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      09-02-2015, 04:27 PM   #23
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...... were you on run flats? Or normal tires ? I've heard mixed reviews on the b12 kit some say it's harsh while others say it more comfortable then M-sport suspension (whch is apparently not great).
All on normal (Michelin PSS) tyres. Cannot comment on b12 vs M-sport though but as mentioned before I am finding the Koni yellows far more to my liking than the b8s - as Socket said it is very much a personal preference thing. Most important for me was a far better handling car that still offered a firm but still comfortable ride.
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Out of curiosity how often do people actually adjust their shocks?
My experience is that most people pay the extra money for adjustable shocks and then just find a setting and leave it at that :P
I plan on tracking my can in the future and so am saving up for a set of PSS10's, problem is that I dont like the current height and want it a bit lower... cut the springs maybe
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My experience is that most people pay the extra money for adjustable shocks and then just find a setting and leave it at that :P
But that is the whole idea of adjustable SHOCKS - you find the setting that suits your set up (i.e. the springs; and the driving characteristics you are looking for) and leave it at that. Perhaps adjust as the shocks wear. I know some people work out their ideal road setting and also have a preferred track setting. But these are people who do occasional track days. Those who are more serious about tracking their cars would be into fully adjustable SUSPENSIONS.
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But that is the whole idea of adjustable SHOCKS - you find the setting that suits your set up (i.e. the springs; and the driving characteristics you are looking for) and leave it at that. Perhaps adjust as the shocks wear. I know some people work out their ideal road setting and also have a preferred track setting. But these are people who do occasional track days. Those who are more serious about tracking their cars would be into fully adjustable SUSPENSIONS.
I understand that is what they are meant for I am asking if anyone actually bothers to tune their shocks to their liking or whether they just pick something and go with it?

I used to have TEIN Superstreets on my R32 with an EDFC and even then I only adjusted them for track days.
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I understand that is what they are meant for I am asking if anyone actually bothers to tune their shocks to their liking or whether they just pick something and go with it?
Fair enough - I am sure that must vary between owners. I took the time to adjust settings (easier on the fronts than the rears!) to make comparisons and in the end have it where I personally like it.
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I understand that is what they are meant for I am asking if anyone actually bothers to tune their shocks to their liking or whether they just pick something and go with it?

I used to have TEIN Superstreets on my R32 with an EDFC and even then I only adjusted them for track days.
I have no idea how to do this so I just left them at the setting I got em
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Anyone know where I can get a set of FSD's for a decent price ? preferably local..
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by memory when i had koni yellows on a previous car you actually had to remove the rear shock to adjust them? Is that correct?

I must admit I left the as is...
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by memory when i had koni yellows on a previous car you actually had to remove the rear shock to adjust them? Is that correct?

I must admit I left the as is...
Fronts are under the engine bay cross brace and ifik the rears cant be adjusted in situ... genius
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Anyone know where I can get a set of FSD's for a decent price ? preferably local..
Best price I could get locally was around 1250, got them shipped from the U.S. For under a 1000, but our dollar has fallen since then. I can dig out my quotes if you want them mate.
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by memory when i had koni yellows on a previous car you actually had to remove the rear shock to adjust them? Is that correct?
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Fronts are under the engine bay cross brace and ifik the rears cant be adjusted in situ... genius
Koni adjustment instructions here > http://www.koni.com/car-racing/technology/adjustment/ (Fronts are series 8741; rears are series 8240)

The fronts are easy (if you have the supplied adjustment knob) and done under the engine bay as Socks said. The rears usually require removal from the car to adjust but this post shows a method of adjusting them without removing them > http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...02&postcount=1

The Koni website also has some hints as to the "best adjustment" on their FAQ page - http://www.koni.com/car-racing/technology/faq/ See under Adjustment/Q: What is the best adjustment setting for my shocks? (towards the bottom of the page). Out of the box, mine were all on full soft.
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by memory when i had koni yellows on a previous car you actually had to remove the rear shock to adjust them? Is that correct?

I must admit I left the as is...
I know that is the case with the Koni Red shocks, you need to remove them and completely compress them and rotate anti-clockwise to adjust them, although that was more to tighten them up when they got old.

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Best price I could get locally was around 1250, got them shipped from the U.S. For under a 1000, but our dollar has fallen since then. I can dig out my quotes if you want them mate.
Yeah our dollar is not great atm...yeah if it's not to much trouble that would be great, thanks
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May I ask why not just getting coilover?
I thought coilover is even more flexible, no?
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May I ask why not just getting coilover?
I thought coilover is even more flexible, no?
Yes there is more adjustment, but it is also more expensive especially for a good set. You could probably find a set for under 1.5k but there are usually stiffer and harsher (even on their softest setting) then a good set of springs and shocks. If you track the car it might not matter to you, but for me it's my daily that I will never take to the track. I don't really see the point in all that adjustability (apart from height) if it's just a street car.
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Yes there is more adjustment, but it is also more expensive especially for a good set. You could probably find a set for under 1.5k but there are usually stiffer and harsher (even on their softest setting) then a good set of springs and shocks. If you track the car it might not matter to you, but for me it's my daily that I will never take to the track. I don't really see the point in all that adjustability (apart from height) if it's just a street car.
I see.
I am using it as a daily too, but people are talking about the labour involved in changing the springs and shocks are similar to coilover, I feel like getting the coilover might be better since you may always adjust it in case you have change your wheel set up?
But....I haven't decided yet too.
**I feel so upset every time I see the difference in ride height between the rear left and rear right..
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I see.
I am using it as a daily too, but people are talking about the labour involved in changing the springs and shocks are similar to coilover, I feel like getting the coilover might be better since you may always adjust it in case you have change your wheel set up?
But....I haven't decided yet too.
**I feel so upset every time I see the difference in ride height between the rear left and rear right..
I would assume the labour to be the same, I completely agree with you coil overs would be better in that case. But like I said if you want a good coil over it is expensive. It just depends on how much your willing a to spend, and if your happy with a harsher ride. I know I have that as well, I think that is a design issue, my understanding is that the left side is slightly higher to compensate for the driver weight, for perfect weight distribution. In our case since our cars are RHD, it probably makes it worse lol. I think if your have the money to stretch for a good coil over kit, then that would be a better option for you. However if you don't then a good spring and shock combo would ride a million times better then a entry level coil over kit.
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