CIC Firmware Version and firmware Upgrade

Aus335iguy · 05-11-2017, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pierre26

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Originally Posted by rocksarntpeople

I recently picked up a full CIC set with Combox Telematics all out of the same 2011 BMW 335i. Im waiting for my emulator to come in to get it going, but I want to make sure all the software/firmware is correct before I start coding.

Does anyone know what version CIC firmware is needed (as well as how to check it) to allow for non-fsc BMW Apps? Can this be upgraded or downgraded accordingly?

Also, should I recode my VIN into the combox and CIC or leave the donor VIN...benefits of each?

About First question answer details to have without Fsc:
Internet and Bmw online need CIC.c13 version and for combox c.mediar05 one.
About BMW Apps it is CIC.C16

Above needs FSC and is 800.

BUT: today downgrade to V41 isn't mandatory as a patch is on the air, allowing all what you want with the last upgrade (mandatory to patch right place).
https://mega.nz/#!C50zQT5I!J2GNqrt6P...d5mMXMPsXhXEk0

Hi mate I have cic 08 and internet and online but not apps

Pierre26 · 05-14-2017, 05:27 AM

@Aus335iguy
You have the answer: upgrade to V41 then scripting to create on start the 9C in /mnt/HBpersistence/009C0001.swt or to Patch (how is in the FA)
According what you say it seems that this is the Combox version which allows the rights.
Factory fitted Mulf2 but I 'm just waiting for a Combox to do that and as you my CiC is C08, so thanks, will try next week with some spare time and report.

Aus335iguy · 05-14-2017, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pierre26

@Aus335iguy
You have the answer: upgrade to V41 then scripting to create on start the 9C in /mnt/HBpersistence/009C0001.swt or to Patch (how is in the FA)
According what you say it seems that this is the Combox version which allows the rights.
Factory fitted Mulf2 but I 'm just waiting for a Combox to do that and as you my CiC is C08, so thanks, will try next week with some spare time and report.

I don't have icom so can't change to v41

Pierre26 · 05-17-2017, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Aus335iguy

I don't have icom so can't change to v41

YES !! I can't believe that there NO thread according countries about sharing that or buying with others neighbors, probably because of the needed charger too.
But where I live sharing wine is easier ...

Aus335iguy · 05-17-2017, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pierre26

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Originally Posted by Aus335iguy

I don't have icom so can't change to v41

YES !! I can't believe that there NO thread according countries about sharing that or buying with others neighbors, probably because of the needed charger too.
But where I live sharing wine is easier ...

I don't understand what you mean ?

Oh you mean no one wants to share their ICOM unit ... I think not a lot of people have them. I like wine ...

Pierre26 · 05-18-2017, 01:53 AM

Exactly, I don't have but must say some time it is mandatory, so asked in a forum where I live, still waiting for the answer even with some $ ...

Greyfox · 06-13-2017, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rocksarntpeople

Im actually working on writing one up. Will post when its done!

Did you ever happen to finish the DIY?

rocksarntpeople · 06-21-2017, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyfox

Did you ever happen to finish the DIY?

I got super busy with work and was only able to complete about half of it...mostly just the CIC stuff. The Combox retrofit is much more in depth and has quite a few variables that I had to hash out. That being said, if you're looking to do this retrofit, send me a PM and I can send you what I have done, but I dont really have a time frame for when the entire thing will be finished yet...

Scrippy · 07-22-2017, 02:54 AM

There isn't that much messed up info out there. People are just crossing chassis and things vary there. I found some pdf's online with pinouts and they worked for me. Only thing I needed help with was apps. One thing in this thread that was wrong.....blue and black USB ports are the same excluding apps, 6nr doesn't care which you use. The snap in adapter is pretty much nothing more than the iPhone composite cable. I utilize apps 100% but I do not have the snap in adapter. I wired in the iPhone composite cable which had RCA's. Plug audios into 1/8" aux for sound and make up an rca video to feed FBas on CIC. BPM had to get my apps running though. Never figured that one out.

Greyfox · 07-22-2017, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrippy

There isn't that much messed up info out there. People are just crossing chassis and things vary there. I found some pdf's online with pinouts and they worked for me. Only thing I needed help with was apps. One thing in this thread that was wrong.....blue and black USB ports are the same excluding apps, 6nr doesn't care which you use. The snap in adapter is pretty much nothing more than the iPhone composite cable. I utilize apps 100% but I do not have the snap in adapter. I wired in the iPhone composite cable which had RCA's. Plug audios into 1/8" aux for sound and make up an rca video to feed FBas on CIC. BPM had to get my apps running though. Never figured that one out.

Could you either post a link to those pdfs or PM me the link?

Scrippy · 07-22-2017, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyfox

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Originally Posted by Scrippy

There isn't that much messed up info out there. People are just crossing chassis and things vary there. I found some pdf's online with pinouts and they worked for me. Only thing I needed help with was apps. One thing in this thread that was wrong.....blue and black USB ports are the same excluding apps, 6nr doesn't care which you use. The snap in adapter is pretty much nothing more than the iPhone composite cable. I utilize apps 100% but I do not have the snap in adapter. I wired in the iPhone composite cable which had RCA's. Plug audios into 1/8" aux for sound and make up an rca video to feed FBas on CIC. BPM had to get my apps running though. Never figured that one out.

