[Mr. 5]

I'm also surprised about the Dinan numbers.
I'm not just looking at the 1/4 mile times. I'm looking at the trap.
IMO, the trap isn't too good.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by sleepdoc

May be true. However this is a same track, same night, heads up comparo. Some may take it as a pretty good way to compare the tunes.

With one big except: Step vs. 6mt. Those Steps are damn fast in a straight line.

Regardless, good to hear your track time was less stressful this time around.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I'm also surprised about the Dinan numbers.
I'm not just looking at the 1/4 mile times. I'm looking at the trap.
IMO, the trap isn't too good.

Mr. 5, nothing at all really looks good about it you know. If he missed a shift, the trap should be even lower than that.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I'm also surprised about the Dinan numbers.
I'm not just looking at the 1/4 mile times. I'm looking at the trap.
IMO, the trap isn't too good.

Mr.5, not everyone can trap/shift/launch like you

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Mr.5, not everyone can trap/shift/launch like you

Bubbles, the trap should still be higher regardless of this guys shifting skills.

[fedinand]

There is somethin wrong - those numbers are bad even for a stock 335.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by fedinand

There is somethin wrong - those numbers are bad even for a stock 335.

The V2 are not bad at all. In fact, on run flats it seems legit to me.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Bubbles, the trap should still be higher regardless of this guys shifting skills.

That Dinan's warranty adds about 300 lbs to the car's weight.

Originally Posted by fedinand

There is somethin wrong - those numbers are bad even for a stock 335.

I told you all Dinan is for chicks. Sleepdoc, is the Dinan driver a member here? Did he have Ocha's midget stuffed in the trunk?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

With one big except: Step vs. 6mt. Those Steps are damn fast in a straight line.

Regardless, good to hear your track time was less stressful this time around.

Steps tend to have a ET advantage because they are easier to hook up. But they offer no advantage when it comes to trap speed which is what most people are comparing here.

Shiv

[ybbiz34]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

If I recall reading correctly, the v2 driver only got in 1 run, ran 91oct (not 100oct like funkdoc) and had 300lbs of junk in his car So I'm not sure how fair of a comparison it is. FWIW, I've run 112mph traps at that same track back when I only had a catback and ran v2.0.2. Also on 100oct so I think that is more of a apples to apples comparo. Cheers,
shiv

Like I said, many variables. Do we know the circumstances surrounding the Dinan time? Driver, gas, weight in the car, etc.? I was just trying to illustrate the fact you can't use 1 or 2 times to set the standard for what tunes are capable of. I think everyone would agree with that. How about the comparison between funkdoc's time, and sleepdoc's time. Is that comparison better? Even with this, no doubt the Procede trapped higher.

I was congratulating sleepdoc on his great times anyway, never trying to put down another tune.

Also, can the Dinan driver from that night comment on anything? Like someone said, those are stock-like 335i times.

[fedinand]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

The V2 are not bad at all. In fact, on run flats it seems legit to me.

I was talking about the 14+ ET and the 92mph trap on the Dinan run. Nothing wrong with the Procede run...great time and healthy trap.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by fedinand

I was talking about the 14+ ET and the 92mph trap on the Dinan run. Nothing wrong with the Procede run...great time and healthy trap.

I think the run you were referring to is for an Evo. The Dinan car ran the slip on the right (13.45@105.47mph).

[stressdoc]

WE need to run them side by side with independent drivers, and switch tracks. One huge element here is driver skill. You guys have to swap cars or better yet let an independent 335 driver test each one multiple times.

Personally I am more interested in curved track times -- input from folks with tunes that are running autocross and race tracks need to give us more feedback about how the tunes perform under those conditions.

[e.n335]

Guys, back to topic please.

Thank you,
Eugen

[fedinand]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I think the run you were referring to is for an Evo. The Dinan car ran the slip on the right (13.45@105.47mph).

Oh Snap, 14+ for a modded Evo w/ a 2+ 60 foot? OK, never mind

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

With one big except: Step vs. 6mt. Those Steps are damn fast in a straight line.

I wonder how the 6MT was shifting. It could be suffering the same lull after the shifts other 6MT owners have experienced. This would explain some of the difference.

[redlinejunkie]

The ideal thing to try was after the initial heads up, the driver with the better time shoul drive the dinan. That would tell a lot about the two tunes. We have to eliminate the BIGGEST SINGLE VARIBALE for that day, which is the 2 different driver!!

[remydlc]

nice numbers for V2. something must have had gone wrong with the Dinan car. Not everyone can shift fast, especially if he didnt have experience before on the track? Did he?

[radgator1]

Originally Posted by ybbiz34

Well, the same night that funkdoc ran his car, a v2 Procede ran a 13.3-4, but that doesn't mean I took that as the end-all comparison between the tunes. So many variables. But no doubt the info. is useful.

I was concentrating more on your outstanding numbers, anyway.

Exactly, AT vs MT and octane have a lot to do with it. As stated by Hotrod it all comes down to how much boost you are running, what octane you have, and traction, not so much which tune. Dinan at 13psi should be able to (and has) run better times than those.

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by radgator1

Exactly, AT vs MT and octane have a lot to do with it. As stated by Hotrod it all comes down to how much boost you are running, what octane you have, and traction, not so much which tune. Dinan at 13psi should be able to (and has) run better times than those.

Agreed, but it will never be as fast as a 15psi tune, what a V2 usually is. Perform the same race with the same cars and engines in 3 years ... then you will see the real winner .

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by e.n335

Agreed, but it will never be as fast as a 15psi tune, what a V2 usually is. Perform the same race with the same cars and engines in 3 years ... then you will see the real winner .

With that logic, I'll just run 7psi instead. Because I'm really looking forward to running against the guy down the street in 10 years.

Seriously now, where do you pull these forecasts from? Is it what you think or what you hope?

-shiv

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by e.n335

Agreed, but it will never be as fast as a 15psi tune, what a V2 usually is. Perform the same race with the same cars and engines in 3 years ... then you will see the real winner .

That is an big assumption with no supporting data.