[deepocean]

Originally Posted by JasW

Mine split (didn't melt), so I did the same with aluminum pipe and a couple of clamps. First pic is before the split to show the positioning close to the manifold (the heat shield tape is peeling off), second is the outlets with the split, third is post-install directly from the top, fourth is a bit more from the side to show that the outlets have been shortened a bit and now have a downward angle, keeping it well away from the manifold.

exactly what i did thanx bro

[JasW]

Originally Posted by deepocean

exactly what i did thanx bro

Yup. I'd rather just fix it than come on here and whine about it for days on end. I don't know where this mindset comes from, that if you mod your car, everything is supposed to work perfectly. The correct mindset is: this is a time and/or money pit, and shit happens. Once you accept that, you can enjoy your car. And life, for that matter.

[deepocean]

well said brother

[whosdady]

Originally Posted by JasW

Yup. I'd rather just fix it than come on here and whine about it for days on end. I don't know where this mindset comes from, that if you mod your car, everything is supposed to work perfectly. The correct mindset is: this is a time and/or money pit, and shit happens. Once you accept that, you can enjoy your car. And life, for that matter.

Wow, It seemed like just a few days ago you were happy with this trash. They failed even quicker than I expected. Is it safe to say you installed them correctly? MMP outlets should be checked every time you fill up with gas... I bet the other guys promoting MMP outlets (from the other thread) are probably sharing the same pain.

It's amazing to me that bmw owners can be satisfied with such a low quality product. This platform has sure taken a nose dive...

[fredcase]

Op's outlets split in the same place i posted pictures of, right where these get folded to stuff in a box for shipping. The op's outlets didn't even melt.

Bad batch?

[JasW]

Originally Posted by whosdady

Wow, It seemed like just a few days ago you were happy with this trash. They failed even quicker than I expected. Is it safe to say you installed them correctly? MMP outlets should be checked every time you fill up with gas... I bet the other guys promoting MMP outlets (from the other thread) are probably sharing the same pain.

It's amazing to me that bmw owners can be satisfied with such a low quality product. This platform has sure taken a nose dive...

Originally Posted by fredcase

Op's outlets split in the same place i posted pictures of, right where these get folded to stuff in a box for shipping. The op's outlets didn't even melt.

Bad batch?

You two should get your story straight -- is it poor quality or just poor packaging? Or poor installation?

I remember when inlets alone were $400 -- way way back in the dark ages of oh, early 2016. Both MMP inlets and outlets were $385 total. I still made out even with the aluminum pipe fix.

You two may now carry on with your whining circlejerk.

[whosdady]

Originally Posted by JasW

You two should get your story straight -- is it poor quality or just poor packaging? Or poor installation?

I remember when inlets alone were $400 -- way way back in the dark ages of oh, early 2016. Both MMP inlets and outlets were $385 total. I still made out even with the aluminum pipe fix.

You two may now carry on with your whining circlejerk.

As I mentioned before, if you're looking for low quality parts that fail you have succeeded by choosing MMP.

Whether they melt or split makes zero difference to me or anyone else. The result is still the same. I hope you choose similar low quality parts for the rest of your car.

While your at it, I've heard sugar makes your engine blow up if you put it in the oil. You should try it. Since you clearly don't care about the longevity of your car...

[JasW]

Originally Posted by whosdady

As I mentioned before, if you're looking for low quality parts that fail you have succeeded by choosing MMP.

Whether they melt or split makes zero difference to me or anyone else. The result is still the same. I hope you choose similar low quality parts for the rest of your car.

While your at it, I've heard sugar makes your engine blow up if you put it in the oil. You should try it. Since you clearly don't care about the longevity of your car...

You're a piece of . . . work. I hope you get hit by a bus.

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by JasW

You two should get your story straight -- is it poor quality or just poor packaging? Or poor installation?

I remember when inlets alone were $400 -- way way back in the dark ages of oh, early 2016. Both MMP inlets and outlets were $385 total. I still made out even with the aluminum pipe fix.

You two may now carry on with your whining circlejerk.

IIRC they started at $500+ for inlets alone.

[fredcase]

Originally Posted by whosdady

As I mentioned before, if you're looking for low quality parts that fail you have succeeded by choosing MMP.

Whether they melt or split makes zero difference to me or anyone else. The result is still the same. I hope you choose similar low quality parts for the rest of your car.

While your at it, I've heard sugar makes your engine blow up if you put it in the oil. You should try it. Since you clearly don't care about the longevity of your car...

^this

These parts are clearly of sub par quality, yet the people at e90post bash anyone who addresses this.

[whosdady]

Originally Posted by JasW

You're a piece of . . . work. I hope you get hit by a bus.

I'm sure you realize how little your opinion matters to me...

