Spearco / Code3 FMIC and my Noelle ECU tune - performance gains

e90AW335i · 08-12-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by e.n335

Graph posted

Dang. That is a gain throughout the powerband. Very very nice Eugen....

e.n335 · 08-12-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

Dang. That is a gain throughout the powerband. Very very nice Eugen....

Please note that the powerband starts much more early compared to the stock FMIC

. You also can see that the drivetrain loss % decreases with the additional power the tuning provides.

I did 3 runs. Virtually no time to cool down anything. Hood closed. All have been within a 3 hp and 3 nm range ( crank ) . I posted the highest one.

This is a high-tech dyno location - check it out: http://www.sportec.ch/page2490.html - the place to be

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HP Autosport · 08-14-2008, 12:14 AM

We should have a solution for the automatic cars by Friday!

Harold

e.n335 · 08-14-2008, 06:33 AM

I will buy the Code3 for steptronic cars as soon it is available rather than continue to modify my Spearco. Looking forward to Friday

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Robmaster · 08-14-2008, 08:08 AM

hey Eugen!

where did you buy the FMCI?

29hp more with just the FMCI... WOW!

e.n335 · 08-14-2008, 08:14 AM

I bought it from Autotalent and will buy the Code3 / Spearco from HP Autowerks, thus they will provide a solution for steptronic cars.

Former_Boosted_IS · 08-14-2008, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.n335

Please note that the powerband starts much more early compared to the stock FMIC

. You also can see that the drivetrain loss % decreases with the additional power the tuning provides.

I did 3 runs. Virtually no time to cool down anything. Hood closed. All have been within a 3 hp and 3 nm range ( crank ) . I posted the highest one.

This is a high-tech dyno location - check it out: http://www.sportec.ch/page2490.html - the place to be

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Eugene, nothing personal but that has nothing to do with drivetrain loss. An intercooler does nothing for the drivetrain?

I think you are seeing the heat soak issues that come with the stock intercooler. On higher rpms, especially on a long 5th gear pull, the heat soak issue would be much more substantial on the top of the gear.

e.n335 · 08-14-2008, 09:35 AM

The black and green lines on the bottom of the graph show the drivetrain loss.

Former_Boosted_IS · 08-14-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by e.n335

The black and green lines on the bottom of the graph show the drivetrain loss.

Isn't that calculated? How are they doing a crank and wheel dyno? That is the only way to calculate the drivetrain loss.

Am I the only one that wonders why in the world they convert wheel to crank hp?

HP Autosport · 08-14-2008, 10:33 PM

The Code3 Spearco IC will be ready to ship on Friday, the 15th!

e.n335 · 08-15-2008, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

The Code3 Spearco IC will be ready to ship on Friday, the 15th!

Great, ordered one to fix my intermediate Spearco install.

- Eugen

jam0321 · 08-15-2008, 01:31 AM

told you the Spearco unit was worth it

glad things worked out in the end. Enjoy the ride!

e.n335 · 08-15-2008, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jam0321

told you the Spearco unit was worth it

glad things worked out in the end. Enjoy the ride!

I know and this FMIC is my baby as well

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jam0321 · 08-16-2008, 04:14 AM

From your push to create a better FMIC, to a list of nearly 100 buyers, and now a Dinan product...

congrats

HP Autosport · 08-16-2008, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jam0321

From your push to create a better FMIC, to a list of nearly 100 buyers, and now a Dinan product...

congrats

Well, the original Turbonetics/Spearco design is actually Code3/Spearco now.

Dinan offers a similar product should we say, but not the original Turbonetics/Spearco one. On top of that, they want an arm and a leg for it!

e.n335 · 08-16-2008, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

Well, the original Turbonetics/Spearco design is actually Code3/Spearco now.

Dinan offers a similar product should we say, but not the original Turbonetics/Spearco one. On top of that, they want an arm and a leg for it!

Thats why I bought one from you. Plus, it fixes the installation issue on Steptronic cars. Great

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HP Autosport · 08-16-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by e.n335

Thats why I bought one from you. Plus, it fixes the installation issue on Steptronic cars. Great

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Thanks for the business!

e.n335 · 08-22-2008, 12:05 PM

Got the corrected Code3 / Spearco FMIC for auto transmissions today.

The charge pipe is shorter now and a longer, straight hose for the discharge pipe is provided. With the Turbonetics / Spearco I had fitting problems with the discharge pipe and the transmission cooler. I don't understand this solution

.

I hope HP Autowerks will chime in to clarify ...

Eugen

e.n335 · 08-22-2008, 01:53 PM

This picture shows the Code3 / Spearco FMIC and where the problem with the autos and the Turbonetics / Spearco has been. I can see no difference. However, the other pipe is shorter ( which did not cause any installation problems with the Turbonetics / Spearco unit ) ...

flukey · 08-22-2008, 02:34 PM

I would like to know the issue too before I plunge in :P

HP Autosport · 08-22-2008, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.n335

Got the corrected Code3 / Spearco FMIC for auto transmissions today.

The charge pipe is shorter now and a longer, straight hose for the discharge pipe is provided. With the Turbonetics / Spearco I had fitting problems with the discharge pipe and the transmission cooler. I don't understand this solution

.

I hope HP Autowerks will chime in to clarify ...

Eugen

Hi Eugen,

The discharge tube off the IC has been re-clocked to a slightly less than 12 o'clock position, before it was slightly to the right.

The shorter discharge tubing between the IC and the throttle body allows the tube to sit a bit lower and not interfere with the upper radiator hose.

The discharge off of the IC will be very close to the trans cooler, but should not be touching.

e.n335 · 08-22-2008, 04:51 PM

^ Thank you for your feedback. I will perform the install on Sept. 5th.

- Eugen

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Robmaster Colonel 153 Rep 2,751 Posts Drives: 2010 E82 135, 2005 E87 130i Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Switzerland iTrader: (3)	hey Eugen! where did you buy the FMCI? 29hp more with just the FMCI... WOW!
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e.n335 Moderator 282 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	I bought it from Autotalent and will buy the Code3 / Spearco from HP Autowerks, thus they will provide a solution for steptronic cars.
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e.n335 Moderator 282 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	The black and green lines on the bottom of the graph show the drivetrain loss.
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08-16-2008, 04:14 AM	#36
jam0321 I do screenprinting and embroiderry 11 Rep 277 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So Cal iTrader: (0)	From your push to create a better FMIC, to a list of nearly 100 buyers, and now a Dinan product... congrats __________________ Go Big or Go Home!!! www.specopsoutfitters.com
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08-22-2008, 12:05 PM	#40
e.n335 Moderator 282 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	Got the corrected Code3 / Spearco FMIC for auto transmissions today. The charge pipe is shorter now and a longer, straight hose for the discharge pipe is provided. With the Turbonetics / Spearco I had fitting problems with the discharge pipe and the transmission cooler. I don't understand this solution . I hope HP Autowerks will chime in to clarify ... Eugen
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e.n335 Moderator 282 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	This picture shows the Code3 / Spearco FMIC and where the problem with the autos and the Turbonetics / Spearco has been. I can see no difference. However, the other pipe is shorter ( which did not cause any installation problems with the Turbonetics / Spearco unit ) ...
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e.n335 Moderator 282 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	^ Thank you for your feedback. I will perform the install on Sept. 5th. - Eugen
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