[Bols]

Originally Posted by Bobble

Not just Germany but many countries in Europe

Yep, it's not something that happens everyday but mostly in phases.. I guess the police wants to get some media attention with it now and then.

They just seized 3 cars of some poor guys in Belgium about a month ago for being suspectedly tuned!

That said Europe is a bit stricter, every exhaust system needs street-certifications for Db levels etc..

[MightyMouseTech]

Can we also have a "Why I am glad I don't live in 'mericuh!" thread?

[UncleWede]

Make your own dang thread,

THIS IS 'MERICAH, Bitch!!!!

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Make your own dang thread,

THIS IS 'MERICAH, Bitch!!!!

[SunnyD]

We get to avoid the exorbitant costs for nice cars in other countries.

[V1.47fan]

The wildlife.

3 weeks ago we had a mallard nesting in the backyard.

[KingOfJericho]

Mandatory maternity leave. Oh wait... we don't have that.

[V1.47fan]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

Mandatory maternity leave. Oh wait... we don't have that.

I'm glad i dont have over 65% of my money taken by the government between personal income tax and VAT so that i can pay for your wife's maternity leave.

[Jaymax85]

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

I'm glad i dont have over 65% of my money taken by the government between personal income tax and VAT so that i can pay for your wife's maternity leave.

Lol most countries have free healthcare and free education.... younger professionals like myself are prob paying more for than that that tax rate. America is turning into a bunch of entitled assholes or heartless douchebags. No value of hard work. We need a happy medium

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

I'm glad i dont have over 65% of my money taken by the government between personal income tax and VAT so that i can pay for your wife's maternity leave.

Yes, because that's exactly what would happen...

Our national policy (FMLA) is shameful and a laughingstock.

[V1.47fan]

Originally Posted by jawwadh

Lol most countries have free healthcare and free education.... younger professionals like myself are prob paying more for than that that tax rate. America is turning into a bunch of entitled assholes or heartless douchebags. No value of hard work. We need a happy medium

Get your facts straight, it's not entitlement if you rather keep 65% of your hard earned money than donate most it to the gvt charity programs.

The Soviet Union and all the Eastern European countries already tried that, err it didnt work. You should move to France, their system, happy medium is not solvent.
Now they're thinking of 75% income tax for the top bracket and you still have the VAT.

You're pretty naive.

[David70]

The ability to sue another individual for almost anything and they will either pay me or have to fight it. Either way their costs aren't my problem.

[Bobble]

Originally Posted by jawwadh

Lol most countries have free healthcare and free education.... younger professionals like myself are prob paying more for than that that tax rate. America is turning into a bunch of entitled assholes or heartless douchebags. No value of hard work. We need a happy medium

This might be the most factually incorrect thing I have read today and I've been on TMZ.

If you know anyone who has lived in a country that has a socialized health care system then you would know it is not free, whose who work subsidize it heavily and disproportionately. VAT and GST all fund those systems as well every time you spend what little is left.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Billup

BOOOOJANNGGLESSSS!

I only like the chicken biscuit, I won't eat anything else.

BUT, now that you mention it, I love 'merica because of BBQ. Southern BBQ to be exact. MMMMMM

Is it true that every other southern state does BBQ better than Texas?

[Billup]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

Is it true that every other southern state does BBQ better than Texas?

Yes.

It's also true that everybody except Texans know that Texas really isn't all that great, too.

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

Get your facts straight, it's not entitlement if you rather keep 65% of your hard earned money than donate most it to the gvt charity programs.

The Soviet Union and all the Eastern European countries already tried that, err it didnt work. You should move to France, their system, happy medium is not solvent.
Now they're thinking of 75% income tax for the top bracket and you still have the VAT.

You're pretty naive.

Hmm, I live in Canada with socialised health care, and my tax rate is only 38%. Guess we are doing it wrong.

[Nkc]

Hong Kong's got free socialized health care too with a max of 17% tax. It's definitely less than 10% at the end of the day. What troubles me is that people still flock to private health care. To be honest, I never really put thought into it being free until now. Damn, got some thinking to do.

I guess regardless of how good a system is, we just find ways to hate it or move our criticism to other things. There will never exist a happy medium.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

Mandatory maternity leave. Oh wait... we don't have that.

We have though either parent can stay at home with the kiddo until it turns 9 months. I was truly shocked when I was told here six weeks olds go to daycare.

To below this post, the comments about stuff not being free: Sure they are not. We pay a ton of taxes but it is in our nature not to see it like that. My born family is a great example of what the free education does. My dads family was poor, and because universities are free, my dad ended up with the education he deserved. My moms family would've paid for hers easily. What people see here us getting robbed we see as opportunities shared no matter of our families class status.

Personally it has been really hard to adjust seeing people here in the states having no option because they are broke. I've brought my socialist ways here, I can't walk away when I see someone who has nothing. It is stupid how little it actually takes to give others a new start.

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by Lups

We have though either parent can stay at home with the kiddo until it turns 9 months. I was truly shocked when I was told here six weeks olds go to daycare.

It's not at all uncommon to see tiny infants in daycare. It's appalling. And don't even get me started on the cost of daycare either. I could lease twin M3s for what we pay in child care. It is quite literally a second mortgage.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

It's not at all uncommon to see tiny infants in daycare. It's appalling. And don't even get me started on the cost of daycare either. I could lease twin M3s for what we pay in child care. It is quite literally a second mortgage.

I can imagine. Ours is at max (income based) 250 euros per months on the first kid if I remember correctly and they don't accept less than 10 month olds.

I feel really lucky I got to stay home with our kids. Sure, we have taken a big financial hit for this and sure it's not what I imagined I'd do as a grownup. My ego has demanded I at least renovate our houses while at home with the kids and to try keep to as tight watch over money as possible. For years all that was truly needed in our family, and I'm quite proud of the skills learned.

I love the two M3 thing. It truly gives perspective to this conversation. In my country we have no personal leasing system and an M4 base model would cost something like 150k, but from this example you can see well where the tax euros go. In the end of the day, I can go to the shops in a VW. Probably even faster than in an M and the damn low clearance.

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by Lups

In the end of the day, I can go to the shops in a VW.

Look at my signature lol. Case in point...

[Lups]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

Look at my signature lol. Case in point...

Don't tell anyone, but I prefer the looks of that to my Peter. I've actively drooled on those for the last 7 years or so