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      03-28-2009, 10:25 PM   #23
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Nice ride Jonmartin. How much lower do dyno dynamics usually rate compared to dynojets?

edit: n/m read the part about the m6. interesting
Read the first post for a few ideas.

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hehe I ran a Modded B5 S4 Tuned by Wicked Motorsports last night. I beat him. . His car makes around 380awhp 450wtq on a Dyno dynamics dyno.
I'm sorry, did I miss something here. Your 351 whp / 251 wtq car beat his 380 whp / 450 wtq car?? Unless his car is at least 800 lbs (which I don't think is the case) heavier than your car, he would put 5 car lengths on you from a standing start.

Unless your car defy the laws of physics your number don't jive.
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I'm sorry, did I miss something here. Your 351 whp / 251 wtq car beat his 380 whp / 450 wtq car?? Unless his car is at least 800 lbs (which I don't think is the case) heavier than your car, he would put 5 car lengths on you from a standing start.

Unless your car defy the laws of physics your number don't jive.
Well it happened so deal with it. He did. Besides we did rolls 40-130 Tourqe didn't do enough for him.

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Nope my baseline is 310whp on a Dyno Dynamics machine. 335 owners go to dynojets so the numbers aren't compareable.



I think It would take Terry or Shiv on 100oct to beat me with my "measly" numbers. Go on that dyno I'm sure you won't be anywhere near 400whp in fact I guarantee it. To put it in perspective a modded M6 will make 416-420whp on the dyno I put those numbers on. Thats a ~550 crank hp car do the math.

Here's an M3 with no Tune. Vs 335 AT with Procede V3 and Downpipes BTW I've beat that DCT Coupe M3 in the vid.
I actually did run my car on a dyno dynamics dyno on V1 Procede and ran a 321WHP. I believe my dyno sheet is posted on here on this site somewhere. It is possible to be higher if your car has more mods as mine only had V1.47 with a drop in filter and race fuel. My .02cents
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I actually did run my car on a dyno dynamics dyno on V1 Procede and ran a 321WHP. I believe my dyno sheet is posted on here on this site somewhere. It is possible to be higher if your car has more mods as mine only had V1.47 with a drop in filter and race fuel. My .02cents
Keyword: Race fuel....
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Keyword: Race fuel....
Being an auto enthusiast like yourself, why are you saying race fuel like it's an Achilles heel? It's a modification, just like your tune, my tune, your exhaust, my exhaust. I don't get your "beef" with race fuel. I'd expect that from a magazine racer. A win is a win.
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Keyword: Race fuel....
Dude, no disrepect man.. I like the M3's. I hear Drew's car is kickin ass down south as well! I don't think V1.47 with a mixture or race 104 and 94oct would have made that big a difference but i could be wrong. Either way, your M3 sounds like it's kicking ass! Have you had a chance to run Drew? How about Sticky?
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Being an auto enthusiast like yourself, why are you saying race fuel like it's an Achilles heel? It's a modification, just like your tune, my tune, your exhaust, my exhaust. I don't get your "beef" with race fuel. I'd expect that from a magazine racer. A win is a win.
I have beef? where did I say that ! LOL I need a link ASAP. Bottom line is if I put in race fuel then I'd probably be at 370whp on that dyno instead of 351whp. Your numbers came higher because its on race fuel simple.
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I have beef? where did I say that ! LOL I need a link ASAP. Bottom line is if I put in race fuel then I'd probably be at 370whp on that dyno instead of 351whp. Your numbers came higher because its on race fuel simple.
Well when you're racing, you should. Don't talk down to someone because you didn't level the playing field.

That's like me saying, "Well yeah that M3 beat me. He had a Stage 1 tune... If he didn't I totally would have won."

You didnt flat out say, "I have a problem with race fuel." But you've brought it up a few times now, and I took it in a negative way. could be mistaken though
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Dude, no disrepect man.. I like the M3's. I hear Drew's car is kickin ass down south as well! I don't think V1.47 with a mixture or race 104 and 94oct would have made that big a difference but i could be wrong. Either way, your M3 sounds like it's kicking ass! Have you had a chance to run Drew? How about Sticky?
I beat Drew before I had any thing done to my car other then a pre cat delete. Sticky I have not run yet we're organizing a run possibly soon against some more cars tonight.
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Well when you're racing, you should. Don't talk down to someone because you didn't level the playing field.

