[Got-Torque]

Fantastic results!

[335dsleeper]

I hope this file becomes available for purchase.

Originally Posted by TDIwyse

It's a DWR "special" :-)

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2155

It works great for regular daily driving. Less "harsh" shifting than the stage 3 xHP tune, which I was a little concerned about how fast and hard it shifted with the stage 3 and the amount of torque going through the transmission...

[WreckerX5d]

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

I hope this file becomes available for purchase.

I concur. I'd be happy to provide money towards a flash that DWR and TDIWyse have created. Mainly for the increased RPM and autoshift with 2nd gear stays.

[tryingtobebest]

Originally Posted by TDIwyse

It's a DWR "special" :-)

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2155

It works great for regular daily driving. Less "harsh" shifting than the stage 3 xHP tune, which I was a little concerned about how fast and hard it shifted with the stage 3 and the amount of torque going through the transmission...

Thanks for that, many years ago i drove around with buddy in his e46 SMG M3 and he always chose "sporties" trans shifting setting, i still remember the shock car had after every gearchange.... (Geese bumps)... Hence my question!) I think that stage 3 is going to be just too hard on everything!
So where this "custom" tune fits in? Between 2 and 3? Or more like 1&2 with rpm raise?

I think ill contact DWR with request of that tune once ill be ready to install it! He should at least NickName it - "TDI" Custom or something

Also, i was trying to catch up on that trans thread some time ago but it 100+ pages,
Im not sure where it was discussed and explained but WHY does everyone launches in 2ng gear???

[TDIwyse]

Originally Posted by tryingtobebest

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Im not sure where it was discussed and explained but WHY does everyone launches in 2ng gear???

For myself, I measured better acceleration when doing 2nd gear starts, and it's easier to control wheel spin. 1st gear is basically useless ... unless I want to pivot the car in a very tight circle.

[TDIwyse]

Got around to uploading the faster 125.71 mph pull video. It's not "visually" as good as the 125.49 mph pull, as this side of the track seemed to have better traction and I didn't squirm as much, and I had the smartphone strapped in so the rear view mirror is blocking part of the display...

This pass I had the EWG set to allow a little more boost than the 2nd pass (previous testing was showing around these two settings to be about the sweet spot) which touches ~45 psig (3100 mbar above ambient) in 5th gear as the CACT's are warming up (matchbot shows even with the higher boost in 5th, the corresponding higher CACT's do not predict higher total airflow than the lower gears where CACT's are lower and boost is a little lower).

[tryingtobebest]

Originally Posted by TDIwyse

For myself, I measured better acceleration when doing 2nd gear starts, and it's easier to control wheel spin. 1st gear is basically useless ... unless I want to pivot the car in a very tight circle.

Ok, this not clear to me so you had Stage 3 prior to this custom tune? And you didn't answer one more question from prev post:

Where this "custom" tune fits in? Between 2 and 3? Or more like 1&2 with rpm raise?

EDIT: posted at the same time with you, lol, sick video, great results, congrats on new benchmark man!)))

[TDIwyse]

Originally Posted by tryingtobebest

Ok, this not clear to me so you had Stage 3 prior to this custom tune? And you didn't answer one more question from prev post:

Where this "custom" tune fits in? Between 2 and 3? Or more like 1&2 with rpm raise?...

Yes, I had a stage 3 xHP tune I purchased when getting their app. I specifically wanted that so I could measure whp up to the ~5000 rpm point to see if my power output was still increasing, or rolling over and decreasing. I was not thrilled with the more aggressive shifting (for short term, absolute fastest acceleration, the stage 3 would be "better", but I'm not comfortable with the longer term reliability with that tune and the amount of torque my car can put out), or the lack of ability to force manual mode shifting into 2nd gear for launching (I think they've adjusted that on later tunes, but I don't know for certain), or the loss of "auto shifting" at peak rpm's.

