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$3AH Backup Camera + Top View Camera Retrofit Development Thread
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10-16-2018, 05:13 PM | #23 |
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My module came in today and it will not read or write in NCSexpert. I will play around with it a bit but my hopes are not high for this retrofit.
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10-16-2018, 07:39 PM | #24 |
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Can you see it with Tool32? I believe the job is trsvc_01.prg
If it's connected to Kcan1, I believe you should be able to see it. I'm curious if you can see it, and what errors you get. I have a trsvc installed, and working but it's from an F10. I have a retrofitted NBT/EVO so I have an adapter that provides a Kcan2 bus. The trsvc is on the Kcan1 bus, and requires a PDC module to function. I have a PDC module from an F10, and it's on the Kcan2 bus. I don't know if the E90 PDC module sends out the same message id's as the E70. The trsvc I have, even being from an F10 works on the Kcan1 bus, so I think a module from a E70 should work, provided you have a PDC module (I don't know if it has to be from an E70 or not). I don't know about NCSExpert, but in E-sys you can only see ECU's that were available to the FA that is loaded. I know that when you use NCSEpert it creates a FA file in the working directory, it might be using this to know what ECU's it should be accessible. You might be able to read the trsvc if you have a FA file from an E70 with 3AH when you try to read it. I would mess around with the FA in that folder to see if it allows you to read different ECU's. I'm curious if you get this working. I know the sideview and topview camera would work with my trsvc, but I don't have plans to install them. The sideview would be pretty easy to install in the front fenders, but I'm not sure they are worth the effort. I would like to install the topview camera's but I don't know if F30 mirrors mount the same as E90 mirrors, and I'm not willing to spend that kind of money on a test.
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10-16-2018, 08:54 PM | #26 |
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Rip this retrofit, I need a new jbe and pdc. I am going to look around for a quality china solution.
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10-17-2018, 10:08 AM | #28 | |
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Not jbe AND pdc - jbe OR pdc. Some models have the PDC module integrated with the jbe, others have a separate PDC module.
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11-30-2019, 11:06 AM | #29 |
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Sorry to revive an old thread but its pertinent to a job I'm doing on my E91.
I've already sourced and fitted an F31 trunk handle with camera. I did have to enlarge the aperture in the boot lid (trunk lid) to get it fitted. I've routed the HSD cable through into the car and have my TRSVC hooked up and powered up and sitting on KCAN. Its a second hand TRSVC with 3 inputs (for top view) from an F series car. I can communicate with the TRSVC diagnostically using non bmw specific equipment so I know its alive. I've coded 3AG in CAS and NFRM and wired to FBAS in CIC. Pins 18 27 28. Problem is nothing has changed in my CIC display when parking is active. I still only have the graphical display of front and rear sensors. No park menu, no room for camera video. Playing with coding in NCSexpert, I've enabled park menu, rotated PDC display to vertikal, changed between wert 21 & 23 values but nothing makes any changes, except park menu when that is aktiv I lose all parking display completely. There is still audio but no display at all. I could try VO coding 3AH (top view) as I'm using a top view enabled TRSVC. Is it normal for the display to only change to show video when there is an active input on FBAS? Thanks for any help. Last edited by Andystobbs; 11-30-2019 at 11:59 AM.. |
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11-30-2019, 12:53 PM | #30 | |
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With a CIC I would try using the camera gear our of a X1 as it is just a lifted E90. It has K-Can 1 like the E90. |
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11-30-2019, 12:59 PM | #31 |
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Thanks. I'm not really interested in top or surround view. Its only the RVC I'm after. I only got TRSVC with top view input because it was cheaper on ebay. I have a horrible feeling that the X1 camera module is different but I'll look into it.
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12-01-2019, 07:50 AM | #32 |
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What actually differs between KCAN and KCAN2?
