 5 different dyno's and they all give me different numbers, if your car feels great and you happy on the road why do you need to show off numbers ???

Look look i got the BIGGEST number

Its about how your car goes on the road there are to many things during a dyno run that can contribute to you getting lower numbers...
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ok, but i didn't dyno 350whp, like i thought i would. i dynoed 326whp. BIG difference.

whatever, i going to get a stock pull in a few days.

i'm not blaming PROcede, i guess i just went by the advertised numbers and thought i I would at least get 350whp.

i mean, i got 5whp more than a AA XEDE with the same setup that was present there. pathetic!
You have my respect for posting SAE corrected numbers and not the standard tuner friendly STD. I actually think the numbers you've stated are more accurate than the usual "freak" numbers we've seen on the forums. I often comment on this very thing!

Just by chance I own an Auto 335 with the JB2HR and my car put down 33xrwhp/385rwtq on the HR tune SAE corrected/ Smoothing on 5. I ran a mix of VP racing Streetblaze 100 (5 gallons) and 5 gallons of Shell V-Power. I have Zero mods other than the JB2HR.

You should trap around 112 in the 1/4 mile with the power you're putting to the ground.
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Just because most v2 results we've seen on this forum have been in the 340-360whp range, doesn't mean that there wont be outlinders above and below that. And just because you are on the low end one particular day, doesn't mean that you will always be there. These ECUs are very adaptive to gas quality. So you are not going to make the power all the time. It's really ok. BTW, you mentioned that you are running on 92oct. Are you in the Northwest?

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You have my respect for posting SAE corrected numbers and not the standard tuner friendly STD. I actually think the numbers you've stated are more accurate than the usual "freak" numbers we've seen on the forums. I often comment on this very thing!

Just by chance I own an Auto 335 with the JB2HR and my car put down 33xrwhp/385rwtq on the HR tune SAE corrected/ Smoothing on 5. I ran a mix of VP racing Streetblaze 100 (5 gallons) and 5 gallons of Shell V-Power. I have Zero mods other than the JB2HR.

You should trap around 112 in the 1/4 mile with the power you're putting to the ground.
Thanks, man,. I'm happy with the car itself, but i guess i got my hopes up too much in regards to the dyno and now i'm really disapointed. lesson learned.
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Why is it so hard to make 3 runs with V2 and then simply sticking in the bypass plugs to see the base numbers??? Nobody does this and its so easy
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Why is it so hard to make 3 runs with V2 and then simply sticking in the bypass plugs to see the base numbers??? Nobody does this and its so easy
I think adaption will throw off the figures, but at least it would be a data point you can use to compare.
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LOL u called that pathetic? People crack me up. I've seen V2 cars dyno 289whp on a mustang dyno with V2.
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Why is it so hard to make 3 runs with V2 and then simply sticking in the bypass plugs to see the base numbers??? Nobody does this and its so easy
+1.......I know its not the most accurate way to do it but its better than not having a baseline at all!
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i cant afford to run race gas, man. it costs 7.50 a gallon
Thats soo funny!
Here in BC, it's costing me $14.50 a gallon....
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LOL u called that pathetic? People crack me up. I've seen V2 cars dyno 289whp on a mustang dyno with V2.
HEY!! that was my car!
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I am absolutely amazed that I could not even get 330whp.

335i, 6AT PROcede V2, Magnaflow Cat-back (Catless), BMC Air Filter, 92 octane, 94%

Conditions: DynoJet, 58F, 50% Humidity

SAE
326whp, 382wtq
323whp, 378wtq

Uncorrected
340whp, 398wtq
336whp, 393wtq

No stock runs.
To think that I was actually hoping for 360whp...what a joke...i'm just happy that my car put down 10hwp more than a Jb2H worth $350
Just curious where you had it dyno-ed?
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You have my respect for posting SAE corrected numbers and not the standard tuner friendly STD
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