UPDATE: JB3 1.33 Beta Installed & Tested

Former_Boosted_IS · 03-12-2009, 11:18 AM

What is funny is the Map 5 & 6 have not changed on the 1.3 beta chips yet. Terry has only enabled his new PID boost scheme into maps 3 & 4.

Thanks for stopping by though.

GAaaAR · 03-12-2009, 11:20 AM

If im not mistaken Terry mentioned that he hasn't incorporated lag fix on his 1.3 beta maps yet. So its not a surprise you guys don't notice the low end torque. This is still just beta.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 03-12-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GAaaAR

If im not mistaken Terry mentioned that he hasn't incorporated lag fix on his 1.3 beta maps yet. So its not a surprise you guys don't notice the low end torque. This is still just beta.

+1

Ilma · 03-12-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GAaaAR

If im not mistaken Terry mentioned that he hasn't incorporated lag fix on his 1.3 beta maps yet. So its not a surprise you guys don't notice the low end torque. This is still just beta.

It doesn't make sense to me how one could not notice the difference in low end between the two competing tunes, given the low-end and lag-fix algorithms have yet to be incorporated into the JB beta versions out there.

You might not notice it so much when comparing one version of JB to a subsequent version.

If comparing old JB3 1.22 to newer 1.3 beta, the lagfix feature was strongest on 1.22 map 6. But on other maps, it was more subtle, so there wouldn't be as noticeable a difference without the algorithm.

tomtom · 03-12-2009, 12:34 PM

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Was this on 7G? I suspect the OP is running a different version than you're commenting on.

Mine is on the way from Mike, but I have no idea which beta version it is.
How do you know which chip you have? Is it written on it?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 03-12-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilma

It doesn't make sense to me how one could not notice the difference in low end between the two competing tunes, given the low-end and lag-fix algorithms have yet to be incorporated into the JB beta versions out there.

You might not notice it so much when comparing one version of JB to a subsequent version.

If comparing old JB3 1.22 to newer 1.3 beta, the lagfix feature was strongest on 1.22 map 6. But on other maps, it was more subtle, so there wouldn't be as noticeable a difference without the algorithm.

We're slowly cranking the low end up as we go. FWIW you have beta_7F which had a few bugs. Most are testing 7G now (which has more low end, more stable partial throttle boost, etc), and BMS is working on 8A. OP must be confused as there is no such thing as 1.33 so I'm not sure what version he is running to be honest. Probably 7G from his description!

Mike

DELTA BMW · 03-12-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Why are you letting the cat out of the bag

LOL

Mike

That is the day I am going to upgrade. Mike and Terry better put me on the beta list for this!!!!!!!!

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 03-12-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tomtom

Mine is on the way from Mike, but I have no idea which beta version it is.
How do you know which chip you have? Is it written on it?

You are getting 7G

Mike

tomtom · 03-12-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

You are getting 7G

Mike

Mike, great thanks for getting back to me. You are probably swamped with emails.

ssabripo · 03-12-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Map for map, that's a fair comparison. And yep, there is a fairly obvious reason why the JB3 will not be able to emulate the PROcede this time around.

Shiv

Xander · 03-12-2009, 02:01 PM

Sounds like another step in the right direction.

X...

A418t81 · 03-12-2009, 02:17 PM

The F revision does have more down low, around the 2k region. I'm not talking about the "lag fix" BS that people somehow equate with increased responsiveness, I'm talking about more once you put your foot off in it down low.

FotiosF90M5 · 03-12-2009, 02:26 PM

some interesting things happening at bms

nlakind · 03-12-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

We're slowly cranking the low end up as we go. FWIW you have beta_7F which had a few bugs. Most are testing 7G now (which has more low end, more stable partial throttle boost, etc), and BMS is working on 8A. OP must be confused as there is no such thing as 1.33 so I'm not sure what version he is running to be honest. Probably 7G from his description!

Mike

+1, sorry for any confusion. it is the 7G..i wasn't sure as to the name!!

Ilma · 03-12-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by A418t81

The F revision does have more down low, around the 2k region. I'm not talking about the "lag fix" BS that people somehow equate with increased responsiveness, I'm talking about more once you put your foot off in it down low.

The lag-fix on 1.22 map#6 was not BS by any means.

It was definitely there and provided a lot more response....even Terry verified that map 6 had the strongest amount of lag-fix of all the maps.

I thought it was a wonderful improvement over 1.1

But I guess you are referring to WOT not partial throttle.

Lotus99 · 03-12-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nlakind

i have driven the newest version of the PROcede which is what I'm comparing the JB too. if you'd done a little searching you'd see that in my 1st write up on the 1.2 that i linked in this thread, i made this comment:

"My conclusion:
I am truly happy with the JB3 1.2 & would recommend this to anybody looking for an upgrade from stock. This is not to say that the Procede isn’t a great upgrade as well, because it is, I’ve driven the newest mapped Procede & it feels just as gratifying but for me, in terms of bang for your buck, I don’t see any other way to go! It’s like spending $20 for a Kobe beef burger when you can go to Fat Burger & pay $5 for basically the same thing..It all comes out the same in the end"

But in the last 4 months, a ton has changed with the Procede, so your comparison isn't really super relevant IMO.

M_M · 03-13-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

What is funny is the Map 5 & 6 have not changed on the 1.3 beta chips yet. Terry has only enabled his new PID boost scheme into maps 3 & 4.

Thanks for stopping by though.

wrong.

M_M · 03-13-2009, 12:09 AM

I think lagfix is good for those who have post 29.2, for pre 29.2 guys like me, the difference is subtle.

5soko · 03-13-2009, 01:01 AM

I need 1.3 right away!

nlakind · 03-13-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus99

But in the last 4 months, a ton has changed with the Procede, so your comparison isn't really super relevant IMO.

a very good friend of mine(who has the PROcede) lives about 4 blocks from me, i've driven the newest maps..

& please don't get me wrong, again, i'm not hating on the PROcede AT ALL! i think it's a fucking fantastic tune, but i prefer the JB..

OpenFlash · 03-13-2009, 12:58 PM

I don't mean to question your integrity but shouldn't you disclose that BMS gave you the JB3 for free? I'd prefer that too

lpphreakx06 · 03-13-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ssabripo

my nga

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Former_Boosted_IS Major General 330 Rep 5,175 Posts Drives: 4 Wheels Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Planet Earth! iTrader: (15)	What is funny is the Map 5 & 6 have not changed on the 1.3 beta chips yet. Terry has only enabled his new PID boost scheme into maps 3 & 4. Thanks for stopping by though.
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GAaaAR Captain 35 Rep 671 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 335i Join Date: May 2006 Location: NYC iTrader: (1)	If im not mistaken Terry mentioned that he hasn't incorporated lag fix on his 1.3 beta maps yet. So its not a surprise you guys don't notice the low end torque. This is still just beta.
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