[Game]

You should include a “no issue” option so we get a real idea.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by Game

You should include a “no issue” option so we get a real idea.

I left it out on purpose because once you vote, you can't vote again when it happens. Should not have included the "I don't have the car yet" option either, but alas...

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

My car doesn't have a chipped or cracked windshield.

Man...That utter look of despair hurts my heart.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by MmmmmM2

Man...That utter look of despair hurts my heart.

That's the tow truck driver.

[Albator_IIII]

Originally Posted by aerobod

I don't see any difference between the Saint-Gobain Sekurit windshield that was likely EU produced for our Macan S that has had 2 chip repairs and is now fully cracked from the 3rd chip it received last winter at about 17,000km, and the Saint-Gobain Sekurit one on our M2. Global companies such as Saint-Gobain have global production standards, no different than BMW global products.

We are in Alberta. Land of the cracked windshields. They are averywhere here. I swear rocks fly like it is going out of business. However, I may jink it for myself now, I have been living here since summer 2014, same car and only had 2 chips fixed.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Again, incorrect… my windshield is Sekurit.

If you’re implying Saint-Gobain is using subpar materials/technology to make glass in Mexico (assuming that’s where they’re being made), can we make the same statement about BMW and its use of Mexico as a production location?

Did I specifically mention the M2? No, I said, “automotive glass” which included the entire industry. I lastly said, “primarily.” If you bother to look at BMW NA’s sales figures, you will see what “primarily” entails in North America. It is not M2s, nor M cars in general. Those are not our bread and butter vehicles.

Unfortunately the vast majority of automotive glass is produced in one of two places, China or Mexico.

Porsche is currently having glass issues on 992s. Windshields are cracking on brand new vehicles that have not even been delivered. Their ‘lightweight glass’ is just randomly cracking as well.

FYI, Saint-Gobain is the primary glass supplier to Porsche and they are currently having their fair share of issues with them. Clearly a subpar product is being provided to Porsche, more specifically for 992s, GT3s included.

Edit, Added a photo of the windshield from my 2024 G01 LCI demo.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

Did I specifically mention the M2? No, I said, “automotive glass” which included the entire industry. I lastly said, “primarily.” If you bother to look at BMW NA’s sales figures, you will see what “primarily” entails in North America, it is not M2s, nor M cars in general. Those are not our bread and butter vehicles.

Unfortunately the vast majority of automotive glass is produced in one of two places, China or Mexico.

Porsche is currently having glass issues on 992s. Windshields are cracking on brand new vehicles that have not even been delivered. Their ‘lightweight glass’ is just randomly cracking as well.

FYI, Saint-Gobain is the primary glass supplier to Porsche and they are currently having their fair share of issues with them. Clearly a subpar product is being provided to Porsche, more specifically for 992s, GT3s included.

Edit, Added a photo of the windshield from my 2024 G01 LCI demo.

This is the M2 forum, talking about cracked/chipped windshields for this model.

[Squidget]

I feel this conversation can veer nowhere good nor illuminating to anyone. Maybe not worth having an e-peen war (plus implied racism oof) about windshields.

Bottom line: we don't know shit right now, it's all speculation and anecdotes; small sample sizes and confirmation bias. So I guess believe what you want, because no one can prove yea or nea. Unless there's a rigorously conducted study I don't know about... (If it exists it would probably come out of a property and casualty underwriter research group.)

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by M2siast

This is the M2 forum, talking about cracked/chipped windshields for this model.

You don’t say. I hate to break it to you, but other models, as well as other manufactures, and more specifically Porsche come up an awful effing lot here. Maybe if you had spent more than 1.5-2 months here you would be well aware of that.

[soflacarguy]

Maybe the glass is more fragile because of climate change.

Jk, but I will say I drove tuned/modded VW’s and Audis in my early 20’s like a wreckless idiot often - and absorbed my fair share of highway rocks with zero chips/cracks over 100’s of thousands of miles.

Less than 5k miles of mostly babying my first BMW and boom.

Wtf.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by soflacarguy

Maybe the glass is more fragile because of climate change.

Jk, but I will say I drove tuned/modded VW’s and Audis in my early 20’s like a wreckless idiot often - and absorbed my fair share of highway rocks with zero chips/cracks over 100’s of thousands of miles.

Less than 5k miles of mostly babying my first BMW and boom.

Wtf.

My 135i had 230,000 km on the original glass. Couple chips, but never a crack.

I drove 1,000km in the M2 and the first rock that hits it cracks the thing with a 2 foot long…
Maybe it’s luck, but hence the thread here, as I’m observing a common theme that I have never seen before (in the E90post or 1addicts before this forum).

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

That's the tow truck driver.

HAHAHA! LOL

[Carefree]

Mine was nicked today on Arizona Rt. 101. Small chip on passenger side apparently small stone; road under construction.

Decided to have Penske Glass do chip repair (at residence within 3 hours) in lieu of windshield replacement/insurance claim. $68 out of pocket.

Third incident on BMW windshields in past 4 years.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by Carefree

Mine was nicked today on Arizona Rt. 101. Small chip on passenger side apparently small stone; road under construction.

Decided to have Penske Glass do chip repair (at residence within 3 hours) in lieu of windshield replacement/insurance claim. $68 out of pocket.

Third incident on BMW windshields in past 4 years.

Sorry to hear! Glad it was an easy fix!

Is insurance that includes that stuff way more expensive where you live?

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Sorry to hear! Glad it was an easy fix!

Is insurance that includes that stuff way more expensive where you live?

Spoke to my insurance guy about this prior to repair. Seems rates nationally are expected to increase at much higher levels than anticipated 2024-25. He has clients that can’t be underwritten for various violations/claims.

My premium on both Arizona cars is due in March and I decided not to file a claim at this time, opted for simple repair.

I pay annually so insurer cannot raise my premium after 6 months. Playing the long game.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by Carefree

Spoke to my insurance guy about this prior to repair. Seems rates nationally are expected to increase at much higher levels than anticipated 2024-25. He has clients that can’t be underwritten for various violations/claims.

My premium on both Arizona cars is due in March and I decided not to file a claim at this time, opted for simple repair.

I pay annually so insurer cannot raise my premium after 6 months. Playing the long game.

Gotcha. Interesting situation for sure. One of the downsides of private insurance I guess. It wouldn’t happen around here

[keonigt]

Where is everyone getting their windshields repaired? Do you go to the dealer for that or you can go third party?

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by keonigt

Where is everyone getting their windshields repaired? Do you go to the dealer for that or you can go third party?

The BMW dealer (Penske group) in Scottsdale has a glass division offering repair and strictly OEM products. I decided to stay inside the family. I suspect a reputable third party would have performed similar quality work. YMMV