[pettman]

Originally Posted by BIMMER_Tech 631

Well yea except emulator is best bet of your looking for sat radio and easier map updates, you can do script coding for map activation but it's a little more complicated to update maps and also you can not activate Sirius with script Fsc coding

Ideal, so the emulator means you dont need the FSC code for activating the maps etc?

And is the combo box purely for voice activation, video in motion etc?

[BIMMER_Tech 631]

Originally Posted by pettman

Ideal, so the emulator means you dont need the FSC code for activating the maps etc?

And is the combo box purely for voice activation, video in motion etc?

No emulator activates Navigation, video in motion and voice activation, Combox is for Bluetooth audio, album art, and some other features

[pettman]

Originally Posted by BIMMER_Tech 631

No emulator activates Navigation, video in motion and voice activation, Combox is for Bluetooth audio, album art, and some other features

I get it, so that can be added at a later date?

[BIMMER_Tech 631]

Originally Posted by pettman

I get it, so that can be added at a later date?

Yea

[pettman]

Originally Posted by BIMMER_Tech 631

Yea

Do you know where you can get the emulators?

[BIMMER_Tech 631]

Originally Posted by pettman

Do you know where you can get the emulators?

This one PNP and easiest in my opinion

https://www.ebay.com/itm/271677886583


Or if you want to do the wiring yourself

https://www.ebay.com/itm/271285927884

[pettman]

Originally Posted by BIMMER_Tech 631

This one PNP and easiest in my opinion

https://www.ebay.com/itm/271677886583


Or if you want to do the wiring yourself

https://www.ebay.com/itm/271285927884

Cool, so get one of those, the head unit and screen and plug it all in and it will work? Or do I still need to re pin a plug? And is any coding needed?

[BIMMER_Tech 631]

Originally Posted by pettman

Cool, so get one of those, the head unit and screen and plug it all in and it will work? Or do I still need to re pin a plug? And is any coding needed?

Yea, Connector 61136954526, make sure battery is unplugged when you do the pinout switch, then you need to code the car,

You need to change the VO (vehicle order) in order for NCS to see the retrofit CIC module. To do this you need to change the production date of the car..


-Mine was #0307 changed to #0909
-Add $6VA also to VO
-Then you Fa-write the VO to CAS and FRM module...
-Default code the CIC module which should show up in NCS after changing the production date.

THen everything should be up and running with the new CIC.

I then used NCSexpert to code in:

-DVD in motion
-Legal disclaimer disabled on startup
-Fuel stop stations

[l2iceman]

Originally Posted by BIMMER_Tech 631

Well yea except emulator is best bet of your looking for sat radio and easier map updates, you can do script coding for map activation but it's a little more complicated to update maps and also you can not activate Sirius with script Fsc coding

Bumping this thread.

I'm going to be doing the CCC -> CIC upgrade, from a 2009 model. I will be getting the CIC screen, CIC unit, cable from screen to unit, CIC plug to use/repin the CCC connector, CIC glovebox USB, and Satellite module in the trunk (2009 CIC did not have built in Sat radio from what I read, and this vehicle came equipped with sat nav. My 2008 has the provisions/prep for sat nav, so should be plug/play).

I believe I have everything I need above.

After all these years, is the emulator still the better option over FSC or script activation? I just want navi, sat nav (if possible), back up camera. I may want a combox in the future.

I found this on ebay, which emulates backup camera and CIC (I plan to buy a trunk handle camera w/ dynamic lines). Here is the link to the emulator, from Autofocustech:
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/CIC-Retrofit...53.m1438.l2649

Thanks in advance.

[schriss]

I might be doing this too. I thought plug re-pin is not needed when using such emulator, I thought the purpose of that harness is to plug between CCC plug and CIC unit with no extra wiring, plug and play?
Actually it's probably the power cable for screen, so that would make sense.

Also I'm so undecided between upgrading from CCC to CIC or getting Android screen and keeping main CCC unit. Cost seems similar.

[l2iceman]

Bump - anybody able to chime in? Here's the emulator I found:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/CIC-Retrofit...-/282645470493

Would i just plug this in and he good to go? Or would I still need to do coding for cic? I know I need to code for the back up camera, but is coding required for cic with an emulator?

[btslo]

Yes you need to code in the CIC, you also need to "clean" flash the CIC so it knows what options you have in your car. But it's not that hard, 10min work with kdcan cable.

