[Calgary Agent]

Originally Posted by pikkashoe

So am I to be concerned with this?? Or should i reduce torque settings to ensure the boost never gets this high.

If it were my car, I'd lower the torque setting to 87 or 88% then add 1% at a time. There's no way I'd let the boost exceed 15psi.

Sure you're going to lose some power, but consider the cost of a couple of new turbos (and associated hardware).

[pikkashoe]

Holy crap 25???????? I take it Down4it your no longer Procede.

Rix, yep your gauge is really coming in handy. I love it. Im throwing up a couple more videos in the other thread without music as requested by Nyulak.

Hey is that my car in the new banner , cool!!

[pikkashoe]

Calgary, so what I am experiencing is a problem, and just not the way the gauge reads boost?
So for it to be ideal, I should never see any reading over 15 psi, unless when in between shifts?

Your right, id rather give up some hp than to deal with a blown engine or turbos.

[pikkashoe]

Ok here is the video

Ok disregard the first time I downshift. The second time I gun it in 3rd, and keep it in 3rd, and it goes up to 16 something psi. As you can see i go all the way up to 16 each time, then back down to 13/14 psi.

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[pikkashoe]

Ok I just lowered my torque settings to 88.2.

Ill start testing tomorrow.

I dont remember, but its ok to update torque settings with the car running right? They will take to the procede if the engine is running?

[D0WN4IT]

Originally Posted by pikkashoe

Holy crap 25???????? I take it Down4it your no longer Procede.

Rix, yep your gauge is really coming in handy. I love it. Im throwing up a couple more videos in the other thread without music as requested by Nyulak.

Hey is that my car in the new banner , cool!!

Not for a while now...

[pikkashoe]

Ok i set the torque settings to 88 last night. Im not really sure if the settings took effect, because i had the car on when i did it, and I didnt reset the procede.

I still got spikes today up to 16. Primarily in second gear, just giving it gas going up past 5000 rpms. This is starting to get annoying.

Anyone else dealing with this? This is so frustrating, paying all this money and being told it will work as advertised, and now finding out after the fact, that its not working correctly. Im going to redo the torque settings tonight.

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by pikkashoe

Ok i set the torque settings to 88 last night. Im not really sure if the settings took effect, because i had the car on when i did it, and I didnt reset the procede.

Keep in mind, the 0 - 100% settings are from stock to full boost. Assume 100% is about 16 PSI and stock is 8 PSI, a 1% change is 0.08 PSI or not even a tenth of a PSI. A 10% change in UT values is just shy of 1 PSI.

Drop it to 80% if you really want to dscern a change.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by scalbert

Keep in mind, the 0 - 100% settings are from stock to full boost. Assume 100% is about 16 PSI and stock is 8 PSI, a 1% change is 0.08 PSI or not even a tenth of a PSI. A 10% change in UT values is just shy of 1 PSI.

Drop it to 80% if you really want to dscern a change.

+1

I still don't know why digital boost gauges are used for realtime boost monitoring. They are so hard to read when things start to move fast.

pikkashoe-- You're car is working fine. It's normal to see a 1psi spike between gears. Maybe more if temps are warm and the conditions are right. What you don't want to see is sustained boost above 15psi. If you do, all you need to do is drop User Torque. No need to reset the PROcede when doing this. Just drop the numbers and hit okay.

It's going to be very hard to get any stable boost reading in 1st gear due to the rate at which your engine is rise. Not to mention the short duration of the on-boost run (less than 1.5 seconds I'm guessing).

Shiv

[pikkashoe]

I do recall speaking to shiv one time while i was at the track, and he said putting settings up to 100% would get me to 18 lbs of boost. This was a while ago, so I might be wrong. I will dial it down even more tonight. I dont need to have a blown engine right now.

[pikkashoe]

Hey Shiv.

Im not seeing the spikes between shifts. In second gear, i go all the way up to 16.5, then it drops down after about a quarter second, this is accelerating all the way up to redline. Also when down shifting from 4th to 3rd, it will do it every single time, go up to 16.5, for about a quarter of a second, then drop down. Is this normal? I do understand in between shifts its ok, but I am not experiencing this. Im not getting sustained boost readings of 16, but it definately is hitting 16 everytime, then dropping down.

And the digital guage records peak boost, im using the peak recall to see how high it gets every time. Currently im at 88.2 on the torque settings.

