[HouseN54]

1.4 60 isn't needed for a 10 but does make it easier. 1.6-1.8 60 would net a 10 at those power levels

[The Convert]

Originally Posted by HouseN54

1.4 60 isn't needed for a 10 but does make it easier. 1.6-1.8 60 would net a 10 at those power levels

Getting the power to the pavement is the only issue 335's have. If we had a ford rear end, you would probably already be seeing 9 sec 335's. Power is easy...Getting it to the ground is not.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by HouseN54

1.4 60 isn't needed for a 10 but does make it easier. 1.6-1.8 60 would net a 10 at those power levels

I'm not sure I follow your point but mine was in regards to 60 foots in that a 335i would never cut a 60 foot like a Mustang.

With enough power anything can cut 10's, except a Supra, they all run 11's. (JK). That's an old joke.

The point of the video was to show much those guys focus on suspension and chassis work to cut those 60 foot times. They literally dial it in to maximize the launch. Nobody really on this platform goes to that extreme yet. Only person who was adamant about cutting a "decent" 60 foot was Shiv and that was years ago.

I'm just trying to avoid the keyboard racing, that's all. Not all RWD cars are created equally even if they have the same weight and power.

[HouseN54]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

I'm not sure I follow your point but mine was in regards to 60 foots in that a 335i would never cut a 60 foot like a Mustang.

With enough power anything can cut 10's, except a Supra, they all run 11's. (JK). That's an old joke.

HAHA i totally get it, what im saying is that the power can be put down. i used to cut 1.6 in my s2000 with IRS its just setting up the coilovers and correct tires.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by HouseN54

HAHA i totally get it, what im saying is that the power can be put down. i used to cut 1.6 in my s2000 with IRS its just setting up the coilovers and correct tires.

1.6 is good, don't get me wrong. In fact that's excellent for that car but it's still not a 1.4 and some of those old fox body mustangs are in the 1.3's.

Anyway, moving on... I was just wanting to make a point about the 60 foots and for people to stop picking on the OP. He is bringing opportunity to the platform so stop beating him up lol (not directed at you).

[HouseN54]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

1.6 is good, don't get me wrong. In fact that's excellent for that car but it's still not a 1.4 and some of those old fox body mustangs are in the 1.3's.

oh yeah i know couple of my friends have foxes running 8's with ls swap TT. we just need as a platform someone to go out there and do it. lol

[HouseN54]

for shits this is my friends 65 nova with ls swap single turbo. here you see a damn near 1.6 60' but ran 9 flat. power is unknown as it was never dyno tuned and this is stock block 6.0 liter

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Originally Posted by HouseN54

for shits this is my friends 65 nova with ls swap single turbo. here you see a damn near 1.6 60' but ran 9 flat. power is unknown as it was never dyno tuned and this is stock block 6.0 liter

you can estimate horsepower from 1/4 ET or MPH ...but you'll need the weight of the car ...one of the links from a search

estimating a weight of 3000 lbs for a 65 Nova, your friend's car could be putting down anywhere from 660 - 700 whp!

a weight of 3500 lbs is the range of 770 - 810 whp!

[HouseN54]

Originally Posted by MajesticBlueNTO

you can estimate horsepower from 1/4 ET or MPH ...but you'll need the weight of the car ...one of the links from a search

estimating a weight of 3000 lbs for a 65 Nova, your friend's car could be putting down anywhere from 660 - 700 whp!

a weight of 3500 lbs is the range of 770 - 810 whp!

thank you for that info, really puts things in perspective.

[Supra2k6]

Nice to have options but it really makes a shop look bad when they talk bad about the competition.

[Torgus]

Looking forward to learning more about this kit. About time this 9 year old platform started getting normal turbo prices. If the turbos are cheap just replace it with your turbo of choice.

[Ingeniator]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Looking forward to learning more about this kit. About time this 9 year old platform started getting normal turbo prices. If the turbos are cheap just replace it with your turbo of choice.

It was an XI so AWD and I've yet to see a slip.

EDIT: Well nice to see this place even has quotes that update to edits.

[335coupepr]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Looking forward to learning more about this kit. About time this 9 year old platform started getting normal turbo prices. If the turbos are cheap just replace it with your turbo of choice.

Exactly!

[Jason84]

On3 performance is garbage. It's all cheap Chinese knock off crap quality. If you want to run those parts on your vehicle have fun changing out the parts all the time. I can't believe how many "eBay" quality turbo companies are out there now. Look at what a turbo actually does wouldn't you want to spend more than $3-500 on a part like that ? High quality turbo companies charge more for just a rebuild than they sell a full turbo for.

Have fun and I feel sorry for anybody wanting to save money and run this garbage in the end it is not cheaper...

