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[S4to335]

Originally Posted by MORRAlloys

We have rear VS7s. We just can't match the old paint since we do not work with that coating facility any longer. Would coating the entire set work for you?

Maybe too hard to do the logistics..but thanks for the offer. I will contact you to discuss some options.

[eeesh2u]

Originally Posted by MORRAlloys

I`m trying to understand your point and offer my assistance as much as possible. I appreciate the business and support of every one of my customers since they are potential new buyers and virtually market our wheels for us, but what do you suppose caused this several dents on the wheel if you have not hit any potholes?

I'm not saying it wasn't caused by potholes, Lord knows they are everywhere nowadays. If the wheels didn't have the past history they do, it wouldn't be quite as sensitive a subject. But with all the other defects with finish and paint, how could one not speculate that there may have been a manufacturing defect as well?

I brought up the paint run on my 5th wheel when I was discussing something else and someone pointed it out in the pic. After that issue was raised by others on the forum, you offered to have them repainted as a set. But I, like S4to335, just don't have the time to take wheels off, remove tires, ship them back, and wait on the set to come back (for how long?), put the rubber back on (which on a low profile tire like this, isn't be best thing to mount, remove, remount) balance again and put back on the car. It would be infinitely easier to have a replacement set sent, have the tire shop swap rubber in one visit, and ship the wheels back to be repainted and resold. Thats the better scenario. Customer is happy, customer can attest to getting great customer service in the event of problems to other potential customers. I could have made a big stink about all of this when it was happening, during all the group buys, etc, but thats not my style. Seeing a busted ass wheel come off my car was just icing on the cake.

S4to335, I have an extra rear...

[ALPINE_997]

Originally Posted by eeesh2u

Hey buddy, those are the tires that were JUST PUT ON. So blame UPS, or STFU.

And I have it out for MORR??? No, but I don't think there is an excuse for everything I had to go through to get 4 wheels that are "good enough" to mount. I bought five wheels, did anyone else have to do that to get a complete set BEFORE mounting them? Did yours STILL have paint runs in them?? You sound more like a fanboy for MORR than someone bringing an objective opinion.

Excuses Excuses. Not a MORR fanboy but if that is the best that you can come up with for an attack then so be it.

Blame UPS for what? Inner Tire scrub marks from the road? a tear in your tire from the ROAD near the first bend? The Bend in your RIMS from the road? The crappy weights that were mounted on your rimes? I can see where they once had stickered weights. Couldn't balance them correctly so they went with the other?

No comments on what I pointed out? People like you make me laugh as you want to say you did nothing and something like 2 bends in your wheels resulted from that "NOTHING".

Live and learn kid live and learn. Nothing is perfect. I had to go through 3 sets of BBS's before I got a complete set that were correct. I am not picky either. Are you going to pick on their process? They have one of the best in the world.

Just because your panties are in a wad over the bend don't come down on me. I am pointing out the facts that you cannot address. Before you attack any WHEEL company make sure you state the facts.

You DID hit a POTHOLE. Yes you WILL Bend a RIM if you hit it hard enough. You can clearly see where you scrubbed the tires on the inside. The direction marks and all indicates such.

Fix the RIM and move on. Don't go bashing on a company because of life and potholes. We all live with them so you are not an exception.

If you think telling me STFU and anything else will get my going? It won't. I will just

[eeesh2u]

Originally Posted by ALPINE_997

Excuses Excuses. Not a MORR fanboy but if that is the best that you can come up with for an attack then so be it.

Blame UPS for what? Inner Tire scrub marks from the road? a tear in your tire from the ROAD near the first bend? The Bend in your RIMS from the road? The crappy weights that were mounted on your rimes? I can see where they once had stickered weights. Couldn't balance them correctly so they went with the other?

No comments on what I pointed out? People like you make me laugh as you want to say you did nothing and something like 2 bends in your wheels resulted from that "NOTHING".

Live and learn kid live and learn. Nothing is perfect. I had to go through 3 sets of BBS's before I got a complete set that were correct. I am not picky either. Are you going to pick on their process? They have one of the best in the world.

Just because your panties are in a wad over the bend don't come down on me. I am pointing out the facts that you cannot address. Before you attack any WHEEL company make sure you state the facts.

You DID hit a POTHOLE. Yes you WILL Bend a RIM if you hit it hard enough. You can clearly see where you scrubbed the tires on the inside. The direction marks and all indicates such.

Fix the RIM and move on. Don't go bashing on a company because of life and potholes. We all live with them so you are not an exception.

If you think telling me STFU and anything else will get my going? It won't. I will just

Please tell me what you would like me to comment on. The entire basis of your argument was based on a fallacy, something you would have been better to check upon before making childish accusations. Remember, I'm not the one who started the snide remarks, it was you.

