[Sgop335]

Yep mhd all the way...just throwing it out there looks like dinan stg1 for the n54 is $400, some folks may like that

[dleccord]

Originally Posted by Thewind727

I changed from alpina and would do it again for twice the cost if needed

what was the difference or you impression going to XHP? did you go stage 2 for daily?

[Cloud9blue]

Originally Posted by dleccord

what was the difference or you impression going to XHP? did you go stage 2 for daily?

I honestly don't find it to be that big of a difference when it comes to upshift speed. downshift does seems to be quicker and firmer.

honestly, I think the whole thing (flash license + ots map) is a bit overpriced, especially considering the whole app was based on the open sourced work done by the guys in the diesel section...

[Thewind727]

Originally Posted by dleccord

what was the difference or you impression going to XHP? did you go stage 2 for daily?

id say that xhp just seems to handle everything a bit better and us burdened with the auto trans need all the help we can get, im running stage 3 for daily driving regular d/mode until she warms up then off to manual mode, the revmatching down shifts is what i like the most and im under the impression that it will help prolong the life of the trans that alog with the higher line pressure should help this girl get some extra life now that im at well over 450whp.

Xhp definatly shifts faster all around up and down "on my car" milage may vary but for me the difference between the 2 was way different in every way in every mode drive mode feels more like it should from the factory shifts are very smooth and in sport mode and m/mode it just feels better than alpina not sure how to really explain it other than better

[Rival]

Since i just got new i fone, which tablet would work with the MHD..??

[Brandon818]

Originally Posted by Rival

Since i just got new i fone, which tablet would work with the MHD..??

Any ANDROID tablet (no kindles or amzn tablets) with otg support will work. I personally picked up a samsung s5 and mounted it on the left side of my dash to use as a gauge and it fits prefectly.

[Rival]

Originally Posted by Brandon818

Any ANDROID tablet (no kindles or amzn tablets) with otg support will work. I personally picked up a samsung s5 and mounted it on the left side of my dash to use as a gauge and it fits prefectly.

can you send me a pic..?? I may do exactly that.

[Maniac0908]

Trebila 10000000000,%

[Rival]

Originally Posted by Maniac0908

Trebila 10000000000,%

wouldnt use a jb4 if you paid me.

[Maniac0908]

Originally Posted by Rival

wouldnt use a jb4 if you paid me.

You don't have to use jb4 with him. I don't think. The only thing my jb4 does is control my meth. But ok.

[MIL.SPEC]

I HATE interceptor systems. Had an XEDE on my Evo tuned by Shiv himself (that's a whole other discussion...he tunes like the Frankenturbo guy). Never again. You'll read about plenty of problems with the JB4/5 too.

MHD is a reflash.

I went with a custom tune because I have inlets, a cat back exhaust and the ECS DCI carbon airbox.

Besides, it's not much more than OTS MHD maps. I went with Twisted Tuning, but there are others.

[Chris@VargasTurboTech]

MHD wise I'd look at BQ, Wedge, V8Bait, etc.
Cobb I'd look at Brentuning
JB4 I'd look at trebila

Just tell them what you want and make sure they listen to you. I've personally worked with Bren and BQ, they both listened to what I asked for (for example, when I wanted a safe DD tune on ACN91, which is very low quality fuel, I wasn't looking for big power, I wanted something I could run in AZ temps with crap fuel and not blow things up). Through VTT we've worked with all of them at one time or another (or still).

I always recommend you learn to log and do some simple diagnosis yourself. When I worked for the Navy we had a saying that captures it well; "trust but verify". Logs normally tell the truth.

Chris

[bradsm87]

TwistedTuning

[Ballistic]

I did some research about the performance gains, the cost and the way it's done. Sofar only contacted BQ.

For 350 bucks you get a custom tune but i get the very strong feeling that it's mostly done by raising to boost to 21psi or higher and deafning the antiknock sensors. I also had to buy another M Boost MHD option for 50euros and a new TMAP sensor.

Yes this gives more power but as i also seek some reliability from my car, i feel that these tunes will definitely hurt longlivety of the parts to go for it. The MHD OTS maps are as good as it gets before tunes will cause excessive wear.
BQ has sofar anwsered my questions but it hasn't been more then 1 or 2 sentences per E-mail.

Bringing to total cost of the tune to almost 500 dollars. I don't feel like it's worth it for 40 more hp and higher wear on the engine/turbos.

[Rival]

i will sacrifice power for reliability

A FMIC, Tuned, catless DP, DCI will produce 380/400 rwhp or close to it. I just want it to last a bit.

I have a 2010 with 80k on it, tons of work done, every gasket, hairdryers, water pump, etc, etc.

[Chris@VargasTurboTech]

Guys, there is no free lunch. If you want a part to last longer you add margin to it. That said, please remember the entire car is a wear item. If you want something that goes like stink and lasts forever, get a huge modern V8. You can get pretty good reliability out of these things with 2x the factory rated horsepower (with upgraded turbos and the right fuel) IF you use a little discretion in how you drive, how it's tuned, and your parts selection.

If you want 600 whp out of it, do you really expect it to last 150k miles if it's driven hard?

