[F30lolz]

I just clean my wheels every damn day. Problem solved.

[Welcome to NBA Jam]

Use ceramic pads and wheel wax.

[Cory S]

Ceramic pads suck IMHO... Sure they last a long time, but terrible feedback and chew up rotors pretty good. Nothing but a good Semi-metallic or Organic pad for me.

[Mr. Tasty]

Originally Posted by Cory S

Believe it or not, he is speaking truth here. This will decrease excessive brake dust by around 60%.

Give your car plenty of time to stop (Also will put you at less of a chance of rear ending someone/something etc)

Leave more room in front of you to prepare for braking situations. (You will only need light pressure VS. heavier brake pedal pressures)

Coast to stop lights and traffic stops etc.

Avoid jack rabbit starts for no reason.

I very rarely need to apply much braking force, and even after a week or two, I have hardly even a noticeable amount of dust on mine.

These are habits that some people learn with age however.

My wife and I both have insanely efficient driving styles when it comes to smoothness of throttle and braking, both 25. She has put 120k miles on her daily and her original brake pads have at least 50% left.

[Cory S]

Originally Posted by Mr. Tasty

My wife and I both have insanely efficient driving styles when it comes to smoothness of throttle and braking, both 25. She has put 120k miles on her daily and her original brake pads have at least 50% left.

That's phenominal. Nice job!

[John 070]

Originally Posted by Mr. Tasty

My wife and I both have insanely efficient driving styles when it comes to smoothness of throttle and braking, both 25. She has put 120k miles on her daily and her original brake pads have at least 50% left.

I know on my Nissan, I first replaced the fronts at 65k or so, and they were only about 2/3 gone. Then, I did the rears at 89k, and they were about 75% gone.

The interesting thing is that today, rear brakes commonly wear faster than fronts (not physics, I think stability, traction, etc.).

On my 335i, I did all 4 incl rotors (because I am so rich and love wasting money lol), at 50k. I would say all 4 rotors are techincally good but I don't have a measuring device. The front pads were maybe 60% worn, and the rears were maybe 80% worn.

The rears get annoying with that squeak squeak sound beginning maybe 25-30k in. As soon as new OEM are put in there, squeak squeak totally gone.

Even with a loaner I tend to be easy on the brakes. Some of that comes from my dad teaching me to be sympathetic to machines. When I was first driving he did not tolerate lugging the motor (on a stick), nor riding the clutch.

[Miller335]

Originally Posted by Mr. Tasty

My wife and I both have insanely efficient driving styles when it comes to smoothness of throttle and braking, both 25. She has put 120k miles on her daily and her original brake pads have at least 50% left.

F that I'd hate to be behind her. Sounds like she has hypermiler habits.

[NiNeTyOne]

The pre-2010 OE pad, a semi-metalic, is both high dust and horrible initial bite and even worse release characteristics. The pad does not apply in a linear matter, which almost guarantees initial brake application upsets the chassis, and it releases very abruptly which also tends to upset the chassis when transitioning off the brakes.

This horrible performance characteristic is further worsened by the fact that few drivers really know how to use brakes properly.

As I mentioned elsewhere, I have tested over 30 pad compounds over the years for both track and street use. Some of the endurance pads I've tested are upwards of $600 a set for front brakes alone.

The Hawks are lower dust, but by no means the lowest out there, and they are fairly aggressive on rotors compared to Posi-Quiets or Akebono Ceramics. Your rotors will last twice as long with those (maybe longer with the Posi-Quiet)

The characteristics I look for in a street pad are linear, clean application of friction, transfer layer stability, lack of fading, low dust, high rotor life and clean, smooth, predictable release.

Another post mentioned the Akebono ceramics, which are pretty good (they still have a pretty abrupt release). However the Centric Posi-Quiet 105 compound is far and away the very best at meeting all the above criteria in my experience. No pad I've tested generates as little dust, and they are incredibly kind to your rotors (just a bit better on rotor wear than the Akebono ceramic).

Another big plus with these pads is that an entire set, front and rear, is less than $90.

They don't make this pad compound for every car, so depending on your make/model you may have to use the 104 compound on the fronts, which is not quite as awesome in the dust department, but still light years ahead of the OE pads.

[John 070]

Originally Posted by NiNeTyOne

The pre-2010 OE pad, a semi-metalic, is both high dust and horrible initial bite and even worse release characteristics. The pad does not apply in a linear matter, which almost guarantees initial brake application upsets the chassis, and it releases very abruptly which also tends to upset the chassis when transitioning off the brakes.

This horrible performance characteristic is further worsened by the fact that few drivers really know how to use brakes properly.