In the end, you're the one who looks like the jackass. Enjoy your time in the limelight.

And BTW, if you read the thread over a lot of your own questions would have been answered. I don't need to repeat myself. You're more than welcome to compare competencies with me if you want to be silly.

Please, someone whose dignified call me out if I'm wrong? I think I've been quite level headed, bringing out the facts of my case and not making accusations with no basis.

[KingKye]

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[KL2DC]

Alpine_997 and eesh2u, please keep the discussion progressive and mature so we can benefit the entire community. Thank you.

[eeesh2u]

Originally Posted by KL2DC

Alpine_997 and eesh2u, please keep the discussion progressive and mature so we can benefit the entire community. Thank you.

I was attempting to until someone brought me down to their level. I have no problem retracting my comments if he does the same.

Carlos, feel free to PM me if you have any thoughts that should stay private. I'm not purposefully trying to cause you harm, only sharing my experiences. Thats what the forum is for.

[ALPINE6SPD]

EEESH2U
Just a suggestion. If anything like this happens again with any vendor call them before posting. If they then do not fix it or dont do enough to make you satisfied THEN post this. Give Carlos a chance to fix this issue with you. I am sure if you work with him he will try to make it better.

As he said he has sold hundreds and hundreds sets of wheels so helping you out is not going to be a issue for him. He has more on the line than you do. I am sure he has made mucho $$$$$ in sale (which he deserves every penny of) on the hundreds of sets he has sold so giving you one rim or helping you out in the long run is the only smart business move. He would not have sold all of those wheels if he was not a good business person so I would not worry about that with Carlos. I am on other forums (example 6speedonline) and he has the sold may sets of these to cars way higher end than BMW's and everyone there has a ton of respect for him and his company. This is another reason why I would not worry about MORR as a company and Carlos as good business person. PM or call him and work it out then repost if you feel he did not do enough for you which I think will NOT be the case. Just an idea and i am not trying to make you look dumb or attack you, I am just trying to help you get this resolved.

[eeesh2u]

Originally Posted by ALPINE6SPD

EEESH2U
Just a suggestion. If anything like this happens again with any vendor call them before posting. If they then do not fix it or dont do enough to make you satisfied THEN post this. Give Carlos a chance to fix this issue with you. I am sure if you work with him he will try to make it better.

As he said he has sold hundreds and hundreds sets of wheels so helping you out is not going to be a issue for him. He has more on the line than you do. I am sure he has made mucho $$$$$ in sale (which he deserves every penny of) on the hundreds of sets he has sold so giving you one rim or helping you out in the long run is the only smart business move. He would not have sold all of those wheels if he was not a good business person so I would not worry about that with Carlos. I am on other forums (example 6speedonline) and he has the sold may sets of these to cars way higher end than BMW's and everyone there has a ton of respect for him and his company. This is another reason why I would not worry about MORR as a company and Carlos as good business person. PM or call him and work it out then repost if you feel he did not do enough for you which I think will NOT be the case. Just an idea and i am not trying to make you look dumb or attack you, I am just trying to help you get this resolved.

I've sent PMs, and trust me, I reached out to him a few times over the course of my purchase. I did state that in the thread. I am the FIRST guy to give someone the benefit of the doubt. I didn't post any of this in haste. Anyone who knows me will attest to my character.

I did send another PM to Carlos today with an idea of how to resolve all of this, and make me a returning MORR customer, something I want to do (I've also made that clear, I WANT to buy more wheels from him)

[PresaMat]

Originally Posted by MORRAlloys

First of all, lets slow it down here. Let's not start speculating anything.

Just to make sure everybody understands this, we have over 1500 VS7 wheels on the road right know with over 2 years of exposure and we have only had two cases of bent wheels other than S4to335. One was hitting a ladder at highway speeds and another one hit a 2" metal plate on the road at highway speeds as well. BOTH hits cause only a dent on the wheel with no cracks and no wheel deformation attesting how much of a hit our wheels can take. On cast wheels or a low quality forged wheels those hits could have caused the wheels to severely crack subsequently causing the vehicle to loose control and crash, which with our wheels was not the case. With that being said, Forged wheels are not indestructible. They are a lot stronger than cast but can still bent.

eeesh2u: I'm very sorry to hear that but I really can't image what kind of abuse that wheel went through to cause several dents on one wheel?

PresaMat: Do you have photos of the damage? Have you previously contacted us regarding this?

Carlos

Hello Carlos,
Thanks for the reply. I hadn't contacted yall before regarding it... I just thought it was part of wheel ownership. I *just* spent $600 to have them fixed - the bent ones that is. One of the wheels though cannot be fixed - there are 3 major cracks in it and it wont hold air pressure. They tried to fix it but said it just wasnt strong enough to be fixed and the cracks were too major. I just found that out today actually. I called and left yall a message but have no heard back. If you could return my call maybe we can workout some sort of arrangement.

