[BigHoncho]

Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

We'll support both, but recommend MHD.

Why is that? Cobb still has more functionality, tables and is a more stable solution, isn't it? MHD seems to be a solution that is less expensive and more open, but that doesn't mean that the maps are better?

[Nonecure]

Originally Posted by csu87

Sell your cobb while people don't know about mhd. And get a MHD.

+1

I sold my Cobb to get the OFT, and now I have the OFT collecting dust. I don't think the OFT is worth anything, but Cobb will still fetch some money.

[WedgePerformance]

Originally Posted by BigHoncho

Why is that? Cobb still has more functionality, tables and is a more stable solution, isn't it? MHD seems to be a solution that is less expensive and more open, but that doesn't mean that the maps are better?

Sorry, but that's where you're wrong... COBB has less functionality today. MHD can log 31 channels of data at a very high refresh rate. Has adaptation reset. Options to select N20 or Stock TMAP on flash. Option to set stock or linear throttle on flash. XDF files have all of the same tables that COBB has to include knock tables and disable additional options. Stay tuned for more tables in the future. Bottom line, MHD is just better all around.

[WedgePerformance]

Originally Posted by Nonecure

+1

I sold my Cobb to get the OFT, and now I have the OFT collecting dust. I don't think the OFT is worth anything, but Cobb will still fetch some money.

Convert the OFT to BRZ/FRS and sell it.

[ATTN]

MHD ftw! I'm blown away at how easy it is now to do a back end flash. Stacked with Jb4 for its gauge jacking etc is a win win

[Redbmwm33]

Will you Support your updated DCT 335is tunes on MHD?

[WedgePerformance]

Originally Posted by artsoasis

Will you Support your updated DCT 335is tunes on MHD?

Yes, we can tune INA0S IS with MHD.

[derrick603]

Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

Convert the OFT to BRZ/FRS and sell it.

How is this done?

[Nonecure]

+1

[CarAbuser]

Originally Posted by derrick603

How is this done?

Would be interested to know how it's done too.

Luckily there is a good market for BRZ tuning in the UK.

[bantam]

Originally Posted by CarAbuser

Would be interested to know how it's done too.

Luckily there is a good market for BRZ tuning in the UK.

+3

[ferocity02]

Wedge/BuraQ, for those of us who have been tuned by you via Cobb, would you recommend switching over to MHD? Do you have any additional charges for switching?

Seems like selling the Cobb and going with MHD might be a good way to go, especially if you will continue to tune my vehicle.

[ksalih]

Originally Posted by ferocity02

Wedge/BuraQ, for those of us who have been tuned by you via Cobb, would you recommend switching over to MHD? Do you have any additional charges for switching?

Seems like selling the Cobb and going with MHD might be a good way to go, especially if you will continue to tune my vehicle.

This. I believe Wedge/BQ will support whether you have Cobb or MHD. I cannot understand though, why they recommend MHD over the AP. The additional channels for logging and faster/ease of flashing don't make it worth it in my eyes. Perhaps Wedge or BuraQ will chime in with additional reasons that make the switch worth it.

[Dmacc]

Originally Posted by ksalih

This. I believe Wedge/BQ will support whether you have Cobb or MHD. I cannot understand though, why they recommend MHD over the AP. The additional channels for logging and faster/ease of flashing don't make it worth it in my eyes. Perhaps Wedge or BuraQ will chime in with additional reasons that make the switch worth it.

Because Cobb's tables are limited, and MHD can take advantage of the updated XDFs that have recently been posted, with many more tables unlocked. Simply put MHD has more control over the car than Cobb.

[derrick603]

Originally Posted by ksalih

This. I believe Wedge/BQ will support whether you have Cobb or MHD. I cannot understand though, why they recommend MHD over the AP. The additional channels for logging and faster/ease of flashing don't make it worth it in my eyes. Perhaps Wedge or BuraQ will chime in with additional reasons that make the switch worth it.

In your opinion, what makes the Cobb solution superior?

[ferocity02]

From what I can tell, it looks like MHD can do everything that Cobb does and more, and some things it does better. And I think MHD is cheaper overall too.

Using my phone to flash and log is a huge plus as well. And the ability to upload the log to datazap.me from the phone is convenient.

[135Pats]

Originally Posted by Dmacc

Because Cobb's tables are limited, and MHD can take advantage of the updated XDFs that have recently been posted, with many more tables unlocked. Simply put MHD has more control over the car than Cobb.