Are we saying that the F series (with NBT) has two parallel KCAN networks or that KCAN2 is a revision of KCAN(1) with different architecture? |
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12-02-2019, 07:50 AM | #34 |
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So it turns out my TRSVC by pure accident and luck has come from an E70 rather than an Fxx so hopefully that's going to make it slightly more compatible.
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12-17-2019, 01:34 PM | #36 |
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Got it working today. A chance conversation with a guy who is also doing the same project revealed that an E84 PDC is an absolute neccessity as it is the PDC module that sends the CAN message to turn on the RVC image in the CIC, and possibly also the TRSVC. I had been mistakenly thinking that this would be the job of the TRSVC.
Anyway I bought a used E84 PDC module (I have front and rear sensors, which made it quite a rare module compared to rear only, but ebay delivered). Initially the E84 module as delivered did nothing but using an SSD file I was able to default code it and suddenly everything was working. I still cannot access the TRSVC with NCS, I'd like to go in and change some things to better set up the physical location of the camera on the car but that can wait for a bit more time. So I have the moving guidlines, brightness and contrast control, object marking and trailer hitch zoom all working perfectly (bar it being slightly off due to camera positioning as above). Pretty chuffed with that. Maybe one day I'll look at the top view side of things if I run out of other things to spend time and money on, just to see if its can be done. I owe a lot of the credit to Adrian who saved me a LOT of time in trying to work out how its meant to function for myself. |
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12-17-2019, 01:37 PM | #37 | |
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01-23-2020, 06:28 AM | #38 |
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Thanks for the shoutout Andy
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https://github.com/AdrianBude/E84-PDC-E89X P.S for other crazy people out there, it is possible to swap the 2L86D chip with a new 1L59W and flash it via BDM with Xprog (i.e convert a non E84 module). I destroyed a total of 3 chips trying so there's that... Last edited by Superwofy; 01-23-2020 at 06:35 AM.. |
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02-15-2020, 08:46 AM | #39 | |
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I did the Backup Camera retrofit. I used a TRSVC Module from an E70 (cheap on Ebay) and a PDC Module from E84. With your files i can code PDC. All is working but i can‘t code the TRSVC to code Trailer-Mode and adjust the green steering lines. Is it possible that you can make/merge some files that i can Access the TRSVC module with NCS. Tool32 say everytime IFH-0009. Thanks for all the infos ![]() Me Car: E81 03/2007 Sorry for my english, i‘m from Germany ![]() |
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03-06-2020, 08:09 PM | #40 |
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Hi i have an e82 1m coupe with cic 2012. I bought a kit from bimmer retrofit (but i dont recommend that) i got an enbt emulator and was able to retrofit the nbt evo id6 to my car. Nbt evo already pre coded for backup camera. I bought a trsvc from e70 with the side and top view. I found a coder and he helped me code my car. Was able to add $3ag and coded the pdc however he said he cant code or communicate with trsvc module. If u use ista i can see the trsvc module is yellow and the fault code is because or the side and top camera being empty (no plugged camera for those two).
Anyways it not working when i put it to reverse, to make it work i only need an e84 pdc? Do u have part numbers because on ebay they are selling e84 to e93 hehe |
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04-18-2020, 10:26 PM | #41 | |
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Go to CIC FSW replace this MACRO_TRAILER_COUPLING to AKTIV
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04-24-2020, 10:32 PM | #42 |
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I just pull some parts from x1 e84.
I have trsvc module and pdc with front and rear option. Can I somehow connect my Chinese RCA camera to trsvc module? I already retrofitted pdc in my e92 2012 and I'm using emulator for Rear view camera. I will install new pdc from e84 and would like also to install trsvc. |
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04-25-2020, 05:42 AM | #44 | |
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I got it completly working in my E81, also the steering lines are ok! I can trust this lines, without hitting something! ![]() I calibrated the Camera with INPA, with ISTA it didn‘t worked.. https://www.imageupload.net/image/3d9jg Last edited by Dubstar; 04-25-2020 at 05:50 AM.. |
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