[Soni]

interesting!!!

[cwn23]

Yeah but does this flash work on invisibility as far as DME81 and 29.2....People who get your flash if detected is not getting warranty work from you I assume if BMW voids their warranty!!!

[BavarianBullet]

Looks interesting.

For those of us still coping with the English system of measurements the above stage 2 graph translates to:

588nm @ 4187 RPM = 435 lb/ft of Torque
~400nm @ 6500RPM = 366 HP

Pretty good numbers for supposedly stock everything else. Are these numbers power at the wheels or engine as well as corrected or uncorrected to STP?

The only downside I see here other than the obvious "mail me your ECU" issue is the same as with any ECU flash tune method: there's no way to hide it or remove it from the BMW dealer. They're going to know you've been a very bad boy with their car.

"TUV" approval is an interesting comment. TUV as I understand is the equivalent of Underwriters Laboratories in the US. So what's the point of their approval? A reflash might not nuke the CPU and cause your cats to catch fire but I'm guessing BMW Deutschland isn't exactly going to be patting Eurotech on the back for squeezing out 366HP from a stock N54 by raising boost, etc. They're kinda designing the MSD and it's recent upgrades to prevent stuff like this. IOW, great idea for a race car, bad idea if you value your warranty.

Please correct me if I am wrong and thanks for at least offering yet another great tune for the N54!

[jcarlucci1]

There is no invisibility with a flash..unless you have the ability to go back to stock (sharkedit) If you bring your car into bmw with a flashed ecu, they're gonna know.

[EurotekTuningGmbH]

Just to let some know we will flash you back to stock anytime for a reasonable number of times you just pay shipping thats all. These plug in OBD options seem cool but they can also be risky.
We are aware of BMW giving clients a hard time nothing we can do about that. Our best advice is be good to your dealer.

We never had a single car denied warranty in 12 years and we only tune highline exotics. Ex. Ferrari in 2007 voided all warranty if you installed a TUBI or anything on the car. Porche now counts how many times you hit the RPM limiter etc but this doesnt stop owners from tuning. No matter what manufactures do to scare off tuning TUNING will never DIE.

[Acuracy]

very interesting. Im In NY and if custom tuning can be provided based on different mods I will DEFINITELY be seeing u guys in a few weeks depending on which part of New York u guys are located.

[uberschnell]

So please elaborate on what is covered by the 3 year warranty. Is this strictly for your tune, or is this a vehicle warranty in place of the manufacturers warranty (like Dinan)?

If it is full then how will you honor it? Will your company pay the repair costs directly to a BMW or certified repair shop?

I don't see how this would not void the BMW warranty if discovered on the car. Do you have any information to the contrary?

[E82tt6]

Perfect! This is the sort of tuning option I've been waiting for.

I'm sold, you folks have an email.

[oc24]

Wait, so if I'm in California, how do I get this flash done? I take out my ECU and ship it to you where? And is it hard to take out the ECU?

[Rusty's508whp]

[oc24]

But isn't there something inherently wrong with this? Let's say you have their flash, your fuel pump goes. You can't take out your ECU, ship it back to them, get it flashed back to stock, have it shipped back to you, put it back in, take the car in, get it fixed, take the ECU out again, send it back to get flashed, get it back in the mail, put it back in....

Am I missing something?

[darkphantom]

damn!

[E82tt6]

Originally Posted by slubu

But isn't there something inherently wrong with this? Let's say you have their flash, your fuel pump goes. You can't take out your ECU, ship it back to them, get it flashed back to stock, have it shipped back to you, put it back in, take the car in, get it fixed, take the ECU out again, send it back to get flashed, get it back in the mail, put it back in....

Am I missing something?

You can do exactly that.

[oc24]

Originally Posted by E82tt6

You can do exactly that.

Which really doesn't make this a practical option.

[E82tt6]

Originally Posted by slubu

Which really doesn't make this a practical option.

I don't think I understand the point you were trying to make... How is the ability to get the car returned to stock and then retuned for free a bad thing?

[PresaMat]

Question:

Do yall have speed limiter removal? Do you have any issues with limp modes?

Mat

[jcarlucci1]

Originally Posted by E82tt6

I don't think I understand the point you were trying to make... How is the ability to get the car returned to stock and then retuned for free a bad thing?

Because thats at least 6 days without your car..

[E82tt6]

Originally Posted by jcarlucci1

Because thats at least 6 days without your car..

For something that's completely uneccesary unless you're one of the unscrupulous individuals that tries to screw BMW out of warranty work because of a false sense of entitlement, thereby making it much more difficult for honest people to get legit warranty work done. In my opinion, that shouldn't be an issue, but if one would rather sacrifice smoothness, power, drivability, reliability, and all the other benefits of a custom tune for one of the undetectable PnP devices for the sake of easy install/uninstall, that's up to the individual.

[jcarlucci1]

Originally Posted by E82tt6

For something that's completely uneccesary unless you're one of the unscrupulous individuals that tries to screw BMW out of warranty work because of a false sense of entitlement, thereby making it much more difficult for honest people to get legit warranty work done. In my opinion, that shouldn't be an issue, but if one would rather sacrifice smoothness, power, drivability, reliability, and all the other benefits of a custom tune for one of the undetectable PnP devices for the sake of easy install/uninstall, that's up to the individual.

Thats not necessarily true. You know as well as I do that if you go to bmw for a bad fuel pump and you have a tune, they are not going to honor the warranty..even though fuel pumps have failed on probably thousands of stock cars

[E82tt6]

Originally Posted by jcarlucci1

Thats not necessarily true. You know as well as I do that if you go to bmw for a bad fuel pump and you have a tune, they are not going to honor the warranty..even though fuel pumps have failed on probably thousands of stock cars

Unless your dealer is a jerk, this is not a problem. It's a recall item, and if they give you crap about it, let them know that they can talk to your lawyer.

They would not have a leg to stand on in court. A recall is a recall. Pump fails, they fix it, as the part is known to be defective.

Furthermore, the only reason BMW attempts to deny warranties for silly things like that is because individuals go out of their way to conceal mods, and get BMW to pay for damage to the powertrain on cars making 30%+ more power than stock.

[billspreston]

Excellent news that more flash options are becoming available. I would be very interested in a 91 octane tune for catless downpipes. I don't think I would do this without a local installer, however. I'm sure the market in Southern California is strong enough with all the N54 engines running around here.

[oc24]

Originally Posted by E82tt6

Unless your dealer is a jerk, this is not a problem. It's a recall item, and if they give you crap about it, let them know that they can talk to your lawyer.

They would not have a leg to stand on in court. A recall is a recall. Pump fails, they fix it, as the part is known to be defective.

Furthermore, the only reason BMW attempts to deny warranties for silly things like that is because individuals go out of their way to conceal mods, and get BMW to pay for damage to the powertrain on cars making 30%+ more power than stock.

BMW can also contend that the tune, which increases the boost of the car and exceeds the designed performance of the car has induced excess stress which has caused the fuel pump that otherwise may not have failed, to fail. They deny the warranty. To the average person, hiring a lawyer to pursue this is not an option - a month's lease payment on the 335 will equal 1.5 hours of a decent lawyer's time which is enough for you to explain what has happened and for him to review some papers. It will easily cost the average person 5k to have his lawyer draft a complaint and fight the inevitable motions to dismiss that BMWs attorneys will throw at any complaint.

Again, BMW has and will deny warranties without merit. The point is you will have to fight them and that is an uphill battle. Most people do not want to have to deal with this issue and want a removable tune, and this method of shipping the ECU back and forth is not practical.