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      07-14-2008, 07:29 PM   #23
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I'm sure if you drive the GTR hard its' going to feel better. If given a choice of what do I want free...GTR.

For the money I enjoy my 335 and could rock a sweet Jeep for fun. Two cars for the same price.
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what tracks do they let you race the GTR in the USA at? i know the GPS logs what tracks you run at to void your nissan warranty. wonder how long it will take for bmw to do the same

i'd never risk the family truckster 335i at a track too much $$ risk $$ for me.
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      07-14-2008, 07:51 PM   #25
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i herd all the gtrs coming to the states are detuned and run alot diff numbers just what i herd dunno how true it is
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Nice post! :Thumbsup: The GT-R is a beast... I love the huge proportions it has, and the overall styling. I just wish it had a slower 6MT manual option so I would want to buy one.
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      07-14-2008, 08:00 PM   #27
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they just need to go steal some italians to design a decent body for that car. i'm sure its functional but dayum.

you guys saw top gear last night with the GT-r? awesome dash computer but dayum fugly to the 10th degree.
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i think that pink 'vette is that nappy old broad Angelyne's. There used to be billboards of her all over LA in a failed attempt to make her famous.
Ya pretty sure thats hers. Shes had a bunch of pink ones.
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Will the real Nissan Skyline GT-R please stand up?

Car and Driver has now run at least two instrumented tests of production spec. U.S. GT-Rs. The first GT-R ran 12.1 @ 115mph. This was the test with the M3 and the 911 Turbo.

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Their latest test has the GT-R mixing it up with a Viper ACR, Corvette Z06, and 911 GT2. This particular GT-R clocks a 12.6 @ 111mph 1/4 mile run.

Both these times are pretty far off what the pre-production GT-Rs were running. If these times are representative of what the stock, U.S. spec GT-R runs, I think a V3/JB3/Dinan Stg. 3 335i could hang with one of these cars from a roll.
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Car and Driver has now run at least two instrumented tests of production spec. U.S. GT-Rs. The first GT-R ran 12.1 @ 115mph. This was the test with the M3 and the 911 Turbo.

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Their latest test has the GT-R mixing it up with a Viper ACR, Corvette Z06, and 911 GT2. This particular GT-R clocks a 12.6 @ 111mph 1/4 mile run.

Both these times are pretty far off what the pre-production GT-Rs were running. If these times are representative of what the stock, U.S. spec GT-R runs, I think a V3/JB3/Dinan Stg. 3 335i could hang with one of these cars from a roll.
Wow those are some pretty slow times compared to the rest! Guess I will have to run some GTRs and report back. After giving the young guy in the 08 C6 all that he could handle, I think the 335i can pull off some pretty nice upsets here and there!
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man that gtr looks bad, i think that styling will become dated though... i like how far back the motor looks positioned, explains the many positive reviews about how easy it is to push the gtr to the limit in handling that would balance its 3900 lbs nicely (same as my s4 avant weight lol!). i bet that pink vette was someone famous, who else would spend money to look like that lol.
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Car and Driver has now run at least two instrumented tests of production spec. U.S. GT-Rs. The first GT-R ran 12.1 @ 115mph. This was the test with the M3 and the 911 Turbo.

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Their latest test has the GT-R mixing it up with a Viper ACR, Corvette Z06, and 911 GT2. This particular GT-R clocks a 12.6 @ 111mph 1/4 mile run.

Both these times are pretty far off what the pre-production GT-Rs were running. If these times are representative of what the stock, U.S. spec GT-R runs, I think a V3/JB3/Dinan Stg. 3 335i could hang with one of these cars from a roll.
This is from the Car and Driver article.

"That GT-R from the May issue launched at 4500 rpm; 4400 rpm is the final setting for production. This GT-R may have been down on power; the May car ran the quarter-mile in 11.5 seconds at 124 mph. This one couldn’t crack 12 seconds and was a stunning 9 mph slower. (We’ve since tested a third GT-R that was as quick as the first car.)

...We’re guessing that our GT-R test vehicle hadn’t led the life of Riley, and it probably collected many of its 3976 miles one launch-control-aided acceleration run after another. By test’s end, its transmission made a lot of disconcerting whirring and clomping noises, and a clutch-temperature warning light did illuminate briefly but extinguished itself after a couple of minutes."

The car tested in that article is the same one that Warren saw, and I got to ride in. I know for a fact that the car had been beaten up by the press. The odometer had over 5k as of yesterday. It probably had been launched with launch control a hundred plus times (guessing). The 12.x is not indicative of the car's real quarter mile time in my opinion. I think the fact that the car had been driven very hard needs to be taken into consideration.
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Wow those are some pretty slow times compared to the rest! Guess I will have to run some GTRs and report back. After giving the young guy in the 08 all that he could handle, I think the 335i can pull off some pretty nice upsets here and there!
im torn, i want to pwn a gtr with a 335i but it was fun knowing something bigger/better was coming out =/ another car to covet and purchase (preowned lol)
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The car tested in that article is the same one that Warren saw, and I got to ride in. I know for a fact that the car had been beaten up by the press. The odometer had over 5k as of yesterday. It probably had been launched with launch control a hundred plus times (guessing). The 12.x is not indicative of the car's real quarter mile time in my opinion. I think the fact that the car had been driven very hard needs to be taken into consideration.
That might explain the slow times for the GT-R in C/D's first comparison test.