As far as where DWR's tune fits, you would need to consult with him. He has vastly more understanding into the details of the TCU and the coding than do I. And all I have to compare it to is the early stage 3 xHP tune.

[335inDe]

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

You need to go have fun with some of the domestic guys around your parts. I'm sure you'd hurt some feelings. Ha

Anyone know how many E90 M3's or 335's are running this fast?

Great job once again!

I have had 2 335i's and currently have a 335is and a 335d. Can't really compare the two as they are two totally different animals. I always say I'll race anyone 0-60 with my diesel 360hp 580tq but with hybrid turbos, upgraded lpfp and the other basic bolt ons (no meth or added fueling) the 335is will destroy the D.

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by 335inDe

I have had 2 335i's and currently have a 335is and a 335d. Can't really compare the two as they are two totally different animals. I always say I'll race anyone 0-60 with my diesel 360hp 580tq but with hybrid turbos, upgraded lpfp and the other basic bolt ons (no meth or added fueling) the 335is will destroy the D.

Interesting- I've run a FBO E85 335 with JB4 and MHD backend flash, and pulled it without much issue.

[DWR]

Originally Posted by TDIwyse

As far as where DWR's tune fits, you would need to consult with him. He has vastly more understanding into the details of the TCU and the coding than do I. And all I have to compare it to is the early stage 3 xHP tune.

I made that tune especially for TDYwyse. The xHP tunes are excellent and there is not a better commercially available method for safely flashing TCU tunes. However, xHP is working diligently to broaden access to TCU tuning and not necessarily in the business of custom tunes.

Been thinking about customizing the TCU tunes to maximize performance based on engine performance for quite some time. For example, best acceleration may not be with the same rpm limit in each gear (I can model that with software). Believe it or not, a stock 335d will actually accelerate faster if the shift rpm is brought down a little.

Anyway, I'm not in the business of providing custom TCU tunes, yet. Hit the appreciation button and I will look to see how many are interested and go from there. Thanks.

[Yozh]

Originally Posted by DWR

Anyway, I'm not in the business of providing custom TCU tunes, yet. Hit the appreciation button and I will look to see how many are interested and go from there. Thanks.

I love my hybrid stage 3 tune. And by hybrid I mean v1.2 However, in day to day driving I find that in D (which is basically a stage 1 tune) it shifts way too early when you are stepping on it. I wish it would hold a gear a bit based on the throttle input. S/M is great but could be a bit crazy at higher throttle inputs.

So, yes, DWR, appreciation sent and please offer one of your magic tunes.

[335dsleeper]

While I appreciate your opinion, we're not talking about a 335d that is making a mere 360hp 580tq.. most of us make far more than that to the tire.

The OP made two 125 mph passes, there aren't too many daily driven 335i's trapping that fast. If you look at drag times, the OP is about the 27th on the 335i list regarding trap speed. Pretty incredible feat considering there's not much aftermarket for the 335d.

Out of curiosity, what does your 335i trap?

Originally Posted by 335inDe

I have had 2 335i's and currently have a 335is and a 335d. Can't really compare the two as they are two totally different animals. I always say I'll race anyone 0-60 with my diesel 360hp 580tq but with hybrid turbos, upgraded lpfp and the other basic bolt ons (no meth or added fueling) the 335is will destroy the D.

[335inDe]

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

While I appreciate your opinion, we're not talking about a 335d that is making a mere 360hp 580tq.. most of us make far more than that to the tire.

The OP made two 125 mph passes, there aren't too many daily driven 335i's trapping that fast. If you look at drag times, the OP is about the 27th on the 335i list regarding trap speed. Pretty incredible feat considering there's not much aftermarket for the 335d.

Out of curiosity, what does your 335i trap?

You guys just need to follow the threads on N54 tech or the N54 forum on here. I can't talk down on either platform as I love them both and am in no way bashing the D's. Just my opinion upgrade for upgrade the N54 is faster. N54 with hybrids, on e30 with bolt ons and a lpfp is mid 10's to low 11's depending on launch of course. You have to figure these guys are running 600-750hp and nearly same torque on stock internals.