[PresaMat]

Originally Posted by PresaMat

Hello Carlos,
Thanks for the reply. I hadn't contacted yall before regarding it... I just thought it was part of wheel ownership. I *just* spent $600 to have them fixed - the bent ones that is. One of the wheels though cannot be fixed - there are 3 major cracks in it and it wont hold air pressure. They tried to fix it but said it just wasnt strong enough to be fixed and the cracks were too major. I just found that out today actually. I called and left yall a message but have no heard back. If you could return my call maybe we can workout some sort of arrangement.

I just spoke with Carlos on the phone. He offered me a very fair deal that I will be taking him up on. I will give updates once it is completely resolved. I definitely recommend everyone who may be having issues give Carlos a call.

[ALPINE_997]

Originally Posted by KL2DC

Alpine_997 and eesh2u, please keep the discussion progressive and mature so we can benefit the entire community. Thank you.

I am trying to keep it progressive and will continue to do so.

We all have complaints and some are founded and some are not.

I only own one BMW currently(BMW X5) so I have no horse in this race in regards to being an alleged MORR Fanboy.

My point in moving this forward was that an attack on a sponsor of any sorts with pictures clearly showing evidence of "driver" error should be locked and not unlocked until it can be resolved.

The he said she said thing will never win in a public forum.

All too often I see people complaining about how something resulted out of nothing and want to blame the world. My apologies if it went into the left field. I will try to continue to pitch down the middle with a slight slide..

[eeesh2u]

To Alpine,

In the spirit of being progressive...

I hardly see this as an attack on a sponsor. And if it was, are you here to quell the protestor and save the day? Last time I checked, free speech was something we protected in this country, and something that has been encouraged by way of forums like this.

YOUR "clear evidence of driver error"? Yeah, that was debunked. The best part was that you said if you hadn't seen that you'd be inclined to side with me. When I corrected you, you accused me of lying. Would you like the phone number of the wheel shop to check my story? Is that your job? To protect the integrity of this forum? I never denied the possibility of hitting a pothole. See, thats the best part, everything you've accused me of was already discussed! If you just READ, but no! You're in a hurry to sidearm another antagonistic remark!

I've been open enough with everything I said for other to draw their own conclusions. Your antics did nothing but bring this thread down. Your attempt to appear noble will fall on deaf ears and blind eyes, because you've already discounted your credibility.

I feel confident in my words and actions.

Delete your posts, and I'll delete any mention of our disagreements.

[S4to335]

Originally Posted by KL2DC

Alpine_997 and eesh2u, please keep the discussion progressive and mature so we can benefit the entire community. Thank you.

Geez..your acting like your a moderator...

[mJ335]

Originally Posted by KL2DC

Alpine_997 and eesh2u, please keep the discussion progressive and mature so we can benefit the entire community. Thank you.

Actually.. it's things like these that bring a part of "entertainment" in this beneficial forum. No offense.

[gtrokin330]

imo my old 1200 cast wheels were stronger

[ALPINE_997]

Originally Posted by eeesh2u

To Alpine,

In the spirit of being progressive...

I hardly see this as an attack on a sponsor. And if it was, are you here to quell the protestor and save the day? Last time I checked, free speech was something we protected in this country, and something that has been encouraged by way of forums like this.

YOUR "clear evidence of driver error"? Yeah, that was debunked. The best part was that you said if you hadn't seen that you'd be inclined to side with me. When I corrected you, you accused me of lying. Would you like the phone number of the wheel shop to check my story? Is that your job? To protect the integrity of this forum? I never denied the possibility of hitting a pothole. See, thats the best part, everything you've accused me of was already discussed! If you just READ, but no! You're in a hurry to sidearm another antagonistic remark!

I've been open enough with everything I said for other to draw their own conclusions. Your antics did nothing but bring this thread down. Your attempt to appear noble will fall on deaf ears and blind eyes, because you've already discounted your credibility.

I feel confident in my words and actions.

Delete your posts, and I'll delete any mention of our disagreements.

- need I say more?

In the interest of this thread please do not edit your original post...

[sam480]

Sorry to hijack. I like this thread. I've learn a lot. I wanted lightweight (16lbs) wheels for a 135. I like the SSR Type C, but have concern regarding their business expiration date.

Large diameter rims are good for show. But performance-wise, smaller diameter and larger profile tire works best to supplement a tuned suspension.

What I worry about is on hard-cornering, the lightweight wheel will load where the spoke meets the rim.

[BMW MotorSport]

sam this is a 2month old thread, but yes you are correct the load is where the spokes are.