That's like me saying, "Well yeah that M3 beat me. He had a Stage 1 tune... If he didn't I totally would have won."

You didnt flat out say, "I have a problem with race fuel." But you've brought it up a few times now, and I took it in a negative way. could be mistaken though
I love race fuel u took it in the wrong way. I run race fuel if its worth it, on an M3 it makes 20whp so I sure don't have anything against it.
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So Wicked Motor Sports in Van Nuys (SoCal) has a red stage 3 B5 S4 and wants to see if anyone is down to do some runs? Doesnt matter what car just seeing if anyone is down...
I wouldn't run that WMS Red S4, it wouldn't even be fun Bro, not sure why they are wanting to run 335I's, he should be running big HP, P-cars, etc. Here's a vid of him against a SC'd B7 S4,



Here's that same SC'd B7 S4 against a B5 K04'd stage 3 S4 on pump fuel.




Also here's a vid of my E92 DCT M3 with 91/100 mix, afe filter, before the x pipe and pulley, 1900 miles on the od, against a B5 Stage 3 S4, that ran 3.5 FATS on 91, which is pretty fast. The next day on 91 and the filter Jon did slightly pull on my car, although I wasn't driving. Regardless it seems the DCT is faster head to head so his car even untuned was moving good. He's making at least 30 more WHP now then it was then, mine probably 20 or so.



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I think that first link is messed up



I feel bad for whatever 335 runs that S4. The Audi guy wouldn't even get a ticket for street racing he'll go to jail for Rape....
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hah, looks like they're looking for a quick ego boost.
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hah, looks like they're looking for a quick ego boost.
rofl!

We may do some runs tonight Bro, if you're down, PM me.
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i wish i could be there dude! If only i wasnt so far. be safe out there
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i wish i could be there dude! If only i wasnt so far. be safe out there
Agreed you're too far away! Always safe Brotha.
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ok Drew .... you and me on race fuel next time ....lol...
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dude you guys gotta believe jonmartin. hes had two 335s, one which was pretty badass and modded. he knows his shit if you ask me. plus his M3 is no joke and far from stock.

btw, this is nico jon
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dude you guys gotta believe jonmartin. hes had two 335s, one which was pretty badass and modded. he knows his shit if you ask me. plus his M3 is no joke and far from stock.

btw, this is nico jon
Oh hey what up man long time no see. How are you? how's your ride!
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hehe I ran a Modded B5 S4 Tuned by Wicked Motorsports last night. I beat him. I'm still waiting for him to post the vids to see by how much. He had K04's and whatever else those stage 3's have. Either way it was a good run. Rematch soon after I get my car retuned properly (I'm running rich @12.2 AFR) and get my exhaust installed. If your 335 has less then 500hp I'd suggest not trying guys just a thought.. His car makes around 380awhp 450wtq on a Dyno dynamics dyno.

Thread here from his POV.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273543
Beat ? from all the runs you did with Kevin you only beat him when he had a 250lbs pass in the car. His car didn't have a wickedmotorsports tune when you guys did the pulls. He does have our stg3 ASP/WMS tune as of today.I think he'll give you a good run : )

You guys have a great time and be safe !

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I wouldn't run that WMS Red S4, it wouldn't even be fun Bro, not sure why they are wanting to run 335I's, he should be running big HP, P-cars, etc. Here's a vid of him against a SC'd B7 S4,



Here's that same SC'd B7 S4 against a B5 K04'd stage 3 S4 on pump fuel.




Also here's a vid of my E92 DCT M3 with 91/100 mix, afe filter, before the x pipe and pulley, 1900 miles on the od, against a B5 Stage 3 S4, that ran 3.5 FATS on 91, which is pretty fast. The next day on 91 and the filter Jon did slightly pull on my car, although I wasn't driving. Regardless it seems the DCT is faster head to head so his car even untuned was moving good. He's making at least 30 more WHP now then it was then, mine probably 20 or so.




Thanks for the co*k block Drew : ) how are you man ?

My S4 is setup to race from a dig, I have pulled on GT700 P-cars and modded C6 Zo6s. I like to do my runs from a dig which some don't.

anyway... be safe man.
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