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      01-13-2009, 06:51 PM   #23
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You could buy my coupe conversion kit that I have in storage. You are in LA? It would be super easy to get the parts to you and do the install. Plus, my parts are ALREADY painted Black Sapphire Metallic!!! PM me if you want any specific details. (basically you could do it ~$3k out the door)

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Yeah I am, but I dont have 3k
oh well
time to get a job haha
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Yeah I am, but I dont have 3k
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time to get a job haha

Yeah. Well, conversion of a car is not cheap. Doing mtech kit will cost you $1k for parts and $1k for paint. So this is comparable to doing a kit into your car. The xenons are the most expensive part. They cost about $1k each side from the dealer.

So, it is expensive...but like any major mod (body kits, wheels, suspension upgrades, etc) is going to cost you a couple of grand depending on what you do. It is not like doing reflectors, or tint, or spoilers.
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I'm going to jump the gun on ********s m3 front for my e90! I need the mesh from dealer everything else the same! I 'm just wondering what i need for the two fog lights off my 328I to work? brackets? air ducts? OEM products or fabrication?
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I'm going to jump the gun on ********s m3 front for my e90! I need the mesh from dealer everything else the same! I 'm just wondering what i need for the two fog lights off my 328I to work? brackets? air ducts? OEM products or fabrication?
I was hyped for that kit until I saw that is was just that... a kit and not an easy conversion

Also, magmd, I want that e92 conversion kit so badly... if I only had the money...



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      01-13-2009, 11:32 PM   #27
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I'm going to jump the gun on ********s m3 front for my e90! I need the mesh from dealer everything else the same! I 'm just wondering what i need for the two fog lights off my 328I to work? brackets? air ducts? OEM products or fabrication?
There is no OEM part that will make this work. This is a common problem with all aftermarket parts that do not account for foglights into their design. You cannot just simply attach OEM products, nor fit parts from the dealer into your aftermarket bumper. Mainly, because the dimensions of the fogs is not the same. It will not bolt on. Ideally, the company making this product from scratch would ensure the measurements from the bumper would be exactly like OEM. Kinda like fitting the kidney grilles. To ensure you could just use your stock fogs. However, I guess most companies design the bumper first, based on whatever look they are going for (in this case, it is a M3 rep bumper which does not have stock fogs.) and let you deal with the fog problem.

So, I guess what I am saying is that you will have to buy custom fabricated fogs to fit. I have seen MANY vendors say "we are working on a foglight solution" and all have failed to come up with an adequate replacement. They either look like ass, or give errors.

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Also, magmd, I want that e92 conversion kit so badly... if I only had the money...
if I only had the money
Me too man. This kit is just sitting in storage. I can't believe that nobody on this entire forum has pulled trigger. You cannot beat a 1 of a kind conversion kit, custom made by VORSTEINER, to make any sedan look like a coupe front for that price!!! I don't get it. Someday it will find a good home.
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There is no OEM part that will make this work. This is a common problem with all aftermarket parts that do not account for foglights into their design. You cannot just simply attach OEM products, nor fit parts from the dealer into your aftermarket bumper. Mainly, because the dimensions of the fogs is not the same. It will not bolt on. Ideally, the company making this product from scratch would ensure the measurements from the bumper would be exactly like OEM. Kinda like fitting the kidney grilles. To ensure you could just use your stock fogs. However, I guess most companies design the bumper first, based on whatever look they are going for (in this case, it is a M3 rep bumper which does not have stock fogs.) and let you deal with the fog problem.

So, I guess what I am saying is that you will have to buy custom fabricated fogs to fit. I have seen MANY vendors say "we are working on a foglight solution" and all have failed to come up with an adequate replacement. They either look like ass, or give errors.



Me too man. This kit is just sitting in storage. I can't believe that nobody on this entire forum has pulled trigger. You cannot beat a 1 of a kind conversion kit, custom made by VORSTEINER, to make any sedan look like a coupe front for that price!!! I don't get it. Someday it will find a good home.
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So after i get this m3 front, I know for sure i need to buy the m3 grille piece. Anything i need? Would it fit properly with the other two holes on the left and right ? no brake ducts or anything needed?
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So after i get this m3 front, I know for sure i need to buy the m3 grille piece. Anything i need? Would it fit properly with the other two holes on the left and right ? no brake ducts or anything needed?
Not really sure what you are responding to...which kit are you talking about. M3 kit?

Sorry about the confusion as we discussed M3 conversion and Coupe conversion in this thread...which are indeed different.
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      01-17-2009, 10:23 AM   #31
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so are you saying that the M3 front bumper is not a plug and play for the E90? I mean the one Arqay made and ******** is selling on here. im confused
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so are you saying that the M3 front bumper is not a plug and play for the E90? I mean the one Arqay made and ******** is selling on here. im confused
Let me chime in a little. The front end of the E90 M3 sedan is NOT the same front end of the NON-M E90s. The M3 conversion kit for the E90 from ****** (and Arqay I think) utilizes the NON-M E90 headlights instead of the headlights of the E92s (which is on the E90 M3). So if you wish to just buy the OEM M3 front end, IT WILL NOT FIT your NON-M E90. Hope this clears up a little bit.