Could you either post a link to those pdfs or PM me the link?

I don't have the documents anymore but it would take 2 seconds to search.....combox pinouts PDF.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...8&d=1498896504

Greyfox · 07-23-2017, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrippy

I don't have the documents anymore but it would take 2 seconds to search.....combox pinouts PDF.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...8&d=1498896504

Sorry, I thought you were referring to the CiC pinouts.

Maniac0908 · 09-05-2017, 09:38 AM

Any updates? Im waiting for my stuff to come in the mail. Diy would be nice!

Maniac0908 · 09-19-2017, 06:50 PM

So how do i see cic firmware version?

Joe@TopGearSolutions · 09-22-2017, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Maniac0908

So how do i see cic firmware version?

Easiest way is to read your CIC with NCS, and it will show you. CIC.C1A is the latest, as of DATEN v60 (and has been for a while).

Nixer · 10-18-2017, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe@TopGearSolutions

Easiest way is to read your CIC with NCS, and it will show you. CIC.C1A is the latest, as of DATEN v60 (and has been for a while).

When I use NCS it changes from C08 to C10.... now what software version I'm on?

Joe@TopGearSolutions · 10-18-2017, 01:39 PM

You're on CIC.C10, which is pretty old. I'm not quite sure which DATEN that was released in though.

cyman83 · 11-08-2017, 05:28 PM

which cable are you guys using to update cic firmware?

AWDBooSTIn90 · 12-22-2017, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cyman83

which cable are you guys using to update cic firmware?

ICOM cable only or can a K-D Can USB cable be used if the time is taken and done properly?

Aus335iguy · 12-22-2017, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AWDBooSTIn90

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Originally Posted by cyman83

which cable are you guys using to update cic firmware?

ICOM cable only or can a K-D Can USB cable be used if the time is taken and done properly?

The other way is Ethernet to OBD

Aus335iguy · 12-22-2017, 05:13 AM

How to update CIC without ICOM http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401983

The-Traveler · 03-23-2018, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe@TopGearSolutions

Easiest way is to read your CIC with NCS, and it will show you. CIC.C1A is the latest, as of DATEN v60 (and has been for a while).

I have C1A but my firmware is 2011.
I know there is a 2012 firmware, but I'm not sure if it's only for F series vehicles.

Any way to get 2012 firmware onto my M3? I have the pro cable capable of flashing it, just no firmware. WinKFP shows no update available.

The 2011 firmware has invalid SSL Certificate Authority certificates, making the Internet Browser useless for anything with HTTPS. Also, I want to make sure I'm on the latest, to attempt RTTI activation.

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05-14-2017, 05:27 AM	#24
Pierre26 Private First Class 20 Rep 105 Posts Drives: 2009-335D Pack M Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: France iTrader: (0)	@Aus335iguy You have the answer: upgrade to V41 then scripting to create on start the 9C in /mnt/HBpersistence/009C0001.swt or to Patch (how is in the FA) According what you say it seems that this is the Combox version which allows the rights. Factory fitted Mulf2 but I 'm just waiting for a Combox to do that and as you my CiC is C08, so thanks, will try next week with some spare time and report.
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05-18-2017, 01:53 AM	#28
Pierre26 Private First Class 20 Rep 105 Posts Drives: 2009-335D Pack M Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: France iTrader: (0)	Exactly, I don't have but must say some time it is mandatory, so asked in a forum where I live, still waiting for the answer even with some $ ...
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07-22-2017, 02:54 AM	#31
Scrippy Lord Scrip 1892 Rep 3,075 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Coupe Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: LA,Ca iTrader: (0) Garage List [10.00] 2007 BMW 335i [10.00]	There isn't that much messed up info out there. People are just crossing chassis and things vary there. I found some pdf's online with pinouts and they worked for me. Only thing I needed help with was apps. One thing in this thread that was wrong.....blue and black USB ports are the same excluding apps, 6nr doesn't care which you use. The snap in adapter is pretty much nothing more than the iPhone composite cable. I utilize apps 100% but I do not have the snap in adapter. I wired in the iPhone composite cable which had RCA's. Plug audios into 1/8" aux for sound and make up an rca video to feed FBas on CIC. BPM had to get my apps running though. Never figured that one out. __________________
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Maniac0908 Major 168 Rep 1,415 Posts Drives: Alpine White 07 335xi Sedan Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Towson, MD iTrader: (2)	Any updates? Im waiting for my stuff to come in the mail. Diy would be nice!
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09-19-2017, 06:50 PM	#36
Maniac0908 Major 168 Rep 1,415 Posts Drives: Alpine White 07 335xi Sedan Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Towson, MD iTrader: (2)	So how do i see cic firmware version?
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10-18-2017, 01:39 PM	#39
Joe@TopGearSolutions Major 267 Rep 1,173 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: USA iTrader: (3)	You're on CIC.C10, which is pretty old. I'm not quite sure which DATEN that was released in though.
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11-08-2017, 05:28 PM	#40
cyman83 Lieutenant 24 Rep 416 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (6)	which cable are you guys using to update cic firmware?
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12-22-2017, 05:13 AM	#43
Aus335iguy Colonel 660 Rep 2,139 Posts Drives: 2009 e92 335i MSport DCT Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Sydney Aus iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 335i [10.00]	How to update CIC without ICOM http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401983 __________________ When you doppelkaplung you doppel your fun.
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