I got my car with 50k on it. I've put on 80k at ~400 whp+ for the first 50k and ~600 whp for the last 30k+. I drive it hard but I don't abuse it. My personal case is far from unique. When it goes I'll fix it.

We do, though, get emails from people who want 700 whp on stock down pipes and 93 octane with a 5" FMIC. That's more the crowd that's going to be upset when things melt. lol

[BaaQaf]

Originally Posted by Ballistic

.........but i get the very strong feeling that it's mostly done by raising to boost to 21psi or higher and deafning the antiknock sensors. I also had to buy another M Boost MHD option for 50euros and a new TMAP sensor.

He doesn't tune like that and he does not touch factory knock sensor calibrations - It has been repeated many times. If you are caught using the MHD Desensitize option he voids tuning support.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by dleccord

Is the XHP worth it to someone with Alpina flash?

If you dislike Alpina in D like most people yes. And M and S mode are that much better also.

[Rival]

How much is the a basic MHD tune. Ive read the thread a few times but its so long its tough to figure out what you exactly need....

I just want the ability to switch to 3-5lbs of more boost. I will purchase more flashes or additional tunes once i have a FMIC, DP, etc.

Last is a DCI or KN filter worth it..?? Is a charge pipe needed with 12/13lbs...??

Looks like a low boost tune, DCI/KN filter (maybe charge pipe too) would be the first 2/3 items id get all the the same time.

Than a FMIC & DP and higher boost tune & e85 later. Now i just want 4lbs more and pick up an intake if its worth it. Charge pipe if needed.

I do have an aftermarket warranty, so would prefer to stay closer to stock. thats y i wonder if a intake is worth it.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Rival

How much is the a basic MHD tune. Ive read the thread a few times but its so long its tough to figure out what you exactly need....

I just want the ability to switch to 3-5lbs of more boost. I will purchase more flashes or additional tunes once i have a FMIC, DP, etc.

Last is a DCI or KN filter worth it..?? Is a charge pipe needed with 12/13lbs...??

Looks like a low boost tune, DCI/KN filter (maybe charge pipe too) would be the first 2/3 items id get all the the same time.

Than a FMIC & DP and higher boost tune & e85 later. Now i just want 4lbs more and pick up an intake if its worth it. Charge pipe if needed.

I do have an aftermarket warranty, so would prefer to stay closer to stock. thats y i wonder if a intake is worth it.

MHD pricing can be found in the google app or their for sale thread in vendor section.

All you need is an android device, MHD/ K+Dcan Cable and OTG cable for your android device.

I prefer to recommend quality and true performing intakes but a DCI does have it's place when the stock intake becomes a restriction.

You'd get more power from an upgrade intercooler and more sound from a DCI in comparison.

If there is one thing about a tune and intake that is great, it's the sound, which is usually worth it to most people.

I guess when people ask the question is it worth it, the question remains, worth it in what respect? The power gain? If so, likely not, but it does gain power it's just not gobs of power.

The problem with the stock charge pipes is they have a tendency to crack once you raise boost (even stock boost and old charge pipe eventually fail).

It would't be a normal week if there is not at least one customer asking me to overnight them a charge pipe cause theirs randomly blew up on them, so I'd have to recommend one if you want to avoid that inconvenience.

[Rival]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

MHD pricing can be found in the google app or their for sale thread in vendor section.

All you need is an android device, MHD/ K+Dcan Cable and OTG cable for your android device.

I prefer to recommend quality and true performing intakes but a DCI does have it's place when the stock intake becomes a restriction.

You'd get more power from an upgrade intercooler and more sound from a DCI in comparison.

If there is one thing about a tune and intake that is great, it's the sound, which is usually worth it to most people.

I guess when people ask the question is it worth it, the question remains, worth it in what respect? The power gain? If so, likely not, but it does gain power it's just not gobs of power.

The problem with the stock charge pipes is they have a tendency to crack once you raise boost (even stock boost and old charge pipe eventually fail).

It would't be a normal week if there is not at least one customer asking me to overnight them a charge pipe cause theirs randomly blew up on them, so I'd have to recommend one if you want to avoid that inconvenience.

Okay, so thats a no on the intake and yes for the CP. I dont give a rats ass on the sound, it has the exhaust mod and is good for me. When i want more sound......Ill buy the catless DP's

I know the FMIC will be real power, cuz after that i will most likely lose a few lbs of boost, but than bring it back to normal, plus another 2-3lbs because i will not have a much lower IAT

So the car will be able to deal with the extra boost just fine. Thats why i will only add 3/4/5lbs to the stock IC.

[Chris@VargasTurboTech]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

It would't be a normal week if there is not at least one customer asking me to overnight them a charge pipe cause theirs randomly blew up on them, so I'd have to recommend one if you want to avoid that inconvenience.

Thanks for posting that.

Sometimes silly ideas creep back into the platform after enough years pass that it's not really an active subject of discussion any more.

The stock charge pipes will pop, and it's not usually at a convenient time. It's an easy part to pick up, they aren't very expensive, and you can choose whatever BOV/BPV suits your hearts content at the time.

No reason not to replace it when given an opportunity.

Or, pick one out from your cell phone while you wait for the tow truck. Either way it's probably getting replaced.

Chris