[jayzF30]

The way things go all they need to do is post a dyno and people will be all over it just like any other parts and why wouldn't they? Cheap, makes power, most people how this platform looks doesn't care at all about quality much or supporting quality vendors at all. They'll rather buy something dirt cheap and then go on a quest to prove to everyone how great it is compared to other more expensive options. I've seen this on this but also other platforms and just comes with time. The time of 200$ downpipes, ebay BOVs and turbo kits is here folks and its not pretty.

[einbruch10]

Originally Posted by jazze90

The way things go all they need to do is post a dyno and people will be all over it just like any other parts and why wouldn't they? Cheap, makes power, most people how this platform looks doesn't care at all about quality much or supporting quality vendors at all. They'll rather buy something dirt cheap and then go on a quest to prove to everyone how great it is compared to other more expensive options. I've seen this on this but also other platforms and just comes with time. The time of 200$ downpipes, ebay BOVs and turbo kits is here folks and its not pretty.

i personally feel like there are things in the bmw scene that are grossly overpriced. for instance the armytrix exhaust fullly optioned is like $4k... its steel tubing. dont get me wrong if i was stupid rich and wiped with benjamins id buy it because it sounds incredible, but then again id probably have a Ferrari FF coupe instead.

[335coupepr]

Originally Posted by Jason84

On3 performance is garbage. It's all cheap Chinese knock off crap quality. If you want to run those parts on your vehicle have fun changing out the parts all the time. I can't believe how many "eBay" quality turbo companies are out there now. Look at what a turbo actually does wouldn't you want to spend more than $3-500 on a part like that ? High quality turbo companies charge more for just a rebuild than they sell a full turbo for.

Have fun and I feel sorry for anybody wanting to save money and run this garbage in the end it is not cheaper...

Bro, if you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple

[3000GT MR]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

I'm not sure I follow your point but mine was in regards to 60 foots in that a 335i would never cut a 60 foot like a Mustang.

With enough power anything can cut 10's, except a Supra, they all run 11's. (JK). That's an old joke.

Your supra comment is 100% true. For years they could put down great hp numbers, but just not to the drag strip. Now they are running 10's with way less horsepower and mods than anyone could dream of back then. We are so infatuated on power numbers so that's all our vendors make. You don't need to spend $10k to rebuild a motor to be able to do what we can. Power on these motors are cheap even with over priced turbo kits in somes opinion. What has any vendor done to support traction? Nothing at all. Lsd? Yeah most modern high performance cars come with that. Axles? Yeah we break them.

[Tony@vargasturbotech]

Originally Posted by HouseN54

1.4 60 isn't needed for a 10 but does make it easier. 1.6-1.8 60 would net a 10 at those power levels

Gotta love guys who have never had a E9X to the track saying how easy it is to run a solid 1/4 time. If power on these cars translated into quick times, every person over 550WHP would be in the 10's. The suspension geometry on these cars is terrible for drag racing. Trying to compare a Mustang is just not living in reality.

[Abacus38]

Yeah no one has really took the time to setup the suspension for this car.. As stated before there plenty of IRS cars that can cutting sub 1.5 60fts even FWD cars are cutting 1.5s. The key is a having a double adjustable setup that allows you control compression and rebound independently and plenty of time at the track to get it dailed in

[HouseN54]

Originally Posted by Tony@vargasturbotech

Gotta love guys who have never had a E9X to the track saying how easy it is to run a solid 1/4 time. If power on these cars translated into quick times, every person over 550WHP would be in the 10's. The suspension geometry on these cars is terrible for drag racing. Trying to compare a Mustang is just not living in reality.

http://youtu.be/Ta3mxWeD3j0

Your suspension argument is invalid. 2015 have IRS and like the above guy said it takes some tuning. You are the one living in a alternate universe.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by 3000GT MR

Your supra comment is 100% true. For years they could put down great hp numbers, but just not to the drag strip. Now they are running 10's with way less horsepower and mods than anyone could dream of back then. We are so infatuated on power numbers so that's all our vendors make. You don't need to spend $10k to rebuild a motor to be able to do what we can. Power on these motors are cheap even with over priced turbo kits in somes opinion. What has any vendor done to support traction? Nothing at all. Lsd? Yeah most modern high performance cars come with that. Axles? Yeah we break them.

I hear ya. Yea that Supra 11's joke was great. That was at the time when there were a bunch of dyno queens of guys with 1000WHP+ but could barely scrape into the 10's. They needed the proper suspension and chassis work that a lot were missing. I remember knowing a few guys on other platforms with gobs of power, still running on stock suspension and brakes.

Originally Posted by Tony@vargasturbotech

Gotta love guys who have never had a E9X to the track saying how easy it is to run a solid 1/4 time. If power on these cars translated into quick times, every person over 550WHP would be in the 10's. The suspension geometry on these cars is terrible for drag racing. Trying to compare a Mustang is just not living in reality.

I tried explaining that haha.