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12-01-2020, 09:06 PM | #23 | |
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You're entitled to your opinion, not going to argue or try to change your mind. Just telling you how convertibles are looked at in the USA by almost every younger-mid aged person that I have talked to, and why they are generally cheaper here........ You're right on a few things, heavier/less rigidity doesn't mean much to most people buying regular BMW's. Anyways, lets not derail OP's thread any further by discussing irrelevant opinions |
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12-01-2020, 09:36 PM | #24 | |
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https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...&numRecords=25 I still see convertibles sell for higher price than coupes too. So I m not sure who are all these guys you are talking too and how you say that you speak for the USA somehow ... But again , you walk into a dealer and price a convertible vs a coupe with the same specs and the convertible will always be more expensive. So if the USA people somehow see convertibles as a lesser option , it sounds crazy to think the dealers would sell their convertibles at a higher price?. I mean there is a reason they are price higher than coupes . If the people in the USA somehow think the way you say they think , it just does not make any sense that a dealer would be selling their convertibles at a higher price, noone would be buying them . The used market is not that much different. Same options , mileage, etc ,etc a convertible is a little more expensive than a coupe. Specially on a luxury brand like BMW. Its a different story some guys want to think that a little more weight and less rigidity is somehow going to make a huge difference on the street. I really don't see it. The 335 is plenty capable regardless of coupe or convertible for 99.9% of driving. At the end of the day , its a luxury car , not a sports car. You get some sportiness with it . A track test is a different story , but how many people are actually beating the crap out of a 335 on the track. I make good money and i dont even think I could afford to keep a 335 running on a track lol But you are right, we just have different opinions. I was just curious to see if the convertibles actually sell for less in the usa used market as you pointed many times as a fact. To me surprise the story is a little different which makes sense. |
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12-01-2020, 09:41 PM | #25 |
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Ya brand new, and therefor used, the convertible is more expensive to build. More difficult, more moving parts associated etc. Plus girls buy convertibles and can't negotiate
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12-01-2020, 10:00 PM | #26 | |
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You got me there though, every time I've searched used car prices in the past, I have always seen convertible BMW's for less than the corresponding coupes, but maybe that's because I don't specifically look at convertible prices mainly. Maybe it has to do with every time I saw a killer deal on an M3, it was a convertible lol. And also usually convertibles are optioned out more than a coupe so that likely factors in to the slightly higher pricing. True, these are originally luxury cars, but 13+ years after the fact more people are getting into these cars(335 specifically) because of the (engine)performance they are capable of, and they handle exceptionally well also. I live in Cali, probably make way less than you, own a home, and have no problem affording to track my 335i btw. |
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12-01-2020, 10:54 PM | #27 |
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What the hell did I start here hahaha
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12-02-2020, 08:55 AM | #29 | |
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I think there are 2 markets for the 335i or IS, one is the guys looking to mod the crap out of this car, usually the guys trying to get a sick deal thus the low prices on many used 335i models. The other market is the more " mature" market looking for a " garage queen" / "look at me type of car" , something more special without breaking the bank , this market is usually willing to pay a higher price for a used car nothing wrong with each market. If you can get a really good deal on a 335 , you could put the rest of the money on mods and maintenance and end up with one hell of a performance car . Or if you just want something nice to drive around town , make you " look rich" and still have something to back it up a convertible may be a better option. I would personally prefer the latter, realistically speaking the only place I would push this car somewhere close to its limits would be the track. But cost of tires, brakes , etc ,etc is just way to much on these cars , to me at least. I ve looked into it for a while and its just not worth it . It would take the enjoyment out of it . I think this is the reason you do not see many high end cars on the track. Average joe would prefer a more friendly maintenance vehicle to trash . Go to any track and you ll see japanese cars, some older e36/e46s , you may also have the rich guys with their porshe , lambo , etc etc ( thats a whole different level type of crew ) Like they said , the car you track is the car you are ok leaving in the dump after one crash but if you can afford tracking a 335is , by all means ![]() Last edited by rick100; 12-02-2020 at 11:55 AM.. |
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I seriously wouldn't be surprised if we see the car on here lol |
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12-02-2020, 01:53 PM | #32 | |
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Secondly, the 335 is not solely a luxury car I'm really unclear where you're getting these misguided assumptions. To each their own--I got my n54 car because it makes more torque at any RPM than the m3 and has a lot more potential than the s65. And with the IS's DCT, I've got the same transmission as the M. For a luxury car, one could buy a $100k (msrp) 7 series at the same age and mileage for a similar price to the $50k 3er. Potential issues--lets see, they're virtually identical except one has a motorized moving roof and one does not. If that's not a glaringly obvious potential issue to you I'm not sure what to say. Look up the countless threads of e93 owners having issues with the top. In the same breath you've said that owners can't afford tires and owners wouldn't care about extra upkeep expense--pick one. Anyways, the pricing/used market value definitely differs based on locale. I wouldn't be surprised if convertibles are considered much more of a luxury item and therefore sell for more in Canada vs California. Desirability is a lot more complicated than weight and rigidity; uniqueness and external perception play a large(r?) factor when weighed against technical capabilities. And OP--if you're turning down every bmw with an oil leak you're in for a very long search. Prices are up in the pandemic and if you want a car, be prepared to both pay top dollar and spend a grand+ on maintenance right off the bat. It is what it is right now, market is crazy. |
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