You can get the same emulator on aliexpress for around $50.

Do you have PDC? I've read the camera emulator could be a bit finnicky at times.

[l2iceman]

Originally Posted by btslo

Yes you need to code in the CIC, you also need to "clean" flash the CIC so it knows what options you have in your car. But it's not that hard, 10min work with kdcan cable.

You can get the same emulator on aliexpress for around $50.

Do you have PDC? I've read the camera emulator could be a bit finnicky at times.

Yepp, I can code and have found what specifics to do in ncs expert.

So just to clarify:
Once installed with emulator, I just code the vehicle to recognize the cic.

As for map updates, this is something I can do as well with an emulator installed? I read about generating fsc, etc. So my question is whether or not having an emulator limits me from doing updates in the future.

Ans I do have pdc, the emulator link I posted above does back up camera along with navi, etc, so I believe I just need to code and should be good to go.

[l2iceman]

I ended up script activating. I used fs tool to put the unit in check fsc mode, allowing me to update maps to 2020 with a generated fsc code.

Next step is to connect the sat radio module in the trunk and hope it works (i have sat prep, already coded vo/cic to show sat radio menu option, and coded exbox for SDARS).

I also ordered a reverse camera emulator off Ali Express, and a camera off ebay, so tthat'll be a month away. But since I'm pretty much home 24/7 with the pandemic going on, I'll have time here and there to work on the car.

[l2iceman]

Originally Posted by schriss

I might be doing this too. I thought plug re-pin is not needed when using such emulator, I thought the purpose of that harness is to plug between CCC plug and CIC unit with no extra wiring, plug and play?
Actually it's probably the power cable for screen, so that would make sense.

Also I'm so undecided between upgrading from CCC to CIC or getting Android screen and keeping main CCC unit. Cost seems similar.

The re pin is necessary, it's for the screen plug you re use from the ccc screen.
Look up the DIY install video on YouTube by BMW Fanatic. I followed this and he clearly shows the re pin steps. Once you watch, you'll understand.

[rbryantaz]

Very cool that this can be made to work but...

Why bother when you can just get an android head unit?

Then you have full google maps, spotify, pandora, etc.

it is a couple hundred bucks more but i have had good luck with both my e90 non idrive and my e70 CCC.

I bet by the time you buy a CIC screen and the extra parts and spend the time it isn't any cheaper than full android.

-Rich

[btslo]

The CCC is prone to dying, android still need the CCC unit to function so if that packs up you're screwed. And OEM feel.

It's worth it on non-idrive I guess.

[btslo]

Originally Posted by l2iceman

I ended up script activating. I used fs tool to put the unit in check fsc mode, allowing me to update maps to 2020 with a generated fsc code.

Next step is to connect the sat radio module in the trunk and hope it works (i have sat prep, already coded vo/cic to show sat radio menu option, and coded exbox for SDARS).

I also ordered a reverse camera emulator off Ali Express, and a camera off ebay, so tthat'll be a month away. But since I'm pretty much home 24/7 with the pandemic going on, I'll have time here and there to work on the car.

How did you script activate? FTP/SSH to the CIC and replace some files?

I'm replacing my C16 with C1A anyways since I got another one cheap haha.

[l2iceman]

Originally Posted by btslo

How did you script activate? FTP/SSH to the CIC and replace some files?

I'm replacing my C16 with C1A anyways since I got another one cheap haha.

I have individual audio on my m3, and didn't want thr android unit as its audio goes through aux and would sound terrible.

Otherwise I completely agree, the Android unit is a better option.

As for script activate, I didn't do it, I had a local coder do it. I learned about fs tool after the fact as I was trying to update maps.

[rbryantaz]

Originally Posted by l2iceman

I have individual audio on my m3, and didn't want thr android unit as its audio goes through aux and would sound terrible.

Otherwise I completely agree, the Android unit is a better option.

As for script activate, I didn't do it, I had a local coder do it. I learned about fs tool after the fact as I was trying to update maps.

I just spliced into the aux inside the armreset on my 335i with logic7.

Aux quality usually depends on the source device and its connection. AUX is usually much better than bluetooth with good connections...

Most high end home audio gear still doesn't use true balanced connections. RCA cables for amplifiers are essentially the same as AUX and they don't have audio quality issues as long as they are decent cables and not 30ft runs.

-Rich