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by pikkashoe

Im not seeing the spikes between shifts. In second gear, i go all the way up to 16.5, then it drops down after about a quarter second, this is accelerating all the way up to redline. Also when down shifting from 4th to 3rd, it will do it every single time, go up to 16.5, for about a quarter of a second, then drop down. Is this normal?

A momentary spike, and 1/4 second is momentary, is fine and nothing to worry about. If it holds there for seconds, that is when you get off the throttle and adjust UT values.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by pikkashoe

Hey Shiv.

Im not seeing the spikes between shifts. In second gear, i go all the way up to 16.5, then it drops down after about a quarter second, this is accelerating all the way up to redline. Also when down shifting from 4th to 3rd, it will do it every single time, go up to 16.5, for about a quarter of a second, then drop down. Is this normal? I do understand in between shifts its ok, but I am not experiencing this.

And the digital guage records peak boost, im using the peak recall to see how high it gets every time. Currently im at 88.2 on the torque settings.

88%, as scalbert explained above, is barely any difference than the default 90%. If you want to drop boost by 1psi, drop it to 80%. Boost pressures are higher now that it's warmer (compared to what they were in the winter) due to air density reduction. So dropping UT is perfectly normal. Especially if you have intake and/or exhaust mods. Down4it, despite what he may claim, is seeing a lot bigger spikes than you

And yes, seeing more boost for the first .25 seconds is normal and to be expected. And relying on digital peak-hold readings is going to drive you nuts when quantifying the amplitude and duration of a spike. My suggestion is to run an analog boost gauge if you want to put your mind at ease. Even if it's just temporary.

shiv

[pikkashoe]

Ok if the quarter second spike is ok, then i can live with that. I just needed clarification, because everyone else on here said its not.

I kind of figured with the temps in miami reaching 95 degrees, that would cause a change, since i set up the datalogs and torque settings back in winter when first got v2. Also since then i have added the BMS filter system.

Since im not seeing sustained boost pressures over 15, i think i will crank it back up to 90.1. I only see a fraction of a second spike to 16, then it drops down.

Thanks for the peace of mind shiv and scalbert.

[tek818]

Originally Posted by pikkashoe

tek818, i noticed you said "you where running 88", do you no longer have a procede?

I still have the PROcede, but it is not currently installed because I recently had 29.2 loaded on my car Waiting for the new map and firmware. Terry GAVE me a JB1 to run in the mean time

[pikkashoe]

That stinks. Oh well hopefully you get that resolved. how's the JB1?.

[tek818]

Car feels pretty strong and smooth; reminds me of the turbo tuner that I had for 3 weeks while I was waiting for my PROcede to arrive. I'm very anxious to see what Shiv is able to do with 29.2!!

[FunRevn]

+1

[scottp999]

Pikkshoe- You are not the only one. I did no datalogs, no boost gauge and ran 94% tq values on 93 octane, with procede v2.0.2. Installed the boost gauge today. Got on the highway at WOT 3 times. twice saw 18-18.5 PSI and once saw 23PSI (not while shifting, while accelerating in 2nd gear). Then just geting on it while crusing around I would see 16 and 16.5.

I'm going to drop my TQ settings from 94% to 90% and try again tomorrow.

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by scottp999

Pikkshoe- You are not the only one. I did no datalogs, no boost gauge and ran 94% tq values on 93 octane, with procede v2.0.2. Installed the boost gauge today. Got on the highway at WOT 3 times. twice saw 18-18.5 PSI and once saw 23PSI (not while shifting, while accelerating in 2nd gear). Then just geting on it while crusing around I would see 16 and 16.5.

I'm going to drop my TQ settings from 94% to 90% and try again tomorrow.

I know this since autumn 2007 ... touché. I did datalogs and I had / have a boost gauge. Tell me the turbos did not overspin .

[pikkashoe]

EN335 your right, the snails have definately been over spinning. I set my settings to 90 for now. STill seeing temporary spikes to 17, but according to Shiv, as long as its only a fraction of a second and not holding there its fine. I hope he's right. Anxiously waiting 3.0 for now.

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by pikkashoe

EN335 your right, the snails have definately been over spinning. I set my settings to 90 for now. STill seeing temporary spikes to 17, but according to Shiv, as long as its only a fraction of a second and not holding there its fine. I hope he's right. Anxiously waiting 3.0 for now.

It has been the time where the PROcede changed to direct boost solenoid control. A time, where Shiv learned to deal with it. IMO now, in V3, it's fully implemented according to the datalogs I can see on the forum.