[335inDe]

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

While I appreciate your opinion, we're not talking about a 335d that is making a mere 360hp 580tq.. most of us make far more than that to the tire.

The OP made two 125 mph passes, there aren't too many daily driven 335i's trapping that fast. If you look at drag times, the OP is about the 27th on the 335i list regarding trap speed. Pretty incredible feat considering there's not much aftermarket for the 335d.

Out of curiosity, what does your 335i trap?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1302447&page=2

This guy recently ran 11.1 with over 130mph trap on e85 and still learning how to launch. That's pretty incredible in my opinion with his setup. I think what needs to be figured out is, does the twin turbo by default create more power than the D's Bi-turbo and is it even possible with this setup to match the twin turbo setup. All this is way above my pay grade but that would be interesting to figure out.

[335dsleeper]

The 335i has a lower rear gear ratio and much lower low rpm torque which makes it better suited for a good 60ft and lower resulting e.t. That said, you're missing the point, trap speed for trap speed... show me all these examples of daily driven 335i's running 120+ trap speeds. Remove e.t. from the equation. Trap speed is the indication of hp. Generally, a higher trapping mph equals a faster car in roll racing. The Op's 125mph trapping 335d is a lot faster than the majority of 335i's out there, hence my original comment. Not saying it's faster than all, but it's faster than a lot.

Go ahead and check out the 335i forums. Find the cars trapping over 125, remember trap equals HP and e.t. equals traction.

Of course there are faster 335i's, BMW made a hell of a lot more of them and the aftermarket is huge.

Upgrade for upgrade?

335d
Hybrids & tune
Intercooler
ABC delete
Water injection
Stock fuel system (lpfp, hpfp & injectors)

What 335i with only the mods listed above are hitting 123-125 in the 1/4? Not any crazy ethanol fuel you can't buy at a standard pump either.

Originally Posted by 335inDe

You guys just need to follow the threads on N54 tech or the N54 forum on here. I can't talk down on either platform as I love them both and am in no way bashing the D's. Just my opinion upgrade for upgrade the N54 is faster. N54 with hybrids, on e30 with bolt ons and a lpfp is mid 10's to low 11's depending on launch of course. You have to figure these guys are running 600-750hp and nearly same torque on stock internals.

[335dsleeper]

On pump gas (93) he's in the 123-126 range. So there's one example... any others? The majority of FBO 335i's are trapping in the teens.

A ton of 335i track data in the link below. Like I said, op is in the 27th-28th fastest trapping e9x listed here. The faster cars seems to have more mods, running E85, upgraded fuel systems or single turbos etc. Again, considering the mods done, cost associated, the OP's daily driven 335d is very, very impressive.

http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW--335i-D...ml?sort=mph-up

Originally Posted by 335inDe

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1302447&page=2

This guy recently ran 11.1 with over 130mph trap on e85 and still learning how to launch. That's pretty incredible in my opinion with his setup. I think what needs to be figured out is, does the twin turbo by default create more power than the D's Bi-turbo and is it even possible with this setup to match the twin turbo setup. All this is way above my pay grade but that would be interesting to figure out.

[335inDe]

I'm not taking anything away from the OP. That's impressive for a diesel and I hope the platform keeps developing and catches the N54. The problem is that I don't think I have seen anyone post to dragtimes since FFTEC days like 08? Also yes the N54 has a $400 upgraded fuel pump but no Meth kit. OP is running a meth kit so that's a wash. So in all reality they have the same mods and it's cheaper to mod the n54. $300 downpipes, and $400 for a custom tune via MHD from your pick of pro tuners without mailing the DME or going to BPC like I did which cost 4 times more with travel etc. Now you can't even compare the mpg savings the D has over the N54 which I love. It all boils down to what you like I love both cars and own both but facts are facts the N54 dollar for dollar in mods will be a faster and cheaper car for now. This isn't even taking into consideration the DCT in my 335is if you haven't read up on the DCT yet I would because it's a game changer.