For me this is the only motivation to switch. Cobb is no longer developing anything for our platform, so a lot of the table discovery isn't relevant for those of us still in ATR land.

My K+ cable arrived today so i'll be flashing to MHD tonight. I was really, really happy with Cobb so it's bittersweet.

Oh and being able to code out the Secondary O2 sensor signals is a requirement for IJE0S ST cars to run right, and I can't do that in the Cobb environment.

[Dmacc]

Originally Posted by 135Pats

For me this is the only motivation to switch. Cobb is no longer developing anything for our platform, so a lot of the table discovery isn't relevant for those of us still in ATR land.

My K+ cable arrived today so i'll be flashing to MHD tonight. I was really, really happy with Cobb so it's bittersweet.

Oh and being able to code out the Secondary O2 sensor signals is a requirement for IJE0S ST cars to run right, and I can't do that in the Cobb environment.

True that. I too like my AP very much, and in the coming months I'll be switching over to MHD once I go e85 again.

My baby was totaled a few months ago and I was lucky enough to hop into a BSM 1M, so I've been accumulating necessary FBO pieces, and will be getting a solid pump tune from BQ on the AP. once I upgrade my lpfp and acquire the appropriate flash hardware, I'll be switching to MHD for an awesome e85 tune.

Cobb support is over with so you're right about the AP sort of coming to a dead end. Really glad MHD stepped up and the community can continue to benefit from the new XDFs that will come to fruition in time. Really fun times for the n54 crowd.

[135Pats]

Originally Posted by Dmacc

True that. I too like my AP very much, and in the coming months I'll be switching over to MHD once I go e85 again.

My baby was totaled a few months ago and I was lucky enough to hop into a BSM 1M, so I've been accumulating necessary FBO pieces, and will be getting a solid pump tune from BQ on the AP. once I upgrade my lpfp and acquire the appropriate flash hardware, I'll be switching to MHD for an awesome e85 tune.

Cobb support is over with so you're right about the AP sort of coming to a dead end. Really glad MHD stepped up and the community can continue to benefit from the new XDFs that will come to fruition in time. Really fun times for the n54 crowd.

UGH, sorry to hear that man. But that's awesome you ended up in a 1M...What a car.

[ksalih]

Originally Posted by Dmacc

Because Cobb's tables are limited, and MHD can take advantage of the updated XDFs that have recently been posted, with many more tables unlocked. Simply put MHD has more control over the car than Cobb.

I didn't know this. I was under the impression that official Cobb Protuners had access to tables that Cobb protuners didn't have access to, aka MHD. Is my impression incorrect? If so, then I would make the switch!

Wedge or BuraQ...does this mean that your maps for the MHD will be different than the maps you will support for the Cobb..seeing that the tables are limited with Cobb? Aren't tables independent of the hardware used to upload them??? Currently I am receiving an e30 map from you guys (great power btw), but for the Cobb. If I can get a "better" map with more tables through the MHD, I will do so... but I am unsure if I am understanding the differences correctly.

[ksalih]

Originally Posted by derrick603

In your opinion, what makes the Cobb solution superior?

Nothing. It's just that I own a v3 AP and do not see the benefits of switching to the MHD (I'm negating the extra logging channels and ease of use as a benefit). Perhaps some will reply to my above post and clarify

[135Pats]

Originally Posted by ksalih

I didn't know this. I was under the impression that official Cobb Protuners had access to tables that Cobb protuners didn't have access to, aka MHD. Is my impression incorrect? If so, then I would make the switch!

Wedge or BuraQ...does this mean that your maps for the MHD will be different than the maps you will support for the Cobb..seeing that the tables are limited with Cobb? Aren't tables independent of the hardware used to upload them??? Currently I am receiving an e30 map from you guys (great power btw), but for the Cobb. If I can get a "better" map with more tables through the MHD, I will do so... but I am unsure if I am understanding the differences correctly.

Cobb has stopped development on our platform, I can't say I really blame them seeing as how they had their source code blatantly stolen. But I digress....The end result is that there has been good work made with regards to knock tables, torque limits, idle tables, O2 behavior, etc that is valuable for a segment of the community. Cobb isn't going to support any of that, MHD will.

For a typical FBO stock turbo car, IMO you aren't going to pick up a ton by going with MHD. Maybe some functionality, but the end result is going to be rather similar.

My 2C. They're both very good, i'm switching over to MHD but somewhat reluctantly.