Its official...the 335 has new competition...

TahBOSS · 03-29-2008, 12:17 AM

Fastest car for under 30k?

Year's_End · 03-29-2008, 12:25 AM

From what I've heard...

OBI_agent · 03-29-2008, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Roowah

To me, it's not all about raw horsepower and straightline numbers. I'm sure there are numerous cars that can beat a 335. However, where BMW's in general shine is how they are engineered to balance power and handling with finesse. It's all in the engineering and what makes a BMW a BMW.

Its a fine piece of engineering. Amazingly , it handles well

! Check out the article on www.edmunds.com or caranddriver

....the handling numbers are pretty darn close to 3 series

Bimmeration · 03-29-2008, 12:51 AM

probably performance-wise. nothing more.

McLuVan · 03-29-2008, 12:57 AM

........
pontiac......
nuff said

BMdblU · 03-29-2008, 12:58 AM

The SRT4 can be killer fast with a couple mods. So what, it's a neon. Not to sound like a prick or anything

Same goes for the G8 imo

MrOffshore · 03-29-2008, 01:02 AM

That piece o'shat g8 isn't competition for me...besides it's a plastic laden piece of junk that will have 50 rattles in 6 months. Pontiac doesn't know how to build automobiles...you would think they did, but they don't.

toofasttooslow · 03-29-2008, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Munich_Menace

1) wrong forum
2) amerikan junk

You do know that this is a Holden Commodore don't you? Or am I assuming you have enough intellect to tell the difference?

"The Holden Commodore is an automobile produced by the Holden division of General Motors (GM) in Australia, and formerly in New Zealand. In the late 1970s, Holden established proposals to replace the long-serving Kingswood nameplate with an all-new smaller model. Holden looked to Opel (another GM subsidiary) for inspiration, and based the Commodore on the Opel Rekord."

"The Opel Rekord is an executive car from the German automaker Opel"

Stick THAT in your pipe and smoke it

quagmire · 03-29-2008, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLuVan

........
pontiac......
nuff said

BMW snob....
nuff said

Quote:

That piece o'shat g8 isn't competition for me...besides it's a plastic laden piece of junk that will have 50 rattles in 6 months. Pontiac doesn't know how to build automobiles...you would think they did, but they don't.

Get your head out of your ass and actually look at some of GM's latest offerings( Aura, Malibu, Astra, Vue, G8, CTS) and you can see quality at GM has improved drastically. But, I understand if you want to stay in the past considering today's state of the union........

Mattscott · 03-29-2008, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gum5h03

You do know that this is a Holden Commodore don't you? Or am I assuming you have enough intellect to tell the difference?

"The Holden Commodore is an automobile produced by the Holden division of General Motors (GM) in Australia, and formerly in New Zealand. In the late 1970s, Holden established proposals to replace the long-serving Kingswood nameplate with an all-new smaller model. Holden looked to Opel (another GM subsidiary) for inspiration, and based the Commodore on the Opel Rekord."

"The Opel Rekord is an executive car from the German automaker Opel"

Stick THAT in your pipe and smoke it

<3 google and wiki

Mattscott · 03-29-2008, 01:09 AM

They can make anyone seem so smart

cooldude · 03-29-2008, 01:14 AM

3 series is entry segment car, and g8 is top of the models of pontiac.

si you know why people surround around bmw because of all those m3z and m5z

but imagine adding a turbo to that 6 liter v8

Corky71 · 03-29-2008, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by grumpybear

Say hello to the Pontiac G8...

View Video on FQuick

Stock: 2.03 60ft, 13.39 @ 104.7
Tune: 2.00 60ft, 13.10 @ 107.5
100 shot: 1.96 60ft, 12.49 @ 114 mph

For what it's worth, this was at ATCO Raceway.

If you're basing it only off of performance they already had competition from similar or cheaper price ranges. The Mustang GT 500, all the SRT's, Base Corvette, Sti's and EVO's to name a few....

toofasttooslow · 03-29-2008, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattscott

They can make anyone seem so smart

No it's called reading son. Maybe you should google it sometime...

Doc E · 03-29-2008, 01:28 AM

auto tranny, 361hp and 385 lb–ft hauling 3995 pounds running 13.1 with a tune?
i don't believe it. Any N/A tune will give 5whp max. Downpipes and catback with a tune is another story.

was he spraying?
and wtf is with the "new driver" "new driver", is that Pontiac's Chief of Marketing?

McLuVan · 03-29-2008, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quagmire

BMW snob....
nuff said

thanks quagmire
gigiddy gigiddy gigiddy

bobr2001 · 03-29-2008, 02:39 AM

Pontiac? 40 years ago yes...now nope!

Jonmartin · 03-29-2008, 02:39 AM

I remember when one of the head cheeses at Pontiac said they were trying to out do BMW I lauged for like an hour.

veightkiller · 03-29-2008, 02:44 AM

i;ll stick with my car.

scm6079 · 03-29-2008, 03:13 AM

I think Pontiac did a good job bringing the G8 to the US. Nice car, and I hope GM does well -- but there are simply so many reasons to buy a BMW beyond performance. I find it hard (impossible?) to believe that anyone would choose the 3 series based just off it's "bang for the buck" in performance, or "raw performance" numbers.

Don't get me wrong, I love my car -- and even after a year and a half would take it over the competition again -- but it is not the fastest or best handling car on the block. Fast and good handling enough, when added with other BMW traits (looks, reputation, personal preference, etc) is a clear winner. And I doubt very much that there are too many cross-over buyers.

Also why the 325 won Car and Drivers latest comparison, even though it was one of the (if not the very) slowest cars in the test.

_Scott

OZ!MSport · 03-29-2008, 03:18 AM

Considering this car is a re-badged Holden Commodore from Australia... you will soon see that these cars are not even close to the quality of BMW - sure they are fast... but believe me there is more to a car than straight line speed.

Cheers
Matt

ChaneRZ · 03-29-2008, 03:21 AM

go to pontiac's website. click g8. it says it's powerful than bmw 550i. LOL

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