[TDIwyse]

Just to clarify ... I'm not trying to compete against 335i's, or any other platform, or any other person on a given platform ... I just started enjoying modifying my 335d as a hobby and a way to take my mind off work, and I found the process to be a great learning experience, and have developed a lot of personal relationships with folks on this forum whom I wanted to share the journey, and wanted to share some results.

The track is just one way to measure/validate the modifications that gives quantifiable measurable data. I really, really like data.

[AWSAWS]

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

The 335i has a lower rear gear ratio and much lower low rpm torque which makes it better suited for a good 60ft and lower resulting e.t. That said, you're missing the point, trap speed for trap speed... show me all these examples of daily driven 335i's running 120+ trap speeds. Remove e.t. from the equation. Trap speed is the indication of hp. Generally, a higher trapping mph equals a faster car in roll racing. The Op's 125mph trapping 335d is a lot faster than the majority of 335i's out there, hence my original comment. Not saying it's faster than all, but it's faster than a lot.

Go ahead and check out the 335i forums. Find the cars trapping over 125, remember trap equals HP and e.t. equals traction.

Of course there are faster 335i's, BMW made a hell of a lot more of them and the aftermarket is huge.

Upgrade for upgrade?

335d
Hybrids & tune
Intercooler
ABC delete
Water injection
Stock fuel system (lpfp, hpfp & injectors)

What 335i with only the mods listed above are hitting 123-125 in the 1/4? Not any crazy ethanol fuel you can't buy at a standard pump either.

With turbos upgraded the vast majority should be.

Congrats to the OP. Not many people take a diesel to this level. (It's much easier for the i's as they are more popular, so they have parts, logging and tuning more readily available to them)

The torque on tuned 335i's is actually pretty high but the higher rpms gives them a great HP advantage. The D could probably do with 10 gears to get the best acceleration and top speed from that indestructible block.

[335inDe]

Originally Posted by TDIwyse

Just to clarify ... I'm not trying to compete against 335i's, or any other platform, or any other person on a given platform ... I just started enjoying modifying my 335d as a hobby and a way to take my mind off work, and I found the process to be a great learning experience, and have developed a lot of personal relationships with folks on this forum whom I wanted to share the journey, and wanted to share some results.

The track is just one way to measure/validate the modifications that gives quantifiable measurable data. I really, really like data.

I definitely don't think you are trying to compete by any means. I love what you have done with your car. I hope the development keeps going for this platform. Having both platforms I can give a non fanboy opinion that's all I was stating. Facts are facts dragtimes is old as you can see. The N54 guys post dynos, 1/2 mile slips and kill videos. I haven't seen many 1/4 mile slips lately a lot of them have a VBOX. With your mods they are 600-750hp and close to same torque. That's not a knock you or your car by any means. Given the same mods on a GTR or some other crazy car I'm sure they can push 1000hp easy. Guess all I was trying to say is that if you like your Diesel 335 and are in the market for a new car look at the N54 without blinders it's mind blowing what the geniuses tuning these cars can do.

[TDIwyse]

Originally Posted by 335inDe

...Guess all I was trying to say is that if you like your Diesel 335 and are in the market for a new car look at the N54 without blinders it's mind blowing what the geniuses tuning these cars can do.

Thanks, but if I was in the market for a really high hp vehicle, and was willing to suffer through living with a daily driving vehicle that got that crappy of fuel mileage, I'd just update/upgrade my old diesel truck... these big ass domestic diesels have upgrades that make them capable of doing 9 sec 1/4 miles, and will get about the same mpg's as the N54/N55/GTR, and don't need the special alcohol(ethanol)/race fuel to allow them to run high boost/high hp/high trap speeds. And they can go off road. And tow. And haul a bunch of crap... But they don't take high speed corners very well :-)