The conversion kit that magmd has is the conversion kit for the E90 front end to turn into the E92s front end (does not include the E92 front bumper though). I thought about it A LOT, but the fact is I am jumping onto something else soon this year so..... GL again magmd, that's one sick conversion kit!!!!
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so are you saying that the M3 front bumper is not a plug and play for the E90? I mean the one Arqay made and ******** is selling on here. im confused
Yeah, there seems to be alot of confusion.

1. What I have on my car right now are OEM M3 parts. This does not fit on stock E90 without doing the entire kit, including new xenons. This can only be obtained through BMW. This is by far the most expensive way to go if you buying a kit. E90 conversion is more expensive than e92, because you have to buy new xenons for the E90 to make this work. Mine was done by Longtran.

2. What I am selling is a Coupe conversion kit, which some people confuse for M3 kit. It is not M3, it is E92 front with powerdome hood. It was custom made by Vorsteiner. It is ONE OF A KIND. You cannot purchase this anywhere, except the one I have. It is plug and play onto ANY sedan at this point. All the modifications have been taken into account. All you need other than my kit, is decide which type of front bumper you want (some just want stock, others want Aero lip, and few wanted E92 Mtech). Once you know which you want...then add that to you purchase. Also, you need to have E92 xenons as well--Just like #1. You do not have to worry about sourcing them....I have secured a spare set that will be sold as a seperate sale to the future buyer of this kit. This is the intermediate way to go in cost. It WOULD be the most expensive way to go, if you were going to fabricate this on your own from scratch due to custom pieces that need to be made. But since I am selling this kit used, and you do not have to fabricate anything else at this point...it cuts the cost dramatically. Again, a good portion of the cost is due to having to buy new xenons.

3. What the other vendors are selling currently: M3 replicas for the E90. They look like the E90 M3 front bumper and are SUPPOSED to be plug and play. However, I have never seen one in person, so I do not know anything about fitment. They utilize your current E90 headlights, and E90 front grille parts. So although you kinda look the the E90 M3...you also kinda don't. The real E90 M3 uses the E92 style xenons and E92 style front grille pieces on the bumper only. You currently have E90 style headlights AND you have 2 pieces of front grille--part on the bumper, and part on the hood. These companies make their kits to account for the grille, but they do not account for any foglights (replica of M3, and M3 has no fogs). So be aware that you will need to make a decision about what to do about fogs on your own. Some say these replica pieces are made of high quality plastic, but most are some sort of fiberglass polymer. Read the fine print before making your purchase. Overall, this is by far the cheapest way to go.

But remember...you get what you pay for.

I hope that clears things up.
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For those that are still confused....just stare at he picks for awhile. They explain visually my above comment.

1.OEM M3 conversion. All OEM BMW parts. Full replacement kit.





2.E92 coupe conversion kit. Made by Vorsteiner. One of a kind. Full replacement kit.






3. Replica M3 parts. Front bumper only.




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Thx for clearing it up, ur M3 conversion kit is really more attractive than the E92 conversion. but then again the E92 front E90 will be more rare than anything I am really torn now

Arqray E90 M3Form Bumper


I think this will be the most cost effective option?
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Arqray E90 M3Form Bumper


I think this will be the most cost effective option?
Yes, that is basically option #3 in the examples above. It just has better pics of the part available along with the Euro Xenons. The only issue, Arqray products are not cheap in price (I believe that piece is actually made by 3D/Studie).

Go here...I remember they said MSRP for that bumper is $1680 (unpainted!!) That puts you over $2k with paint for just a bumper. Not the whole kit. Plus, if you are really going for that look, you still have to get the Euro Xenons ($1600). You are better off doing the ****** product (although who knows what quality and fitment will be) if you want to do just the bumper and keep your orange reflector. However, if you are willing to spend $2k for a bumper and $1600 for Euros Xenons, I would say...buy my E92 kit instead.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...8&postcount=48
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      08-24-2010, 02:57 PM   #37
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So in #1 are those the e90 m3 fenders or the e92 m3 fenders?
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      06-14-2011, 05:49 AM   #38
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This is a great thread. Very informative! Say I already was in possession of a hood, bumpers, fenders, and skirts. How much more would you estimate I would have to spend, for an M3 sedan conversion?
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I would also like to learn a little bit more. If you could tell me how much would it cost for my e90 pre facelift front end to be converted into an M3 or just e92 one and share some more details.
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Before 10 days I start my conversion
To m3 ... I must say to you to stick
Parts from e90 m3 they are not them same
With e92-93 hood front wings and rear bumper
Are different
I can provide all the info for the conversion
too M3 look
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