As I mentioned elsewhere, I have tested over 30 pad compounds over the years for both track and street use. Some of the endurance pads I've tested are upwards of $600 a set for front brakes alone.

The Hawks are lower dust, but by no means the lowest out there, and they are fairly aggressive on rotors compared to Posi-Quiets or Akebono Ceramics. Your rotors will last twice as long with those (maybe longer with the Posi-Quiet)

The characteristics I look for in a street pad are linear, clean application of friction, transfer layer stability, lack of fading, low dust, high rotor life and clean, smooth, predictable release.

Another post mentioned the Akebono ceramics, which are pretty good (they still have a pretty abrupt release). However the Centric Posi-Quiet 105 compound is far and away the very best at meeting all the above criteria in my experience. No pad I've tested generates as little dust, and they are incredibly kind to your rotors (just a bit better on rotor wear than the Akebono ceramic).

Another big plus with these pads is that an entire set, front and rear, is less than $90.

They don't make this pad compound for every car, so depending on your make/model you may have to use the 104 compound on the fronts, which is not quite as awesome in the dust department, but still light years ahead of the OE pads.

if you accept that rotors get changed with pads, then we're back to OEM, except for dust. I get it, my wife's uncle is a mechanic in Munich and he says you don't need to change your rotors every time, you do not stop 155 to 0 repeatedly like we do over here.

But, if you have a lifetime warranty on OEM rotors, then who cares? Now, you can go by the book and change them every time.

[bartbes]

My brakes needed service so i am having ferodo ds 2500 installed right now.
Should give less dust and better performace, hope it's an improvement, things cost €300..

[Mr. Tasty]

Originally Posted by Miller335

F that I'd hate to be behind her. Sounds like she has hypermiler habits.

you are incorrect, just an aware driver and knowledgeable of conservation of energy. Nice try though cutie.

[VTECaddict]

Originally Posted by NiNeTyOne

The pre-2010 OE pad, a semi-metalic, is both high dust and horrible initial bite and even worse release characteristics. The pad does not apply in a linear matter, which almost guarantees initial brake application upsets the chassis, and it releases very abruptly which also tends to upset the chassis when transitioning off the brakes.

How do you feel about the 2010+ OEM pads in comparison? Are they ceramic?

[NiNeTyOne]

Originally Posted by VTECaddict

How do you feel about the 2010+ OEM pads in comparison? Are they ceramic?

They are better than the older semi-mets, but very hard on rotors. I believe it's why BMW chose that pad, it helps them sell labor and rotor changes. Service is BMW's profit center. Do the math.

As I said, the 104 and 105 compound is by far the best street pad I've tested. Low/no dust, great linear feel, especially with stainless lines, and super kind to the rotor. Your rotors with these pads will outlast the OE setup 4:1

[Joey93]

I switched to drums all around. Zero brake dust.

[Seattlesquash]

Originally Posted by Joey93

I switched to drums all around. Zero brake dust.

One of the best ideas so far, brilliant sir. Who care about the brake performance anyways.

[hongsc]

Had pretty much zero brake dust. Changed my pads out with Hawk 5.0 and they dust quite a bit then there's the noise until it warms up. Then I get random squeaking. The joys of "upgrading."

[NightStalker]

i have akebono pads..zero brake dust stopping power is just as good. they had good reviews as well on the forum here.

[NightStalker]

Originally Posted by hongsc

Had pretty much zero brake dust. Changed my pads out with Hawk 5.0 and they dust quite a bit then there's the noise until it warms up. Then I get random squeaking. The joys of "upgrading."

i hate hawk pads they were the worst and also the noise was annoying even after break in..switched to akebono. much better

[Miller335]

Originally Posted by Joey93

I switched to drums all around. Zero brake dust.

[Torobimmer]

Hawk HPS Street brake pads is a step up vs Akebono Ceramics brake pads in terms of braking power. Akebono Ceramics braking power -2 points vs BMW original pads. If that makes any sense. IMO get the Hawk HPS Street vs Akebono. So what if you have to wash it 2x a month with Hawk HPS vs 1x a month with Akebono. You'll need every inch or foot of that road to stop if ever you get involved in an accident.

[=C=]

I've given up cleaning the wheels.

My silver wheels turn into to matte black after week.


May look at replacing OEM pads with Hawk's when the time comes.

[larrysing]

Originally Posted by Joey93

I switched to drums all around. Zero brake dust.

Where did you get a drum kit that fits the 335? I've looked around since I saw your comment and do not see one for sale anywhere....

A little info here would be appreciated....Thanks much !!!