[dgoldenz]

Sold out already supposedly? Everyone's so rich!

[Murf the Surf]

And it's a hybrid so Greta will be AoK with it.

Seriously though, sex on wheels.

[Humdizzle]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

Sold out already supposedly? Everyone's so rich!

or in debt lol

im sure the salesman talked them into how rare it will be. but neglected to mention the 20+ other 'special' versions that will come out in the next 10 years.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by NYG

It's about on par with the SF90.

This is why EV sucks balls. There's no forgiving these weights only adding more power to drive in straight lines like a dork.

Starting from $500,000

[reNT]

Originally Posted by NYG

It's about on par with the SF90.

This is why EV sucks balls. There's no forgiving these weights only adding more power to drive in straight lines like a dork.

but... our cars weigh just as much and only have half the power and don't even have any EV tech. So...

[Wheelwright]

Love those massive, exposed rear wheels. This harkens back to the original Countach, and conveys raw, mechanical power. This is a good design.

[lens]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

9500 redline.... jesus
its going to be a symphony on wheels.

3900 pounds though.

3900lbs ain't shit when it's 1015hp

especially with that battery power, it's gonna have instant power.

[Humdizzle]

Originally Posted by lens

3900lbs ain't shit when it's 1015hp

especially with that battery power, it's gonna have instant power.

thats not going to help with handling or braking. you could make the same statement about a tesla plaid which has the same power and weighs 600 pounds more.

[lens]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

thats not going to help with handling or braking. you could make the same statement about a tesla plaid which has the same power and weighs 600 pounds more.

mid engine, also the Porsche 918 weighs almost the same as ran 6:57 on the nurburgring. So your "handling and braking" is debunked.

[swanson]

I hate to say it because I've always loved Lamborghini's, but I dont like it. The design is ugly and no longer sexy. The hybrid BS is not for me. And to top it all off, the fkn name is terrible.

[Humdizzle]

Originally Posted by reNT

but... our cars weigh just as much and only have half the power and don't even have any EV tech. So...

lambo routinely lies about weight and quotes dry weight. Your g80 is 3900 pounds with all the fluids and a full tank.

aventador svj dry weight stated by lambo = 3400 pounds
actual weight w/fluids = 3900 pounds from motortrend, 3850 by C&D.
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...t-test-review/

revuelto dry weight stated by lambo = 3900
actual weight = ???

real world weight will probably be 4300+ if i had to guess.

[Eternalthinker]

This is the cost of electric motors / batteries. Getting heavier and heavier.

[NYG]

Originally Posted by lens

mid engine, also the Porsche 918 weighs almost the same as ran 6:57 on the nurburgring. So your "handling and braking" is debunked.

Nah, it's physics.

Heavy cars suck. Formula 1 drivers despise their almost 1800lb cars right now and they have psychotic power.

For acceleration, power will overcome but cornering/braking is all compromised heavily. You can still run decent laps by recouping time lost in corners on the straights but it's still dookie.

[chassis]

Solution to weight wrt cornering and braking is bigger rubber and rotors.

[NYG]

Originally Posted by chassis

Solution to weight wrt cornering and braking is bigger rubber and rotors.

Not so much.

There's diminishing returns, additional weight, careful suspension geometry, brake temperatures, etc at play. The consumption of these components is ridiculous too.

For production cars, tires need to advance another 50 years before they're sticky enough in various conditions to carry an M1 Abrams through a corner at high G.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by swanson

I hate to say it because I've always loved Lamborghini's, but I dont like it. The design is ugly and no longer sexy. The hybrid BS is not for me. And to top it all off, the fkn name is terrible.

The design does not live up to being the Aventador successor.

[Flacht3]

The weight penalty is massive. Crazy to think that a 765LT is essentially 1,000lbs lighter with not much of a HP penalty (they are dyno'ing around 780 at the wheels so making close to 900).

My hope is that at some point before petrol engines more or less die off (2030?) we can reach a point where EV tech is substantially lighter and we get a few good years of semi-lightweight hybrids. Maybe just in time for the Reveulto SVJ or whatever they decide to pump out.

McLaren seems to be trying hard to keep the weight down so kudos to them - the Artura is clocking in at only 3400 pounds and that bodes well for whatever the 720 replacement will be.

[RM7]

Hybrid tech doesnt need to be lighter, it can harness energy that would usually be wasted to rocket out of turns at acceleration rates that non-EVs cant match. It cant be obscenely heavy, but hybrid is better than both ICE-only and EV for the accel potential without full EV battery weight.

[NYG]

Originally Posted by Flacht3

The weight penalty is massive. Crazy to think that a 765LT is essentially 1,000lbs lighter with not much of a HP penalty (they are dyno'ing around 780 at the wheels so making close to 900).

My hope is that at some point before petrol engines more or less die off (2030?) we can reach a point where EV tech is substantially lighter and we get a few good years of semi-lightweight hybrids. Maybe just in time for the Reveulto SVJ or whatever they decide to pump out.

McLaren seems to be trying hard to keep the weight down so kudos to them - the Artura is clocking in at only 3400 pounds and that bodes well for whatever the 720 replacement will be.

I think we'll be pleasantly surprised to find that alternative fuel combustion engines will be just as much the future as ev. The government just has their hands too deep into their "investments"

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by swanson

I hate to say it because I've always loved Lamborghini's, but I dont like it. The design is ugly and no longer sexy. The hybrid BS is not for me. And to top it all off, the fkn name is terrible.

Finally, someone who didn't drink the koolaid. Ditto and I always feel the same about others like the Veyron, etc. It's all ego-driven, even if one can afford it, where can one exploit its abilities on the road?