However, the GT-R in the August 2008 article was slower still. They had this to say about it.

C/D: "And while earlier GT-Rs we've tested outpaced everything here, this example here was a relative woofer. It was the only car in the test - and the only GT-R we've tested - needing more than four seconds to hit 60 mph and more than 12 seconds to reach the quarter mile."

So, were the early GT-Rs Nissan gave to the major U.S. car mags "ringers"? With numbers all over the board, what kind of performance should a US Skyline buyer expect?
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+100. I did just that. I got a 335i and a Toyota RAV4 V6

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I'm sure if you drive the GTR hard its' going to feel better. If given a choice of what do I want free...GTR.

For the money I enjoy my 335 and could rock a sweet Jeep for fun. Two cars for the same price.
For the price of my tuned 335 + RAV, I'd have had an M3 well optioned or even an Audi S5 (just oozes beauty. Dayum!), or even an AMG C63, but in the end, I prefer two cars for that price. I just can't see myself getting a single vehicle that tips the scales at $60K. That is my absolute No-No limit. I just don't think it makes any value arguement unless its a damn rally car or a Ferrari. I mean for about $60K you can have a relatively luxurious vehicle that will pretty much hang with any exortic out there. Even a Ferrari 360 that costs leagues more than our lowly 335s is not leagues more comfortable and wont be able to really literally blow away a well tuned 335 either. Beat it maybe, but not by that huge of a margin. So there goes my reasoning.
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For the price of my tuned 335 + RAV, I'd have had an M3 well optioned or even an Audi S5 (just oozes beauty. Dayum!), or even an AMG C63, but in the end, I prefer two cars for that price. I just can't see myself getting a single vehicle that tips the scales at $60K. That is my absolute No-No limit. I just don't think it makes any value arguement unless its a damn rally car or a Ferrari. I mean for about $60K you can have a relatively luxurious vehicle that will pretty much hang with any exortic out there. Even a Ferrari 360 that costs leagues more than our lowly 335s is not leagues more comfortable and wont be able to really literally blow away a well tuned 335 either. Beat it maybe, but not by that huge of a margin. So there goes my reasoning.
In that sense, your 335i doesnt' beat modified srt-4's by a huge margin either.
Maybe you will get beat by some.

Ferrari is a completely different driving experience and comparing your 335i to it just because you don't get beat by it much is just foolish.

But whatever makes you happy.
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Apparently, 335i owners love to smoke a lot of crack because some of the responses are just hilarious. I think it's quite sad when you have to justify your purchase to people on a forum. If you can't afford a GT-R or Ferrari then that's it, don't compare how they are only a "little bit better" than your 335. GT-R/Ferrari/Vettes are not in the same league as the 335i no matter how many tunes or what octane fuel you use.

I bet some of you don't know that the STi and Evo X will smoke your 335i for much less than what you paid for.

Get over yourselves.
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^^ well said.
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Apparently, 335i owners love to smoke a lot of crack because some of the responses are just hilarious. I think it's quite sad when you have to justify your purchase to people on a forum. If you can't afford a GT-R or Ferrari then that's it, don't compare how they are only a "little bit better" than your 335. GT-R/Ferrari/Vettes are not in the same league as the 335i no matter how many tunes or what octane fuel you use.

I bet some of you don't know that the STi and Evo X will smoke your 335i for much less than what you paid for.

Get over yourselves.


335 is best/fastest car EVAR*!!!!!

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Quads on the GTR look MEAN
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I already knew that, but I wanted a 335 because I like BMW.

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In that sense, your 335i doesnt' beat modified srt-4's by a huge margin either.
Maybe you will get beat by some.

Ferrari is a completely different driving experience and comparing your 335i to it just because you don't get beat by it much is just foolish.

But whatever makes you happy.
Read my post. I just wanted something less than 60K. BTW love the RAV 4 V6 Sport for what it is too. Just my preferences. I could just as easily have spent all the money on one car, but like I said, I liked them both and didn't want to spend to much on any car. To each their own. I am not trying to justify the 335 or what I did. BTW I once had an eagle talon that was insane fast, but the damn car rattled worse than a rattle snake by 25K miles. I imagine the SRT4 might be similar. I know I hate the way it drones almost bust your eardrums. So no, I'd not buy an SRT4 no matter what it had in it. Just not my taste

And no I am not comparing a Ferrari with the 335 in that sense. I don't give a damn about some percieved "expirience" that is not worth anything to me. So I am no fool, just going with what matters to me. I am a practical guy, not the type that stares at strange pictures I can't figure out and claims I see a rabbit in there. What I am saying is I am not that sofisiticated and don't pretend to be. I am happy with who I am, so if I had the money for a Ferrarri (can't afford one anyway), I still wouldn't buy one, and would do exactly as I did this time around.
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those brembos are way nice on the gtr...they look CLEAN!
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gtr has less space in a back to sit for people, and check 335i there can sit 2 normal size adults so who is the best only 335i
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