My posts are directed to those that are trying to improve the performance and longevity of their car. Clearly you're not in either of those categories.

You should continue your "tough guy" mentality and buy your low quality/cheap parts at Home Depot. Instead of saving $40, you could save $350. They maybe having a special this week for losers...

[335is-dct]

Originally Posted by JasW

Yup. I'd rather just fix it than come on here and whine about it for days on end. I don't know where this mindset comes from, that if you mod your car, everything is supposed to work perfectly. The correct mindset is: this is a time and/or money pit, and shit happens. Once you accept that, you can enjoy your car. And life, for that matter.

aftermarket parts are solid with a warranty of implied merchantability, ie that they are going to work for what their purpose is without defect or failure. that is where the "mindset" comes from. just because its an aftermarket car part doesn't give it some magic free pass to be shitty and have a high failure rate.

[csu87]

Originally Posted by whosdady

As I mentioned before, if you're looking for low quality parts that fail you have succeeded by choosing MMP.

Whether they melt or split makes zero difference to me or anyone else. The result is still the same. I hope you choose similar low quality parts for the rest of your car.

While your at it, I've heard sugar makes your engine blow up if you put it in the oil. You should try it. Since you clearly don't care about the longevity of your car...

Originally Posted by fredcase

^this

These parts are clearly of sub par quality, yet the people at e90post bash anyone who addresses this.

You guys do realize that every manufacturer of silicone outlets has failures right? Or are you just on the fuck mmp bandwagon and forget about all the others.

[fredcase]

Originally Posted by csu87

You guys do realize that every manufacturer of silicone outlets has failures right? Or are you just on the fuck mmp bandwagon and forget about all the others.

I only have experience with my mmp outlets failing. Then mauricio lying about me demanding a free replacement, then lying about offering me a $100 replacement.

Also, i haven't read any posts about other outlets melting. Just lots of mmp ones.

[csu87]

Originally Posted by fredcase

I only have experience with my mmp outlets failing. Then mauricio lying about me demanding a free replacement, then lying about offering me a $100 replacement.

Also, i haven't read any posts about other outlets melting. Just lots of mmp ones.

you need to read more. Just last week on one of the other sites, there was a guy mentioning his VTT outlets melting/blowing.

[fredcase]

Originally Posted by csu87

you need to read more. Just last week on one of the other sites, there was a guy mentioning his VTT outlets melting/blowing.

Link?

[csu87]

i have literally read 10s of thousands of posts since last week. I think I saw it in a thread on nfiftyfour maybe on bb, but not sure which or what thread

[whosdady]

Originally Posted by csu87

You guys do realize that every manufacturer of silicone outlets has failures right? Or are you just on the fuck mmp bandwagon and forget about all the others.

You are correct. I think the other brands have had a couple of failures, which every brand is entitled to. But nothing even close to that of MMP.

The MMP failure rate is unacceptable regardless of how you quantify it. And it's likely much worse than they are letting on. You were a part of the 14 page thread last week. There are so many problems with their design...

Hopefully your outlets have not failed yet. If they haven't, it's only a matter of time... Several of the MMP fanboys from the last thread have already had issues. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more unsatisfied MMP customers than there are satisfied customers. (at this point in time)

[JasW]

Originally Posted by whosdady

I'm sure you realize how little your opinion matters to me...

My posts are directed to those that are trying to improve the performance and longevity of their car. Clearly you're not in either of those categories.

You should continue your "tough guy" mentality and buy your low quality/cheap parts at Home Depot. Instead of saving $40, you could save $350. They maybe having a special this week for losers...

Good luck with your deep seated psychological problems.

[JasW]

Originally Posted by 335is-dct

aftermarket parts are solid with a warranty of implied merchantability, ie that they are going to work for what their purpose is without defect or failure. that is where the "mindset" comes from. just because its an aftermarket car part doesn't give it some magic free pass to be shitty and have a high failure rate.

Very true. And Mauricio offered to replace mine gratis if I sent the split one back. That's because my problem wasn't one of improper installation.

[whosdady]

Originally Posted by JasW

Good luck with your deep seated psychological problems.

Your personal attacks are almost as pathetic as the MMP parts themselves...

But good news, I've heard there are so many problems that MMP has finally started to hand out free replacements. And are working to modify the original design. My question is concerning the countless number of guys that already paid $100 for the defective, replacement parts. Will MMP be refunding them that $100?

[fredcase]

[QUOTE=But good news, I've heard there are so many problems that MMP has finally started to hand out free replacements. And are working to modify the original design. My question is concerning the countless number of guys that already paid $100 for the defective, replacement parts. Will MMP be refunding them that $100?[/QUOTE]

This is why my thread was started, too bad people wanna crap on you for it, or blame the install.